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While we're at it with BoC. I can't decide.

Leee (Leee), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 19:17 (twenty-three years ago)

777, the only song that makes me feel like I am in a pinball machine.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 19:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Eutow

its a great oldskool acidy track and the title reminds me of Bousch in Return Of The Jedi

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 19:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Piezo

Siegbran (eofor), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 19:27 (twenty-three years ago)

cipater. (or garbage or vletr or goz quarter or....)

fletrejet, Tuesday, 4 February 2003 19:35 (twenty-three years ago)

vose in

gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 19:50 (twenty-three years ago)

"windwind"

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 19:56 (twenty-three years ago)

hub/eutow (or just about anything else from "tri repetae")

your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 20:02 (twenty-three years ago)

I've decided on cichli (today).

Leee (Leee), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 20:24 (twenty-three years ago)

zorgluz. or, maybe eougfsl

brains (cerybut), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 20:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Gelk from Peel Sessions 2 probably. Or Blifil.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 21:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Now, did you guys remember all those titles off the top of your head, or did you have to go look at your cd cases? :-)

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 21:53 (twenty-three years ago)

garbagemx36...also their longest i think

Elliot, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 04:57 (twenty-three years ago)

srtst45g5trh76ri7

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 05:26 (twenty-three years ago)


vose in or cipater. can't decide.

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 05:31 (twenty-three years ago)

srtst45g5trh76ri7

Spot on, Jim! Although I tend to prefer "Uck Wa" of a wednesday.

Charlie (Charlie), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 05:33 (twenty-three years ago)

FOIL.

Cipater + Rettic AC v nice too.

jot eff pe, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 07:24 (twenty-three years ago)

(It just occurred to me that his thread must look like pure Dada to anyone not acquainted with Autechre.)

jot eff pe, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 07:25 (twenty-three years ago)

wot? No Arch Carrier?!!! A pox on you all!

dog latin, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 11:46 (twenty-three years ago)

can't decide between "clipper" and "piezo"

Omar (Omar), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 12:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i get the impression that autechre have some kind of random syllable name-generating machine.

anyway, off the top of my head, "dael", track 1 on tri repetae, the lp no-one seems to like.

andy

koogs, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 12:42 (twenty-three years ago)

garbage

robin (robin), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 13:13 (twenty-three years ago)

>i get the impression that autechre have some kind of random syllable name-generating machine.

At least some of their nonsense names have meanings. For example, "cipater" comes from "anticipate". They felt that the track was somehow unpredictable so that you couldn't anticipate what it was going to do. So the opposite of "anti-cipate" is "cipate". A track that you can't anticipate is a "cipater". Ha!

fletrejet, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 13:58 (twenty-three years ago)

tri repetae, the lp no-one seems to like.

Plenty of ae fans sub-Level 2 rate it.

Leee (Leee), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 20:06 (twenty-three years ago)

My fave is probably "Rae". It's much better than "fdasfksla;fjeqoippfdls;am.111111111".

original bgm, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 21:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Rettic AC

due to totally not reading anything thoroughly when it's in a funny digital font, i used to think this was "rettil (t)ac", i.e. "cat litter" backwards. which is kind of what it sounds like.

your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 6 February 2003 02:36 (twenty-three years ago)

three years pass...
I've been listening to EP7.2 a lot recently - it may be one of, if not THE best thing they've done. Pir is beautiful, Zeiss Contarex is terrifying, Maphive6.1 is like a warfield it's great and it's got lotsa hiphop falva too!

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 26 June 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

I always felt EP7 was underrated

Pir is great

CDDB (Dan Deluca), Monday, 26 June 2006 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

It was between Rae and Chatter (from Artificial Intelligence 2) for me, but I just relistened to them both and Rae wins it by miles.

JimD (JimD), Monday, 26 June 2006 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

Bronchusevenmx 24

jed_ (jed), Monday, 26 June 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

rsdio.

do people really not like tri repetae? it's not just my favourite autechre album but my favourite album ever, I think.

permanent revolution (cis), Monday, 26 June 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

I've never gotten the impression that Tri Repetae was/is generally disliked

CDDB (Dan Deluca), Monday, 26 June 2006 23:48 (nineteen years ago)

Tri Repetae is an incredible album. Almost certainly one of my top 10 ever.

In fact - this thread has reminded me how good everything up to and including EP7 was. It's such as shame they've descended into self-parody since then.

jng (jng), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 07:08 (nineteen years ago)

i think tri repetae's my favorite autechre disc as well.

latebloomer aka rap's yoko ono (latebloomer), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 07:19 (nineteen years ago)

jng otm.

tri repetae is generally recognised as one of their best but for me it's merely a necessary chapter in the autechre story. it's a very dark, biomechanical record but to me a lot of the tracks work as mood pieces rather than standouts. I love Leterel and Eutow and the understated Overand, but I found that the rest depend on repetitive grinding beats and shadowy textures. It's a lot more like their recent work in some ways, whereas other releases (particularly Amber and LP5) seemed to deal with specific concepts and ideas - each track showcases a feature (like the speed-up/slow-down on Fold4,Wrap5 for instance). Tri Repetae is more about creating a setting and a mood. Does that make sense?

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 07:44 (nineteen years ago)

It's definitely the most cohesive and coherent of their albums - well it and Amber; I always felt those were the two closest albums in their canon, like they took the template they had for Amber and made it darker, harder, more intense.

Picking only one is a tough call but if there's one track that gets in my head more than any other it's Gelk off Peel Session 2.

ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 07:52 (nineteen years ago)

See, Amber sounds very different to Tri Repetae for me. Maybe it's the album covers that influence this idea but Tri is the sound of mechanoids sending radio signals to each other from a living breathing space station. Amber is a much more earthbound recording and reminds me of nature, twilight, rockpools, small animals and magic. It's by far the airiest of all their albums and is probably the only one that takes space into account rather than filling every moment with a new noise.

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 08:03 (nineteen years ago)

ledge wasn't saying that they sound the same, just that they are both more cohesive than the other albums.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 08:11 (nineteen years ago)

fwiw tri repetae is my favourite ae album followed by lp5 and amber. i wonder if they will ever release another album that sounds good to my ears. i doubt it.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 08:16 (nineteen years ago)

nature, twilight, rockpools, small animals and magic

Hmm, I don't think I've ever had such a naturalistic response to ae, they've always been about the cold, hard machines for me! Well, cold hard, and sad machines. Robots who can cry.

ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 08:22 (nineteen years ago)

Well, there's something about tracks like Piezo which sounds like wolves baying at the moon to me.

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 08:24 (nineteen years ago)

the cold, atmospheric precision is what i love about Tri Repetae. it reminds me of gears in an impersonal celestial machine running in perfect harmony.

latebloomer aka rap's yoko ono (latebloomer), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 09:00 (nineteen years ago)

gears in an impersonal celestial machine running in perfect harmony.

yes, this exactly is why I love it - the way that it surrounds you, intricate and kind of hypnotic, but also free of emotion, delicate and calming. I think that's why it's my favourite record? because no matter what I can put it on and be lost in it and yet not made to feel anything.

permanent revolution (cis), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 10:11 (nineteen years ago)

gears in an impersonal celestial machine running in perfect harmony.

This is exactly how I'd have described the last Plaid LP (Spokes, not the new one that I haven't heard because of no moneys). I'd also maintain that LP5 is sort of this.

Incunabula - Your typical sci-fi aliens exploring space
Amber - Aliens touch down in an isolated desert and mess shit up.
Tri Repetae - They send their findings back to the spacecraft
Chiastic Slide - Alien leaders hear word of things going on on Earth but there's a lot of crap going on over there.
LP5 - Essential maintenance and alien army going to war
EP7 - the epic battle that ensues between aliens and earthlings
Confield - Recolonising the Earth

and everything after is the aliens going about their daily business.

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 10:23 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, that's a totally different narrative than the one I would come up with. Regardless, I think it illustrates an important point about why I (and many others I suspect) enjoy Autechre. Their works have a very strong sense of place - each one seems to conjure up an imaginary world. The progression of the works constructs a narrative moving between these worlds and showing how they evolve. They remind me a lot of Olaf Stapledon in that respect. Also - psychogeography and the dérive (although I fear I'd quickly be out of my depth if I pursued that angle).

jng (jng), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 10:35 (nineteen years ago)

listening to Tri Repetae now - it's their most granular album - maybe their most sonically untidy in a way. You don't see that much grit on the following albums, at least not until much later.

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

also, apart from a couple of exceptions such as leterel and eutow, the melodies on Tri Repetae are pushed very far back in the mix. I find it quite a moody textured record.

What do people think of Chiastic Slide? To be brutal, I think it's only real standout track is "Cichli" (and what a track it is) whereas the rest seem to burble along quite boringly. Lots of people hate "Hub" but for me I find it quite interesting and quite a big leap forward in their sound. "Nuane" isn't too bad either. I have always enjoyed Autechre's melodic side more than anything else - I guess that's why LP5 is such a stunner for me.

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

aside 1. cichli should be pronounced "sickly". the e.p. cichlisuite therefore being pron. "sickly sweet".

aside 2."Flutter" is the last track on the new For Tet DJ Kicks CD. when i heard the mix last week i realised i had been listening to "Flutter" at the wrong speed for over 10 years (its pressed at 45, i listen to it at 33) the same thing happened to me when i heard the anvil vapre EP on CD for the first time.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

You were listening to Anvil Vapre pitched down then? I imagine that would work pretty well!

jng (jng), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

yeah i always listened to it at 33. now i can't listen to it any other way!

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

I love the first three tracks off Chiastic, the way they slide into each other, illustrating the mercurial properties of the crossfader indeed (that's their explanation for the album title). And Cichli is indeed awesome, but I've never really found anything of interest beyond it.

Why didn't I bring my ipod in today? I want to hear all of this stuff right now!

ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:12 (nineteen years ago)

Actually yeh, I like Rettic AC (even though it's only a noisy filler, it's quite nice) and Tewe (which reminds me of Late-90s R'n'B and Garage).

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

did we ever work out what there was about "chiastic slide" that denoted the fact that it was the 4th album? did we ever find the 8 in "untilted"?

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

There's a garage feel to quite a bit of ae from that era. I always thought Tilapia from Cichlisuite was quite 2Step.

xpost

jng (jng), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:23 (nineteen years ago)

xpost, or the 6 in Confield? Or indeed the 1 in Incunabula? I don't give much weight to this particular conspiracy theory!

ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

1 - incunabula - the first edition of a text IIRC
2 - amber - the second light on a traffic signal system
3 - tri repetae - repeat thrice
4 - chiastic slide - chiastic (or chiasmic - chiastic isn't in the dictionaey) refers to the sign of a cross which has four points.
5 - LP5 - well duh!
6 - Confield - Not too sure
7 - Draft7.30 - 7
8 - Untilted - well there are 8 letters in the title.

I once wrote a big list of autechre titles and supposed interpretations a while ago - maybe it was on ILM?

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

Incunabla are just any early books, from the first printing presses.

Anyone have any Gescom faves? Keynell 4 is incredible, only a limited number of elements at work but the way they drop in and out, the pacing and layering, is just perfect. I'm reasonably convinced it's solely an ae production.

ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

yes def. i think it was on the same thread where we compared the photos of falling water and brooklyn bridge to the lp sleeves.


gescom OOP = "Gosheep"

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

I remember that thread - I never figured out the Brooklyn Bridge connection, but I don't think the correct photo was posted.

ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

Mmm, Chiastic Slide has many uk garage and post garage type sounds on it...

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

anyone else rate that gescom rmx of push button objects "non-existant"?

Lukas (lukas), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

yes, me - it's excellent.

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

untilted = straight = str8

the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

chiastic = the word you are looking for is "chiasmus". it means where two paths cross, ie 4 directions.

the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

CONFIELD = LOOK AT THE FIRST TRACK, YOU ROMANS.

See? LP4 once again underrated.

Of right now, "Flutter" = my POO.

c(''c) (Leee), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

AND "CALBRUC" COMES AFTER "CICHLI" AND IS ALL AWESOME AND STUFF TOO.

c(''c) (Leee), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

dropp

held tony (held tony), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah Calbruc's not bad. All the ones after that though, they just go on a bit long and don't develop enough. Cipater is the one I was thinking of with the excellent crossfading - between 3 and 4 minutes, where one track fades out and a whole other track fades in - beautiful.

Also:
Zeiss Contarex is terrifying

Netlon Sentinel is terrifying! Zeiss Contarex is kinda sinister maybe...

ledge (ledge), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 09:02 (nineteen years ago)

okay, the beginning of Zeiss Contarex is terrifying.

The last four tracks on EP7 are the best things they've done I reckon.

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 09:27 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

no love for bike? i don't believe it. just listened to 777 which was mentioned at the beginning of the thread. it is total bullshit. robot music. in comparison bike is alice in wonderland.

alex in mainhattan, Monday, 29 June 2009 19:04 (sixteen years ago)

garbage

Matt P, Monday, 29 June 2009 19:06 (sixteen years ago)

i don't understand any answer that isn't 'garbage' tbf

Matt P, Monday, 29 June 2009 19:06 (sixteen years ago)

ARCH CARRIER

Turangalila, Monday, 29 June 2009 21:52 (sixteen years ago)


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