Spiritualized - Underrated and Underappreciated

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I would say Spiritualized are more classic than dud...on 'Pure Phase' and 'Ladies and Gentleman we are Floating in Space' I think they peaked but their fusion of Krautrock, Free-Jazz, Contemporary Classical and straight ahead rock n' roll always does it for me..

Maimonides (Maimonides), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 15:08 (twenty-three years ago)

i dont see any Spz hate anywhere

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 15:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Lots of differing and strong opinions on here with regards to Jason Pierce, but I think a rough hands-up count would come out favourably. Love LGM and L&G, love bits of PP, but after a strong initial reaction to LICD my affection for it has faded.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 15:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Kate to thread, of course.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 15:47 (twenty-three years ago)

They're in such close alphabetic proximity in the racks to these very very closely related OTHER two acts I like so much more (Spacemen 3 and Spectrum, in the most serendipitous CD-rack Connection ever), so maybe I'm guilty of underappreciation. I don't know, I think I appreciate them JUST the right amount! The title of this thread makes it sound like they're fronted by Al Bundy and Rodney Dangerfield or something!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:46 (twenty-three years ago)

A guy used to come in the pub I used to work in who looked just like Rodney Dangerfield, it was weird.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:54 (twenty-three years ago)

I sorta agree. _LGM_ is stone classic, as is Jason's side of _Recurring_ (bascially the first incarnation of Spiritualized). _Fucked Up Inside_ is a great live document (though i could do without the version of "Electric Mainline" that the album is saddled with). All the singles released between the first two LPs are also totally grebt ("Medication", "Good Times/Lay Back in the Sun) and better than the versions that made it onto _Pure Phase_.

I used to herald _Pure Phase_ as the sign of my waning interest in them, but on a whim i played it last week, and while better than i remembered, it's nowhere near as good as _LGM_. The later albums have left me cold, but i'm a minority in that camp. I'm always curious to hear what he's up to, but unless there's a major stripping-down going on in the next incarnation of the band, i don't hold out much hope for his new work captivating me.

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 18:01 (twenty-three years ago)

lazer guided melodies = beautiful
pure phase = my brother has it, i've only listened to it once, no strong opinions

LAGWAFIS / LICD = the difference between epic arrangements because THAT IS WHAT THE SONGS DEMAND and epic arrangements for the sake of it. (Ladies and Gents being the good record). Also the difference between well-constructed epic arrangements that show lightness of touch / farfing loads of instruments onto the record with no care or thought.

Spiritualized's good records are good on their own, but grate when played together because of Pierce's irritatingly one-dimensional god-love-drugs lyrical schtick (which had, like the music, gone into bloated self-parody by LICD).

on the whole, they're closer to being overrated than underrated, but they're still v.good...

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 18:12 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't think anyone here underrateds them or underappreciates them other then maybe Kate's Dead Husband who has his own reasons.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 18:46 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't believe that anyone here is going to argue over the merits of Lazer Guided Melodies (only the greatest album of the 1990s) which is about as Classic as any album can get. Too bad Jason alienated the band back then, because subsequent line ups just couldn't compare (the live stuff on the Let It Flow b-sides are just amazing). Pure Phase is basically an inferior remix album and the Jump The Shark moment came with the Royal Albert Hall album by which point Spiritualized had transmogrified into a latter day Pink Floyd.

I'm still holding out for the next album, and I do like "Out Of Sight" by itself as a piece of Bob Ezrin-esque bombast.

Chris Barrus (xibalba), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:59 (twenty-three years ago)

killian is otm about the difference between the last two
i don't listen to pure phase a lot,but i really like it when i do stick it on...good headphones music

robin (robin), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Could Spiritualized have been any batter live than they were for their last tour after the release of LICD? Some of the songs on that album were some of the best performed live.

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Er, yeah. They were better live back in 1995.

Chris Barrus (xibalba), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 23:22 (twenty-three years ago)

this thread title made me piss my pants with laughter. for fucks sake.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 23:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Sad thing is the first time I heard they were better before was in 97.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 00:13 (twenty-three years ago)

The last album absolutely stank, though. Really awful.

russ t, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 11:22 (twenty-three years ago)

see russ, we do agree sometimes ;-)

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 11:23 (twenty-three years ago)

I like the last album, except possibly On Fire, which was awful.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 11:49 (twenty-three years ago)

The last album kinda grew on...reminds me of a white Christmas for some bizarre reason..gotta be those strings. I still put it behind Ladies and Gentlemen and Pure Phase for song quality tho'...

Maimonides (Maimonides), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 12:19 (twenty-three years ago)

The only thing underrated or underappreciated about SPZ is perhaps Pure Phase, which is a maligned and misunderstood masterpiece. (Yes, I'm looking at you Barrus!) But for the past two albums, I really have been wishing that they would just go away.

I'm pretty sure Jason walked by me on Clerkenwell Rd the other day. I tried very hard not to stare as he had kind of a rabbit in the headlights expression when he noticed me staring.

kate, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 15:15 (twenty-three years ago)

I would agree with you about Pure Phase Kate, that was the album that got me into Spiritualized in the first place. I think it works better as a whole than the following two albums..lyrically and sonically.

Maimonides (Maimonides), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 15:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Pure Phase would have made a great EP if Jason had decided leave off the inferior remakes. The "Good Times" remake especially doesn't have the punch, and the "Medication" re-do is just superfluous.

Chris Barrus (xibalba), Thursday, 13 March 2003 01:22 (twenty-three years ago)

I only ever put on Lazer Guided Melodies and that 'F*cked Up Inside' live disc which is actually my favorite release of theirs. Oh and the "Anyway That You Want Me" single...

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 13 March 2003 01:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Aren't those rarities discs due soon? And will I actually get them when I have all the mp3s?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 March 2003 03:32 (twenty-three years ago)

i really enjoyed them when i saw them opening for radiohead around the release of LGWAFIS, but the album itself left me cold.

Dave M. (rotten03), Thursday, 13 March 2003 03:44 (twenty-three years ago)

set it on fire, it'll improve the record and you'll get your much needed warmth

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 13 March 2003 03:46 (twenty-three years ago)

And will I actually get them when I have all the mp3s?

It's due out now I believe. Hell, I've got all the original releases and I'll probably get it.

Chris Barrus (xibalba), Thursday, 13 March 2003 05:23 (twenty-three years ago)

nine years pass...

LAZER GUIDED MELODIES

It is constructed as the ultimate classic vinyl listening experience:
4 color-coded cross-faded suites
Red = Love
Green = Nature
Blue = The Blues
Black = The Void

Some bands are at their apex in their debut and this album stands out from their later works because it doesn't contain the same superfluous excess. It has a sonic clarity and purity of vision which is absent from subsequent sessions. It is more ethereal and flows the best.

It is an audiophile's dream and perhaps the best produced album of all time.

Graveyard Poet, Monday, 25 February 2013 10:35 (thirteen years ago)

While LGM is my favorite Spiritualized album, my favorite song from Jason Pierce is the thirteen transcendental minutes of "Feel So Sad".

It is the shining moment of the Spaceman's career.

Graveyard Poet, Monday, 25 February 2013 10:36 (thirteen years ago)

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hey, corsano's no pussy, dude (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Monday, 25 February 2013 10:39 (thirteen years ago)

Ladies and gentlemen, Graveyard Poet.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 February 2013 10:44 (thirteen years ago)

ppl who are bigger fans of this band than me: plz help me locate a song by either Spiritualized (very early) or Spacemen 3 (quite late)—it was a cover, possibly released as a single w/ a video involving ~psychedelic imagery~, short and poppy (bout 4 minutes?)... wish I had more to go on but then I probably woulda found it myself by now!

fiscal cliff racer (bernard snowy), Monday, 25 February 2013 12:09 (thirteen years ago)

Anyway That You Want Me - The Troggs cover?

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Monday, 25 February 2013 12:27 (thirteen years ago)

haha yes that's totally it! thanks!!

fiscal cliff racer (bernard snowy), Monday, 25 February 2013 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

thats a bloody sick cover

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Monday, 25 February 2013 12:37 (thirteen years ago)

It is awesome, but it's about 7 minutes long, iirc...

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 February 2013 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

dear Graveyard Poet or other fans of LGM, can you answer this question for me?

so on the US 1996 reissue of this CD, the one that only has four tracks, the version of "Angel Sigh" is altered as follows:

Track 4 is approximately 1 minute longer than the UK 4 track release. However, this is not due to a different version of one of the tracks; approximately 1 minute into Angel Sigh the song restarts and then plays the track all the way through.

Was this intentional? It seems like it could just be a mistake that got left in - anybody know? I am splitting up the tracks on my CD of this and feel like I should edit it properly if it's a mistake.

sleeve, Monday, 25 February 2013 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.headheritage.co.uk/unsung/review/2247/

ent of the Spaceman's career. Over the course of its thirteen transcendental minutes, Jason Pierce moves the listener from the dark depths of sorrow and suffering to the spiritual heights of a sublime bliss-out. The effect verges upon a near-death experience.

A disembodied voice, drifting in the void, mournfully intones a blues-gospel lament in the chambers of cathedral reverb:

"Sweet Lord I know
I hate this lonely life so
Lord I know
Time goes slow
I feel so alone
Sweet Lord
Sweet Lord is this my fate
To live my life in this state
Lord I pray
I long for a change
But it still remains
Sweet Lord
Sweet Lord it's a sin
To live this life suffering
I feel so sad
Sweet Lord"

The pain is healed by the floating tones of a Farfisa organ and soothing woodwinds. A flute solo delicately enters like a soft spring or summer breeze. A bright and golden brass section floods down glowing sunlight through the gray and stormy clouds. The clouds part as the soaring strings lift the listener. The blues-gospel prayer is repeated once more which is then followed by an even more triumphant ascension as distant percussion announces the music of the spheres. The keyboards, woodwinds, brass, and strings now send the listener past shimmering stars, spinning planets, spiral galaxies, and supernovas. The voyage quietly returns to the realm of the nebula, of the womb.

"Feel So Sad" is one of the greatest songs of all time.

Vote in the ILM 70s poll please! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 25 February 2013 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

oops


Spiritualized
Feel So Sad

Released 1991 on Dedicated
Reviewed by Graveyard Poet, 24/02/2013ce

"Feel So Sad" is the shining moment of the Spaceman's career. Over the course of its thirteen transcendental minutes, Jason Pierce moves the listener from the dark depths of sorrow and suffering to the spiritual heights of a sublime bliss-out. The effect verges upon a near-death experience.

A disembodied voice, drifting in the void, mournfully intones a blues-gospel lament in the chambers of cathedral reverb:

"Sweet Lord I know
I hate this lonely life so
Lord I know
Time goes slow
I feel so alone
Sweet Lord
Sweet Lord is this my fate
To live my life in this state
Lord I pray
I long for a change
But it still remains
Sweet Lord
Sweet Lord it's a sin
To live this life suffering
I feel so sad
Sweet Lord"

The pain is healed by the floating tones of a Farfisa organ and soothing woodwinds. A flute solo delicately enters like a soft spring or summer breeze. A bright and golden brass section floods down glowing sunlight through the gray and stormy clouds. The clouds part as the soaring strings lift the listener. The blues-gospel prayer is repeated once more which is then followed by an even more triumphant ascension as distant percussion announces the music of the spheres. The keyboards, woodwinds, brass, and strings now send the listener past shimmering stars, spinning planets, spiral galaxies, and supernovas. The voyage quietly returns to the realm of the nebula, of the womb.

"Feel So Sad" is one of the greatest songs of all time.

Vote in the ILM 70s poll please! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 25 February 2013 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

more
http://www.headheritage.co.uk/unsung/reviewer/8120

Vote in the ILM 70s poll please! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 25 February 2013 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

Lord Can You Hear Me is another of his greatest songs. It was the song that got me into the Spacemen 3, at the time it sounded remarkable and on another level to all of the similar type bands.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Monday, 25 February 2013 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

Here's me thinking this was the title of the next album

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:23 (thirteen years ago)

@sleeve, from wikipedia:

Some US versions, on BMG, have, since 1996, retained a skip on all copies, causing "Angel Sigh" to false-start after about one minute. This error is one of the longest-standing in the major-label CD era, at thirteen years and counting.

fit and working again, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:57 (thirteen years ago)


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