Beastie Boys - "In A World Gone Mad"

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a) unbelievably the k-lamest of all the oversimplified cheezeball protest songs b) irrefutable and damningly conclusive evidence that zee boys now SUCK DAMP GREY ROCKS or c) both?

(here's a hint: the answer is c)

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 15:26 (twenty-three years ago)

(I was gonna single out a few choice couplets, but it's just ALL SO BAD, so here's the whole damn thing)

IN A WORLD GONE MAD.

In a world gone mad it's hard to think right
So much violence hate and spite
Murder going on all day and night
Due time we fight the nonviolent fight

Mirrors, smokescreens and lies
It's not the politicians but their actions I despise
You and Saddam should kick it like back in the day
With the cocaine and Courvoisier
But you build more bombs as you get more bold
As your mid-life crisis war unfolds
All you want to do is take control
Now put that access of evil bullshit on hold
Citizen rule number 2080
Politicians are shady
So people watch your back 'cause I think they smoke crack
I don't doubt it look at how they act

In a world gone mad it's hard to think right
So much violence hate and spite
Murder going on all day and night
Due time we fight the nonviolent fight

First the 'War On Terror' now war on Iraq
We're reaching a point where we can't turn back
Let's lose the guns and let's lose the bombs
And stop the corporate contributions that their built upon
Well I'll be sleeping on your speeches 'til I start to snore
'Cause I won't carry guns for an oil war
As-Salamu alaikum, wa alaikum assalam
Peace to the Middle East peace to Islam
Now don't get us wrong 'cause we love America
But that's no reason to get hysterica
They're layin' on the syrup thick
We ain't waffles we ain't havin' it

In a world gone mad it's hard to think right
So much violence hate and spite
Murder going on all day and night
Due time we fight the nonviolent fight

Now how many people must get killed?
For oil families pockets to get filled?
How many oil families get killed?
Not a damn one so what's the deal?

It's time to lead the way and de-escalate
Lose the weapons of mass destruction and the hate
Say ooh ah what's the White House doin'?
Oh no! Say, what in tarnation have they got brewing??!!!!???!!
Well I'm not pro Bush and I'm not pro Saddam
We need these fools to remain calm
George Bush you're looking like Zoolander
Trying to play tough for the camera
What am I on crazy pills? We've got to stop it
Get your hand out my grandma's pocket
We need health care more than going to war
You think it's democracy we're fighting for?

In a world gone mad it's hard to think right
So much violence hate and spite
Murder going on all day and night
Due time we fight the nonviolent fight

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 15:27 (twenty-three years ago)

haha saddam is on CRACK, they rhymed *america* with *hysterica* and oh god there's even a ZOOLANDER reference!

this is seriously some next-level type shit

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 15:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Although I've not heard this song yet, posting the lyrics has done NOTHING to make me think ill of it. Maybe if I listen and it sounds like Bob Seger or Spice Girls or something, I might dislike it then.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 15:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Q. Is this (being played / not being played) in your area? Where do you live? Is it being played on commerical stations? Clear Channel?

Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 15:34 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.beastieboys.com/

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 15:36 (twenty-three years ago)

this is what happens when you dont teach kids a sense of shame early on

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 15:36 (twenty-three years ago)

next stop: the children's televsion workshop

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 15:40 (twenty-three years ago)

(where they can teach me to spell)

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 15:40 (twenty-three years ago)

who would have known they'd grow up to take dean wormer's advice

"Beastie Boys, brief stars somewhere in the fall, nutty, fun and a bit bizarre, unfortunately dissolving before they could reach their full promise."

Tim Sommer, New York Thrash, 1982

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 15:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, these Beastie Boys lyrics are shite, but Missy Elliot's lyrics are totally radical. Sorry, I've got it straight now. You'll hear no more from me.

And they probably aren't playing the song in this area, as we don't have any radio stations that will play Beastie Boys anymore; however I can't be sure, 'cause I don't particularly listen to radio these days.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 15:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Sure Nickalicious, Missy Elliot can't rap for shit but the Beastie Boys - now THAT's flow!

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 15:46 (twenty-three years ago)

"tarnation"

cute!

Ben Williams, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 15:48 (twenty-three years ago)

b-but tom, they rock rock mic's like picasso rocked paint!

(etc)

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 15:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, sorry, I would rather hear blandly-delivered-lyrics-that-at-least-have-something-to-say than blandly-delivered-lyrics-that-have-absolutely-nothing-to-say, that's just me.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 15:50 (twenty-three years ago)

But Missy tackles a whole range of issues within the hip-hop community on her latest album. So much so that the preachy between song interludes are detrimental to your listening pleasure.

Ben Williams, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 15:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Nick-o
BB lyrics are worse then Missy's because they attempt to be important, when in fact they are vague and silly (and this is coming from someone who agrees with their politics). Missy's lyrics are vague and silly but are intended to be, at least in the songs I've heard. These BB lyrics are the definition of pretension: pretending like they're saying something "important" when in fact they're saying next to nothing.

Nick A. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 15:51 (twenty-three years ago)

"War, war is stupid
And people are stupid
And love means nothing
In some strange quarter"

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 15:52 (twenty-three years ago)

this song and its fans are proof that people who hate hip-hop make decisions in this world

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 15:53 (twenty-three years ago)

I pretty much agree Nick, except that I don't particularly look down on lyricists or call them "pretentious" for wanting to say something they believe.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 15:55 (twenty-three years ago)

even if they say it badly?!

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 15:57 (twenty-three years ago)

i honestly can't imagine one single person extracting any meaningful message from this song. unless yr an absolute dunce who doesn't know that war is imminent, there's nothing compelling/engaging/thought-provoking about it. as a protest song, it's a total failure - theres NO way to interact with it!

i mean, i'm totally in line with their politics too and still it left me completely cold

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 15:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Something about this song makes me think they're being crap on purpose. I mean the music track sounds like a deliberate home-made goof and so do the lyrics, really. Maybe they thought it would be *more* pretentious to do something less throw-away in this case? Something really "crafted"?

On the other hand, maybe it just plain sucks.

arch Ibog (arch Ibog), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:01 (twenty-three years ago)

it reads like a wacky "rap" invented by a govt. agency to promote its services to the kids

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:01 (twenty-three years ago)

I agree with mark p.
But my other main problem is that they're talking about an extremely serious issue in a way that no one could possibly take seriously, with horrible jokes and a Zoolander reference. It seems pretty distasteful and unproductive. What are they trying to accomplish?

Nick A. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:05 (twenty-three years ago)

even if they say it badly?!

Thus is the matter of individual judgment and r*****l s**********m once again noted.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:06 (twenty-three years ago)

ned, take it outside

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:07 (twenty-three years ago)

haha jess is otm

its like smth poochie the cartoon dog wd write!

dont do drugs
cause drugs are lame
stay in school
keep your head in the game

etc etc

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:08 (twenty-three years ago)

ned, take it outside

But it's chilly and I have no sweater. *weeps*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Disaster . . . it can happen anywhere,
But we've got a few tips, so you can be prepared
For floods, tornadoes, or even a 'quake,
You've got to be ready - so your heart don't break.
Disaster prep is your responsibility
And mitigation is important to our agency.

People helping people is what we do
And FEMA is there to help see you through
When disaster strikes, we are at our best
But we're ready all the time, 'cause disasters don't rest.

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:12 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm curious now which is generally considered worse: writing about a serious subject and still maintaining a jokeyness, or writing about a jokey subject and maintaining seriousness?

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Both are good but the jokes need to be funny in the former so it's more difficult.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:14 (twenty-three years ago)

True dat Tom. I just don't find these particularly cringe-worthy, as so many others seem to.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:17 (twenty-three years ago)

nickalicious the beastie boys circulating their lyrics w/ the press release for the song (= "tonight, on a very special episode of friends...") opens the door for public scrutiny of a v. different sort, thus the comparisons to missy on missy's terms aren't fair play

if you cohearse the listener to engage with you and then give them NOTHING to engage with save a bunch of hollow and empty platitudes about how war is wack and oil is the cause, then the natural assumption is going to be that you are pretentious for doing so

the mistake most musicians make -> assuming that merely namechecking the basic facts abt politics is tantamount to grappling with the issue. meanwhile, in the real world, anyone with even a basic handle on politics is going to read this and get NOTHING from it, other than the tip that the beasties are now as anti-war as they are anti-humour

i'd REALLY like to hear even a hypothetical example of the type of person who might find something valuable in these words

until then it seems to me like the equivalent of calling a bunch of people over to my house and reading them a list of exotic ingredients in the hopes of proving that i am actually a gourmet chef

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:23 (twenty-three years ago)

haha tom's criticism of all rap = "the jokes aren't funny enough"

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Funny political rap = "they got humans using humans for bombs"

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:26 (twenty-three years ago)

...the beastie boys circulating their lyrics w/ the press release for the song...

I had no idea they were making a big deal like this; I was under the impression this was just a song that everyone was getting all pissy about. This does change things a bit. Honestly, I couldn't possibly be more out of touch with the world. Sorry to come in here and be a dick about it.

Tom, is that line from a Non-Phixion song? Those guys know how to use humor & politics VERY effectively.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:27 (twenty-three years ago)

That George W. campaign documentary shows that he's really witty and articulate when he's just hanging out. Joking around with tequilla-swilling journalists, he's everybody's brilliant best friend. Put him behind a podium, though, and he suddenly turns into a clumsy, evil, moron. His style just doesn't work when applied to serious subject matter.

A similar phenomenon can be seen in the Tibetan Freedom Concert documentary. Mike D seems like a really cool guy until someone asks him about Tibetan genocide. He attemps an irreverent, faux naif answer, realizes how horrible it sounds, and falls into an awkward silence.

The public debate over the war in Iraq is often painfully embarassing, because no one in America remembers how to talk in a serious manner. We're good at building collages out of pop culture references, non sequiturs, in jokes, and other verbal bric- a- brac, but these collages aren't a very good platform for coherent political thought. Bob Dylan's political collages are a possible exception; George W's and Mike D's are not.

EC, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:29 (twenty-three years ago)

haha nick that's fred durst from the ALL STAR redo of "what's goin on"

"the themes of structural adjustments intertwine like flex/wire: U-r don't reproduce the timeworn rocky cliche of politics as a grim faced suppliment 'to' music (soapbox oration + deathless major chords). It is rather a torsion of such preconceptions...things being twisted, frayed, stretched. The 'ordinary' is twisted into strange new folds: serrated lines of testimony, sounds of protest, song, disappointment, joy - imaginal urbanism meets concrete praxis downtown." - i. penman

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Oy, how depressing. :(

Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:32 (twenty-three years ago)

D'oh! I'm a dumbass.

It just reminded me of a Non-Phixion lyric that went, like:

suicide bombs/from Al Qaeda to the Koran/Bin Laden is still CIA..." and so forth.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:35 (twenty-three years ago)

'It seems pretty distasteful and unproductive'

Yay! They've gone back to their "Girls"/'Don't Be a Faggot' roots!

dave q, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 17:27 (twenty-three years ago)

It's no more embarassing than Missy's Columbine shout-out in the liner notes to Da Real World. I thought it was kinda funny, both intentionally and unintentionally. A rush job, obviously, but every war gets the protest music it deserves.

Jesse Fox Mayshark (Jesse Fox), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 17:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Seriously, has there been a single good war/protest song since September 11th? (NOTE: "Juxtapozed with U" came out before September 11th.)

Evan (Evan), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 21:26 (twenty-three years ago)

there was that Steve Earle song...?

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 21:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Non-Phixion to the last post!

(Okay, so none of their songs are actually specifically anti-war or protesting shit, but they have some of the best 9.11-related lyrics of any group around right now. Not to mention an evil powerful sense of humor.)

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 21:30 (twenty-three years ago)

so sue me, I typod..:

Bestie Boys - "In A World Gone Mad" C/D

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 21:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Sorry. I love this song (lyrics at least, haven't heard the track yet). Cuz I'm not a waffle.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 23:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Anthony maybe you should check this thread: Beastie Boys vs. Clint Black FITE

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 23:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Seriously, has there been a single good war/protest song since September 11th?

Sage Francis, "Makeshift Patriot". Thank you, drive through.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Thursday, 13 March 2003 00:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Sage Francis, definitely

pip, Thursday, 13 March 2003 10:47 (twenty-three years ago)

The Presence, "Woke" 12" on Def Jux

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 13 March 2003 10:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Saul Williams, "September 12th"

Simon H., Thursday, 13 March 2003 12:57 (twenty-three years ago)


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