great/charismatic vocal performances over shit instrumentation

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And is this a bad thing?

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 20 March 2003 12:30 (twenty-three years ago)

James Brown's current touring band suck, but it doesn't bother me.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 20 March 2003 12:31 (twenty-three years ago)

All due credit to the Amateurist/Jess Hill back-and-forth on the Self Portrait thread.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 20 March 2003 12:32 (twenty-three years ago)

I mean, sometimes a mediocre session band can really be useful for achieving a special quality when there's a "genius" involved... phoned-in, on-the-fly cheapness as metaphor for the dilettante's all-encompassing pop idea (see Klaus Nomi's "Simple Man").

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 20 March 2003 12:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Is this like the musical equivalent of when Hitchcock used deliberately fake sets and back-projections on Rebecca to accentuate the artificiality of her situation?

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 20 March 2003 12:46 (twenty-three years ago)

It's like a flirtation with an abstract, mutant notion of a pop-life culture that the artist may be something of an outsider to -- so perhaps the success of that fusion of great/terrible is unintentional, when the intention might be for it to be ohsoterribly "wonderful" (in the condescending Warholian way).

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 20 March 2003 12:58 (twenty-three years ago)

or just talk about "great/charismatic vocal performances over shit instrumentation" in general...

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 20 March 2003 15:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Eyeless in Gaza

― girl scout heroin (iamamonkey), Thursday, 20 March 2003 15:09 (twenty-three years ago)

the first thing(s) that sprung to mind were those live 70s lou reed performances on rock'n'roll animal - especially the vaudeville take on "heroin" wherein he just goes on and on and ON (even though we can't see him miming shooting up) - where he's basically hectoring like a fat, overpleased catskillz cat over tinkly piano schmaltz and really purple "feedback" obviously designed to somehow link this sideshow carnie routine to his "edgy" days in the velvets while simultaneously making hilarious comment on them.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 March 2003 15:10 (twenty-three years ago)

edith massey's "punk" cover of "big girls don't cry"

http://www.dreamlandnews.com/cast/images/girls_sleeve.gif

(vocals fall more under a euphemistic "charismatic" than "great")

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 20 March 2003 15:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Arguably Langely Schools Music Project, though the people who argue this generally don't like LSMP

I think maybe you have to consider the instrumentation to be on the charismatic side of shit. In which case, the Moldy Peaches.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 20 March 2003 19:10 (twenty-three years ago)

*cough*Blue Nile*cough*

Alright,alright, I don't mean it.

― Cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 20 March 2003 19:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Ooh,ooh,ooh, Nick Drake!!!

― Cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 20 March 2003 19:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Is this like the musical equivalent of when Hitchcock used deliberately fake sets and back-projections on Rebecca to accentuate the artificiality of her situation?

I never got this sense from Rebecca. Marnie, definately.

― Sean (Sean), Thursday, 20 March 2003 20:08 (twenty-three years ago)

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