In Praise of the Humble Cassette

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Goddam I hate this bullshit of everything having to get everything you've done home-studio stylee onto a fuckin' CD! FUCK CDs!!! No two PCs are ever compatible (then there's fuckin' Macs on top of that), having to deal with encoding systems that randomly destroy them, computers that decide "I've had enough, fuck this" halfway through, having click glitch pop noises between the tracks that are louder than the tracks themselves, having 50% of ppl getting them saying 'sorry doesn't work on mine', and the fact that you don't know if you've actually burnt them properly (let alone if it's the monitor mix going on there or some other shit) until it's too late!
Whereas cassettes were just so cool! Write the shit in the morning, ready for public consumption in the afternoon! Who do I blame for this, Mark Knopfler?

dave q, Friday, 21 March 2003 16:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Also the cunt who decided there needed to be 37 speeds of tape-recording can eat my fuc too

dave q, Friday, 21 March 2003 16:02 (twenty-three years ago)

(to everyone I promised shit don't worry u will get it, this isn't an excuse or a moan about having to do it, more an invitation to share peeves re home recording)

dave q, Friday, 21 March 2003 16:04 (twenty-three years ago)

dave = hero.

i mean, like, how easy was it to get wee spoken bits and cool stuff
in between songs on compilations for people on tape, and how cool it
was to just...mix it up mixtape style. mixtape that's what it's called
if you're doing a mix (limited to 70 bastard minutes cos some pillock
at sony liked a piece of classical that lasted 70 minutes 20 yrs ago and decided that shld be the lenghth of all cds. tw*t.) it's still
a mixtape, only on cd. i hate cds. grrrrrrrr

piscesboy, Friday, 21 March 2003 16:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Cassettes blow chunks. Mini-Discs are far superior, although they're quickly dying. If Sony were smarter, they would have gone out and actually demonstrated how cool MD players are. They sound better than cassettes, they're virually indestructible and you can move tracks around or replace one with another. And you can't fuck one up, unlike a CD.
As an added bonus for people like me who listen to a lot of old music, if you record in mono you double the length of an MD. I can fit two-and-a-half hours of classic R&B or blues on one disk.

And as far as your comment about computers giving up half way, this doesn't happen with my Mac. Ever. Macs and iTunes rule.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Friday, 21 March 2003 16:27 (twenty-three years ago)

I will admit, MDs are fuckin' awesome. The shit.

dave q, Friday, 21 March 2003 16:35 (twenty-three years ago)

no, Dave ws right in the first place, cassettes ruled. but the problem is now using one feels limited: the POTENTIAL inherent in annoying multi-step digital interface crapola makes it impossible to conceive of the cassette as a still-viable option. actually using cassettes is a very indie-sewing-circle thing to do and carries ideological baggage, so one gots ta use the CD whether it's actually more convenient (it isn't) or not (not).

the conclusion as always is that progress is lame

J0hn Darn1ell (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 21 March 2003 16:36 (twenty-three years ago)

I praise the Humble Pie

girl scout heroin (iamamonkey), Friday, 21 March 2003 16:40 (twenty-three years ago)

cassettes rule. I just made another mix last night while simultaneously preparing dinner and playing Nerfhoop against my 4yr.old son (little bastard travels!) for my friend J. You can't do that with CDs, all hunched over a laptop or something, isolated in the dark like a mushroom

plus cassettes can't be played on a computer: a good thing

Neudonym, Friday, 21 March 2003 16:41 (twenty-three years ago)

mix tapes on cassettes are great - you can split the mix nicely in to two sides, lovely little music hiss when playback is just about to snap but one problem - they twist, warp and snap and as a result of this MD's are superior

james (james), Friday, 21 March 2003 16:45 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah maybe they are but it's irrelevant because MDs are the Beta of audio recording media, whereas cassettes will never really die

I think I hope I dream

Neudonym, Friday, 21 March 2003 16:49 (twenty-three years ago)

all i need now is one re-writable cd for my discman - no more spending money on blank minidiscs and tapes or CDs if i want to take my music with me - almost perfect...altho the player is still a bit too big for my liking. if CDs had been started at just 3" diameter i'd be happy.

i agree its a crying shame its tough to get CD-Rs burnt on PCs to play properly on Macs, and sometimes it fucks up but only about 1 in 50 times for me, the pros far outweigh the cons with CD as far as i;m concerned. they may not play on every single computer but they will play on every single stereo, unless the disc genuinely is buggered.

cassettes kinda suck cos the quality deteriorates rapidly - and rewinging/fast-forwarding is a chore, and i never had hi-speed dubbing so had to record to them in 'realtime' which is DUD DUD DUD - same goes for minidisc in that respect, altho Firewire and stuff looks cool

stevem (blueski), Friday, 21 March 2003 16:57 (twenty-three years ago)

i mean obv. cassettes have a place in my heart because i relied on them so much growing up, but not for a long time now

its funny that vinyl and now cassettes get so romanticised - obv. they have fine attributes (esp. bid bad vinyl) but both were just as flawed as CDs in their own respective ways, if not more so. but you just cant see people getting all dewy-eyed when CDs and even MDs eventuall bite the dust, to be replaced by those see-thru credit card things from Minority Report...but at the end of the day i dont REALLY care what format the content is delivered on as long as it works for me.

stevem (blueski), Friday, 21 March 2003 17:06 (twenty-three years ago)

Goddam I hate this bullshit of everything having to get everything you've done home-studio stylee onto a fuckin' CD!

I just record straight to the computer.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 21 March 2003 17:08 (twenty-three years ago)

I love the cassette format. I know the fidelity and longevity are imperfect, but CDRs are lacking because they're so fragile and MDs suck because they lack two-sidedness and low availabilty of playing chasis.

---Maybe there'll one-day be some kind of flash card to exchange MP3s (or whatever) but where do you put the artwork (--and don't say "Why, digitally, of course." - you technofreakin' commie).

christoff (christoff), Friday, 21 March 2003 17:54 (twenty-three years ago)

I like the honest cassette as a way of making compilations to either listen to myself or give to people. Their throwaway quality suits the fact that no one (myself or other) wants to keep compis forever.

I might do a tape of tunes about WAR tonight.

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 21 March 2003 18:07 (twenty-three years ago)

if i record to MD i always do it in Mono so you can get 148 minutes capacity - stereo is rarely necessary, esp. for portable listening.

stevem (blueski), Friday, 21 March 2003 18:54 (twenty-three years ago)

I am always happy to disagree with Dave Q when he offers stuff this good

M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 21 March 2003 18:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Can we also praise cassette-only labels that still exist, even though it's the 21st Century and all? Like Best Kept Secret or the mostly cassette Unread?

Chris P (Chris P), Friday, 21 March 2003 19:44 (twenty-three years ago)

or the first 8 albums from Home

cassettes suck, Dolby NR doesn't seems like it ever works properly so i always end up turning it off to hear the sizzle of the highs; when the track ends it's like "sssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"

also i can't tell you how many times i've had to do the take-the-tiny-screws-out rigamarole to untwist the shit

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 21 March 2003 19:54 (twenty-three years ago)

our label, Polyamory still release mostly cassettes, and many others are fighting the good fight as well - including what is surely one of the best labels in America right now, American Tapes. My girl Jessica bought a new car last year and insisted they put in a cassette deck and not a CD player. I still make mix tapes and love the tape format. Long may it run.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 21 March 2003 20:45 (twenty-three years ago)

When CDs do eventually fade away, they damn well better keep making CD players. I am NOT converting my 1,500 CDs to a new format, jack.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Friday, 21 March 2003 20:50 (twenty-three years ago)

you won't need to buy a new player

stevem (blueski), Friday, 21 March 2003 21:31 (twenty-three years ago)

When CDs do eventually fade away, they damn well better keep making CD players. I am NOT converting my 1,500 CDs to a new format, jack.

hahahahahaha o yes you ARE

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Saturday, 22 March 2003 00:29 (twenty-three years ago)

I put out a cassette-only release on Hospital Productions last year. Even better though - Dropdead did an 8-track release.

Dave Fischer, Saturday, 22 March 2003 00:35 (twenty-three years ago)

four years pass...
*revive*

I just got a nice 3-head deck with HX-Pro and i can't tell the difference between the tape and the sourse. Anybody else still digging on audio cassettes?

christoff, Thursday, 29 March 2007 23:37 (nineteen years ago)

I listen to my boxload of cassettes all the time. Fuck y'all.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 30 March 2007 00:36 (nineteen years ago)

cassettes rule. except when NOISE DUDES put them out and think $10 is a fair price for a generic c20.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Friday, 30 March 2007 03:25 (nineteen years ago)

hell ya, brother
$10 should be the standard exchange for any piece of music
after all, music's better than a sandwich

sexyDancer, Friday, 30 March 2007 03:35 (nineteen years ago)

cassettes are great. the problem is that i have too many-- there are cassettes in every crevice of my car, all over the bedroom, in the kitchen, etc. and a lot of them are grindcore and spanish hardcore bands, which is jarring.

what i want is this, which my friend has on 8-track: http://www.discogs.com/release/310091 .
also has a working boombox with 8-track. SO JEALOUS.

the table is the table, Friday, 30 March 2007 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

four years pass...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ibY4C0wpSuo/TddMhC2x_0I/AAAAAAAAAF8/81RuWZY3Xvk/s1600/IMG_4298.JPG

del griffith, Thursday, 2 June 2011 17:26 (fifteen years ago)

man, dave q was such a visionary--i miss that guy so much

geeta, Thursday, 2 June 2011 17:33 (fifteen years ago)

poll xp

brad whitford, witchfynder general (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 2 June 2011 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

I played my copy of Graffiti Bridge this morning. It sounds great!

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 June 2011 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

polling david berman's cassette library btw

stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Thursday, 2 June 2011 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

Dave Q miss you seconded!

Clarke B., Thursday, 2 June 2011 19:08 (fifteen years ago)

i used to record live sound for movies on minidisc (then dump it to WAV). i thought they looked so fucking cool. mine were all candy-colored and i didn't even mind, they were the coolest-looking candy-colored anything. they were the best for filmmaking -- indestructible, re-recordable, hi-fi, takes divided automatically into tracks -- and i liked them so much that i even went to the pointless trouble of recording mp3s onto them, which had to be done in real time (this is what you did with cassettes, yes?)

i remember particularly i taped momus' "i was a maoist intellectual" onto one of them and walked around school listening to "I BECAME A HOTEL DOORMAN / I STOOD THERE ON THE DOORMAT / CLUTCHING MY FORGOTTEN DISKS IN THEIR FORGOTTEN FORMAT".

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 2 June 2011 19:26 (fifteen years ago)

there was some love upthread for minidiscs, is why.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 2 June 2011 19:26 (fifteen years ago)

What a cool tape collection!

Deremiah Was a Bullfrog (u s steel), Thursday, 2 June 2011 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

nine years pass...

RIP, King: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/lou-ottens-dead/2021/03/10/2acec574-81c7-11eb-ac37-4383f7709abe_story.html

beer drops on my keytar (morrisp), Thursday, 11 March 2021 07:50 (five years ago)

Bandcamp has significantly boosted my cassette purchases. i used to do one or two yearly ... now it's more like a few per month

alpine static, Thursday, 11 March 2021 09:14 (five years ago)

"At least he got to see ninety" is this year's "Calzone Express"

Mark G, Thursday, 11 March 2021 10:25 (five years ago)

RIP. cassettes are so fun. i got a walkman for my jasmine last christmas and she was overjoyed. starting a little collection in this format for the first time since i was very smol has been such a pleasure

davey, Thursday, 11 March 2021 11:03 (five years ago)


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