loser djs attempting to release "real music"

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Just listneing to this Dj /Rupture "Paloma Grease" track on some Split CD with The Bug vs The Rootsman on Tigerbeat6 and i'm struck by how completely crap it is.

and I totally wish i could take back thoose 2-3 mins skipping through it looking for something redeemable./

― Savin All My Love 4 u (Savin 4ll my (heart) 4u), Monday, 24 March 2003 06:28 (twenty-three years ago)

and it just gets worse...

― Savin All My Love 4 u (Savin 4ll my (heart) 4u), Monday, 24 March 2003 06:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Hmmmn. A lot of the music on both /rupture's mixes were recorded by him (under the /rupture name and also Nettle and Mutamassik) and almost all of it sounds good to me in that context. I don't think his tracks on the "Split" CD are particularly amazing (esp. when compared with the Bug/Rootsman/Daddy Freddy tracks) but he's recorded some other good stuff for Broklyn Beats and the Nettle album is pretty swell.

(For some reason I thought this thread was going to be about Trevor Jackson or UNKLE haha.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 24 March 2003 06:48 (twenty-three years ago)

re this thread's title: now i know what "rockism" means

(haven't heard this CD yet, so can't comment on that)

― Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 24 March 2003 06:49 (twenty-three years ago)

don't know that track but everything else /rupture has made (not mixed) has been grate.

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 24 March 2003 06:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Alex, Mutamassik is a woman who lives in Brooklyn, not a /rupture alias

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 24 March 2003 06:50 (twenty-three years ago)

My mistake, Matos. There is a remix on the "Split" CD and I know that Mutamassik was on the same label, so I just figured. . . wrongly.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 24 March 2003 06:52 (twenty-three years ago)

PAUL OAKENFOLD

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 24 March 2003 07:21 (twenty-three years ago)

c'mon jim, thats not real music.

― gaz (gaz), Monday, 24 March 2003 10:06 (twenty-three years ago)

NICK HORNBY

(it is compulsory to mention him on any thread concerning "real music," i.e. music i liked when i was 19)

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 24 March 2003 10:10 (twenty-three years ago)

c'mon marcello, he's not a dj.

― gaz (gaz), Monday, 24 March 2003 10:23 (twenty-three years ago)

we want, like, Pete Tong's singer-songwriter album.

― gaz (gaz), Monday, 24 March 2003 10:26 (twenty-three years ago)

c'mon gaz, he's not a loser

― gaz (gaz), Monday, 24 March 2003 10:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Hornby = frustrated DJ

― dave q, Monday, 24 March 2003 11:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Hornby = failed music journalist gets his revenge by mutating into only music journalist "general public" has heard of. "31 songs" is pop's equivalent of larkin's "all what jazz."

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 24 March 2003 11:24 (twenty-three years ago)

what's the Larkin book you speak of, Marcello? I am curious

― ignorant Yank (M Matos), Monday, 24 March 2003 11:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Collection of the reviews Philip L did for the Daily Telegraph in the '60s. Highly reactionary (nothing good in jazz after 1939, Parker Pound & Picasso the three assassins of the 20th century, Coltrane "fit only for coaxing cobras" etc.) but immensely popular because of who he was, voice of the people (which he wasn't) etc. - for years you could walk into a bookshop and literally the only jazz book they had was the Larkin one. Reading "31 Songs" the template seems the same - the author's (self-induced) troubled life is used as an excuse to sneer at people who love music, who insist that music is still of some relevance to their lives. Same with the final chapter of "High Fidelity" - oh, let's not bother with all that noisy new music that is so difficult for us 36-year-olds to listen to, stick to "Twist And Shout," if it was any good you'd have heard it at school, etc. And the trouble is the same - the public will buy this and take it as gospel because they feel that NH is "communicating" with them. Thus the course of music is set back even further.

Personally, the book has acted as a spur for me to try and get a publishable Church of Me done in book form, and yes I am in discussion with publishers at the moment. I'll let you know what, if anything, happens.

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 24 March 2003 12:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Paul Oakenfold has been producing as long as he has been DJing - Happy Mondays etc.

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 March 2003 12:41 (twenty-three years ago)

that's great news, Marcello, best of luck

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 24 March 2003 23:38 (twenty-three years ago)

huh,i had heard larkin was a really good jazz critic
that sounds awful though
as i've said on another thread,(a nick hornby one come to think of it)i'd love to see the church of me in print and wish you luck...

― robin (robin), Monday, 24 March 2003 23:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Go there Mr Carlin.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 00:23 (twenty-three years ago)

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