TS: Broadcast vs. Ladytron

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Not quite the same thing. Not quite, but a bit close.

(Inspired by: here.)

Personally would take Papercuts and Come On Let's Go over Playgirl and Seventeen... but maybe that's just me.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:18 (twenty-three years ago)

broadcast: almost as loud as my bl00dy val3nt1n3 if you can believe that.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:22 (twenty-three years ago)

i think the new Black Box Recorder is more comparable with Ladytron, well OLD Ladytron anyway ;)

Broadcast have got more in common with Stereolab than with Ladytron but I wouldnt like to compare them either

just gonna say Broadcast cos i love em to bits, they're back and i can't wait for the new stuff.

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Broadcast, Broadcast and Broadcast. Ladytron have one song - Seventeen and are London haircuts (cf. Bang Magazine). Broadcast are the talents. Stereolab was effectively rendered irrelevant when BIRMINGHAM created Broadcast.

Samson, Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Broadcast = terrific, one of my absolute favorites. In the live setting I didn't think of them as "loud" so much as "BASSBASSBASSBASS" -- I don't know if it was that club's system or their standard approach, but the bass was so serious that you could barely concentrate on the music because of the distracting bass-induced wobblings of your entire digestive system. Seriously, I was literally nauseated by that hum shooting through my bowels. It sort of spoiled the show.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Eewww. Moderators delete that thread. I don't want Broadcast to be associate with that guy's bowels!

Samson, Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Hahaha BIRMINGHAM = Broadcast Invention Research, Middle-England Institute for Numbingly Good and Healthily Arranged Music?

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Broadcast were stunning in concert. The video projection was really good, and so was the music.

Where did you see them, Nabisco?

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:33 (twenty-three years ago)

FIGURINE!!!!

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Ladytron have one song - Seventeen

Samson i assume you havent heard the first album '604' then which sounds more and more superior to 'Light & Magic' by the day. 'CSKA Sofia' is remarkably Broadcast-esque but with no vocals. outstanding tracks like 'The Way That I Found You' and 'Discotrax' are upbeat but the vocals are a little reminiscent of Trish Keenan amongst others.

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Why bother when I've got meself some Broadcast!

Samson, Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:38 (twenty-three years ago)

because '604' is better than both Broadcast albums as a whole says I

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Bass, treble, vocals, you name it: LOUD...

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:41 (twenty-three years ago)

pfff Figurine seriously need to work on (a) their backing tracks and (b) their vocals. not necessarily in that order. that said, i like them, but they're no Broadcast, who are truly truly wonderful.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:42 (twenty-three years ago)

FREEZEPOP!!!!

(oh yeah jim, I did reply to your email about the comp, did you get it?)

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Pfft...!! Broadcast are Mancini Iconic. Ladytron are a silly singles band with mullets.

Samson, Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:50 (twenty-three years ago)

oh jel thanks yeah i got it but have been slack in replying.. will get onto that

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 23:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Broadcast have a seemingly interesting sound, but they somehow manage to be boring as fuck most of the time.

Ladytron have a deliciously gorgeous sound and songs that don't put me to sleep.


xnelio (xnelio), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 23:45 (twenty-three years ago)

birmingham has a cool triumvirate of broadcast, pram and plone, they all seem to share quite a lot in common soundwise.

keith (keithmcl), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 01:46 (twenty-three years ago)

have plone falled off the face of the earth? or do they just work really slooooooowly?

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 01:51 (twenty-three years ago)

heheh falled

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 01:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Given how the respective bands sound, we might as well have TS: Peter Thomas vs. Jan Hammer

I love both bands to little bitsy fragments and I can't choose (not even using the "are they the best at what they do" question instead of a direct comparison to each other). Can I say Ladytron strictly on the basis of a Broadcast song being used in an Austin Powers movie?

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 02:19 (twenty-three years ago)

no you can't

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 02:22 (twenty-three years ago)

fuk

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 02:29 (twenty-three years ago)

plone did a pram remix a couple years ago, so i think they are still around???

keith (keithmcl), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 04:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Ohh, I love them BOTH, but Ladytron based on how the whole of "604" makes me feel sexy.

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 05:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Ladytron are pretty much my favourite band in the world right now, 604 is flawless pop holy grail and Light & Magic comes within a hair's breadth of being as great. Broadcast have yet to make a consistently perfect album (Work And Non Work suffering slightly from recorded-ten-feet-from-mic syndrome and Not Being A Proper Album, and The Noise Made By People getting a bit clunky in the second half), but they CAN and WILL, I have terrifyingly uncharacteristic amounts of faith in Broadcast. And next time I play The Noise Made By People I'll doubtless completely revise my opinion anyway.

So, cannot choose, they're both better than everyone else in the world, really (which is not to undermine the skyscraping achievements of others, etc.)

alexfack (alexfack), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:38 (twenty-three years ago)

i think WANW and TNMBP 'suffer' somewhat from a filler element, but the number of great single material on both (altho 'Echo's Answer' does not seem right as a single at all, as wonderful as it is) is still very high.

also the tracks on both 'Extended Play' EPs are as good as anything on the albums

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:50 (twenty-three years ago)

which broadcast song was in an 'austin powers' ?
or was that a joke ?

piscesboy, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 13:14 (twenty-three years ago)

it was 'The Book Lovers', you don't hear it in the film tho i'm pretty sure

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 13:19 (twenty-three years ago)

'you can fall' is on the soundtrack to Morvern Callar but i havent seen that yet

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 13:20 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm going to nudge this thread to the top of the list again because I want people to keep saying things about Ladytron and Broadcast.

alexfack (alexfack), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 15:24 (twenty-three years ago)

No, but, c'mon.

alexfack (alexfack), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 15:46 (twenty-three years ago)

brooooaaaddcaaaaaaast! (said like how pharrel says "staaaaaarr traaaaaak" on the beginning on "when the last time"). "the noise made by people" is gorgeous.

there's an ep coming soon yeah?

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 16:12 (twenty-three years ago)

nine months pass...
my feeling is that Broadcast have fumbled the ball with their recent tunes free album, leaving the field open to Ladytron. I am listening to Ladytron at least once a day at the moment, but the record in question was released quite a while ago, so there's great scope for them to have fumbled the ball too.

DV (dirtyvicar), Saturday, 17 January 2004 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

DV OTM. I tried to like the broadcast album, but it's a bit arid. It would have been a lot better if it wasn't so bloody overcompressed.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 17 January 2004 18:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree with both the above, I like the Broadcast album very much but I (eventually) loved the first two considerably more, and Ladytron certainly more so than that. Everything Ladytron do seems to be precision-engineered to make me impossibly happy and delighted and to make my quality of life better and things, whereas Haha Sound suggests that Broadcast are constantly edging away from the genius zerograv-antimatter-pop into far more wonkily dischordant punishing terrain almost gratuitously; they're much better when they do the perfect pop song thing. If Haha Sound was more verse-chorus conventional I'd probably like it more.

New Ladytron elpee scheduled for September and it is "Antimusic" apparently which is a title I like a lot but then I always love their titles, and everything about them, ever.

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Saturday, 17 January 2004 20:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd be more likely to put a Broadcast album on than Ladytron just now because they stand up to repeat listening better - Ladytron are good for that intense pop rush but they have less subtleties and get stale faster. I still think Ladytron are a better band overall though, better melodies and more focussed arrangements. Based on the concerts I've seen Ladytron wipe the floor with Broadcast as a live band, although other peoples experience seems (mystifyingly) different. If Ladytron could capture some of the ballsiness of their better live gigs on their records they could be almost as good a band as their fans say they are.

ArfArf, Sunday, 18 January 2004 15:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Vocalists from both bands tend to falter here and there live, I feel really mean saying it but I see this as the only thing holding both bands back from being truly great live acts - that said 'Hammer Without A Master' is still one of the best live things i've ever heard (where Keenan's vocals consist of no more than brittle but tuneful and effective moaning/wailing at the start and end). Broadcast have wiped the floor with Ladytron for me live but I've only seen the latter once at Reading where they didn't play 'Discotrax' and were pretty out of time with each other for the most part (this was back in 2001 tho)

stevem (blueski), Sunday, 18 January 2004 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

to say 'haha sound' is 'tune free' is absurdity. 'Before We Begin', though a bit too derived from 'Come On Let's Go' is a gorgeous pop song and there are many great simple melodic elements on most of the tracks (esp. Ominous Cloud, Minim and Colour Me In).

stevem (blueski), Sunday, 18 January 2004 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

It helps to listen to Haha Sound in mid-June while walking down a tree-lined boulevard. It helps to listen to Light and Magic while walking through a heavy snowfall in one of the more '70s-concrete-architecture-laden segments of a major metropolitan downtown.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 18 January 2004 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

haha sound goes through the seasons in some style. 'Colour Me In' soundtracks the blossoming of trees and the rebirth of the landscape in vibrant tones. it's actually 'Small Song IV' off the Pendulum EP that reminds me most of Summer though. From 'Ominous Cloud' onwards it all goes a bit colder, with 'Hawk' really signalling the end of the cycle once more as everything dies out and the light fades.

stevem (blueski), Sunday, 18 January 2004 17:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Broadcast by a country mile. I like Ladytron but there is more than a touch of the kitschy joke about them.

LondonLee (LondonLee), Sunday, 18 January 2004 18:18 (twenty-two years ago)

FREEZEPOP!

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 18 January 2004 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Ladytron have one song - Seventeen and are London haircuts (cf. Bang Magazine). Broadcast are the talents.

I don't fully agree with this, but it's nearly true in that Ladytron are best when they stick to the fairly simple pop formula of "Playgirl", "Seventeen", "He Took Her To A Movie" etc... and yeah, it's fair to say that Broadcast are better overall. But Ladytron's 'one song' beats shit out of Broadcast's many.

Both are great though. And Haha Sound has the most 'tuneful' Broadcast songs to date on it!

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 18 January 2004 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)


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