C/D: Q and Not U

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I never see this band mentioned on here, but I am a huge fan -- I think they are definitely the most innovative and interesting of the bands that get grouped in the post-gang-of-four-dance-rapture-punk category, but I never see them get any love in these parts. Is the Dischord connection a turn-off to people?

Both full lengths are really interesting, and I their most recent single, "Book of Flags" b/w "X-Pollination, is GREAT. What do you people think?

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Friday, 9 January 2004 23:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I have the first album....i thought it was alright, very fugazi-ish, but a little more on the at the drive in side (it's been awhile since I heard it)

I've read good things about their subsequent stuff (Different Damage I think was one?)....and mean to pick one up....What should I get?

I'm wierd maybe in that a Dischord connection is still a good thing to me.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 9 January 2004 23:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Different Damage is excellent -- a lot different than the first one, with some cool dub-stuff and really creative and interesting drumming and vocal patterns. I highly recommend the new single mentioned above, too.

I'm with you on the Dischord-connection being a positive thing, but I grew up in Bethesda in Suburban D.C. and all of that 1990s stuff shaped my whole musical worldview forever.

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Saturday, 10 January 2004 00:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll check out diff damage...wierder would be better in my book. I like the one I have okay, but it was a little too straightforward or somthing.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Saturday, 10 January 2004 00:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I really liked No Kill No Beep Beep in that mid-90s crazy-double-guitar-attack indie-rock kinda way; apart from "Soft Pyramids", though, nothing on Different Damage stuck with me. Experimentation would have been fine with me if they were able to keep up the energy, but I found most of DD to be plodding and a little dull.

Nick Mirov (nick), Saturday, 10 January 2004 00:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't pick up Different Damage becaus the "Soft Pyramids" single wasn't very gripping. But the first album was really good if somewhat generic (Bluetip? Fugazi? Jawbox? All are acceptable and legitimate references.) They were totally killer live, but I haven't seen 'em as a trio. I imagine they're... different?

Ian Johnson (orion), Saturday, 10 January 2004 00:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Very different... they fill out the songs with a baritone guitar in place of the bass on some songs, and on others the 2nd guitarist plays low notes on an analog keyboard. They reworked some of the old material with this instrumentation and it sounds really excellent and even harder (esp. the song from their first single, "And the Washington Monument Blinks Goodnight").

Last time I saw them in L.A., they covered a Screamers song and then finished the set with this total go-go percussion breakdown that was really cool. I was really blown away and confused as to why they're not getting the same kind of hype as some of the other bands they're often grouped with.

Also search their cover of "Don't Let It Bring You Down" from a benefit comp from a year or so ago.

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Saturday, 10 January 2004 01:10 (twenty-two years ago)

they're probably not getting hype because they're not whores/not from nyc.

Ian Johnson (orion), Saturday, 10 January 2004 01:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I've only seen them live a bunch of times, and they're alright, not enough to make me buy a CD.

A Nairn (moretap), Saturday, 10 January 2004 01:46 (twenty-two years ago)

One of my favorite bands of right now. They're just getting better and better with every release. I think that the next album will just kill. It seems nothing on Dischord is really hyped that much...

Matt Boch (Matt Boch), Saturday, 10 January 2004 01:53 (twenty-two years ago)

MATT BOCH!!!!!!!!!

Ian Johnson (orion), Saturday, 10 January 2004 01:54 (twenty-two years ago)

are you in Providence or Boston at the moment?

Ian Johnson (orion), Saturday, 10 January 2004 01:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I just went back and listened to these guys, after a few years. They used to be one of my favorites.

Current opinion: Good music, annoying man-girl voice.

David Allen (David Allen), Saturday, 10 January 2004 02:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I always kind of dismissed them as generic D.C. stuff but I caught them live in trio form a while back and was really impressed by their set. that "Washington Monument" song is pretty great, too.

Al (sitcom), Saturday, 10 January 2004 06:40 (twenty-two years ago)

One of my favourite bands of the last 5 years, though I've been ignoring them a bit recently - to the extent that I haven't picked the new single up yet, I have heard it's great though. On a semi similar note - how about their label mates Black Eye's? I missed them live the time they came through town, but their album on Dischord is fantastic in a percussion heavy kind of way.

MattR, Monday, 12 January 2004 12:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I'm a fan of that Black Eyes album too. Q and Not U just finished a tour with Black Eyes which I caught when it came through town... Black Eyes were really heavy. Only played one song from the album (the first song); the rest of the set was made up of these extremely skronky and uneasy sax/bass/double drums freakouts. Like Contortions/free jazz stuff with a lot of low end. Dischord has a pretty interesting roster these days as far as I'm concerned, between them, Q, and El Guapo.

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Monday, 12 January 2004 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Q & Not U CAN be good, but I dig the Elusive (a pre-Q band) more.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 12 January 2004 17:48 (twenty-two years ago)

i've genuinely enjoyed their deal. really kickass guitar playing especially on the first one. second album was a different bag of whoop, but i think it accentuated a different sound. more sparse. a little more deliberate as opposed to total attack.

if you ask me, the new pretty girls make graves or whatever sounds like a total q and not u rip off. that's my $.02.

(i agree with the dischord assessment... definitely some different bits than the stallwarts. it was actually nice to see them put out some youngerish bands... nothing against the dischord pantheon or anything, it's just that... well... it's good to see some encouragement of THOSE CRAZY KIDS AND THEIR WEIRD NEW SOUNDS!)

m.

ps oh ok, shoot me for saying "NEW"...

msp, Tuesday, 13 January 2004 04:40 (twenty-two years ago)

ten months pass...
omg I saw them last night & they were the most fun I have had at a gig for ages & the singer came on with "M.I.A." scrawled on his cheek & they covered 'galang' and I think I have a new favourite band.

the new album isn't as good as 'different damage', though. (and the album pre-diff damage sounds like generic dischord to me, not very gripping)

cis (cis), Monday, 29 November 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

shit

thats awesome about the M.I.A thing.

Hari Ashurst (Toaster), Monday, 29 November 2004 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks for posting that cis - I'm off to see them tonight, and now I'm quite looking forward to it. Haven't heard any of the new one yet, but liked the last one a fair bit.

NickB (NickB), Monday, 29 November 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

it was so good! I'm not sure how much of the audience recognised galang, was a segue from er the hospital one and everything had gone a little crazy.

The live set's pretty Different Damage-heavy: mostly all in that hyper-danceable syncopated insanely good inaudible-vocals keyboard blurps and vocoder! vein.

(I'm insanely tempted to just leg it out of town and go catch them at the brighton date before they go back to the states.)

cis (cis), Monday, 29 November 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm insanely tempted to just leg it out of town and go catch them at the brighton date before they go back to the states.

That good eh? Yay!! Well anyhow, say hello if you make it down here. Have a feeling there won't be that many folks there, it seems a little under-promoted...

NickB (NickB), Monday, 29 November 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

four years pass...

I was making some joke to a guitar bro about how there needs to be a song that only uses harmonics. The next day I listened to 'ess oh eff, tee pee why, are eh em, eye dee ess, eee vee eh, pee oh are, eh tee eee, at daylight" and realized it had been done. (For most of the song anyway.)

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Thursday, 8 January 2009 21:53 (seventeen years ago)

These guys did kill live and it was the only time I actually saw Kilby Court in DANCE ATTACK mode.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Thursday, 8 January 2009 21:54 (seventeen years ago)

Now I don't find about music like this on account of no longer having a roomie/best pal who bought everything on Dischord and DeSoto.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Thursday, 8 January 2009 21:55 (seventeen years ago)

(Beauty Pill counting as both – dude had like seven Beauty Pill shirts! And he bought me a Dismemberment Plan hoodie with a FLYING BRANE on it so that was nice too.)

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Thursday, 8 January 2009 21:56 (seventeen years ago)

their first album had some pretty slick dual-guitar jams. never really heard 'em after that.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Thursday, 8 January 2009 21:58 (seventeen years ago)

That first album was such a fucking great album. Never heard Different Damage. Their third album Power was a letdown, but has some nice songs (LAX comes to mind).

Marty Innerlogic, Friday, 9 January 2009 11:33 (seventeen years ago)

dude had like seven Beauty Pill shirts

o_O

Lurker of Challops (DJ Mencap), Friday, 9 January 2009 11:58 (seventeen years ago)

What's that Q & Not U song with the melodica in? It was an album track and a single. I liked that one

Lurker of Challops (DJ Mencap), Friday, 9 January 2009 11:59 (seventeen years ago)

that was 'soft pyramids' right?

i'm gonna break that first album out for the morning commute.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Friday, 9 January 2009 12:06 (seventeen years ago)

Different Damage is so much better than the first one, although it's oddly mixed (or at least my CD version of it is).

MacDara, Friday, 9 January 2009 13:24 (seventeen years ago)

no kill no beep beep really clicked with my impressionable indie-fed ears back in the day. the satisfaction i got out of it was somewhat similar to the sense of jubilation i felt hearing the unbridled energy and excitement of the earlier les savy fav records ('cat and the cobra' etc.). different damage was a bit slight. kind of a grower though with restrained, moody tracks and a couple of frenetic faster ones.

Charlie Howard, Friday, 9 January 2009 16:00 (seventeen years ago)

D-O-W-N and that's the way we get down!
no scissors in bed
tired of waking up
with a new haircut every morning so it's no scissors in bed

No Kill No Beep Beep sounds like Fugazi actually sort of cutting loose and having a good time.
Different Damage is my personal fave, it's so tense and minimal.
Power isn't great, just a pretty fun pop album.

Managed to see them play one of their final shows before they disbanded--it was a great time, the audience was just one big sweaty dancing grinning mess.

telepathy_rock!, Friday, 9 January 2009 17:52 (seventeen years ago)

I put on Different Damage at work one night and one of my many dipshit coworkers said, "You're alright and all but you sure listen to some gay-ass shit."

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Friday, 9 January 2009 19:23 (seventeen years ago)

different damage is a masterpiece, the other two albums never quite did it for me apart from a couple of songs.

what was the lineup @ the kilby show, abbott? q and not u/black eyes/antelope? if so, i was at that show too, really fun

6335, Friday, 9 January 2009 20:36 (seventeen years ago)

C/D: Q and not U
TL;DR
but WS

ichard Thompson (Hurting 2), Friday, 9 January 2009 20:40 (seventeen years ago)

not worth discussing past no kill no beep beep, once they lost matt borlique things got ok but relatively lame. will still rock we heart our hive.

their practice house was next to mine in high school, never realized it was them though, just called it "that band house"

fauxmarc, Friday, 9 January 2009 21:35 (seventeen years ago)

so upon revisiting, No Kill is still the JAM. I always wish I played guitar in a band that sounded like that.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Saturday, 10 January 2009 00:30 (seventeen years ago)

Yep 6335. We drove from Boise to get there and ended up running over a fox on the way down. ;_;

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Saturday, 10 January 2009 02:34 (seventeen years ago)

It kind of makes me happy that I can say Kilby Court and someone knows wtf I'm talking about. What's the name of that place on 9th & 9th? I saw Sonic Youth there in...'04? '05? Do you know where I'm talking about?

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Saturday, 10 January 2009 02:36 (seventeen years ago)

It is a relatively recently new place.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Saturday, 10 January 2009 02:36 (seventeen years ago)

9th and 9th by where the coffee garden, tower theatre and salt city cd's was? i'm sorta confused, i thought sonic youth had only been through here once since the whole REM tour fiasco and they played w/ wolf eyes @ in the venue which is down on 200 s. and 600 w. unless i missed something ;_;

6335, Saturday, 10 January 2009 07:07 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

Listening to the debut by Title Tracks, the new project by John Davis since Georgie James fell apart. It starts off pretty decent, but I don't feel like it really holds up over the whole runtime. Kinda like the Springsteen cover, but not sold on the Byrds cover. Obviously no patch on Q and Not U, but thats obviously not the point either.

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 25 January 2010 23:56 (sixteen years ago)

eight months pass...

Ryan Little of the Washington City Paper looks back at the band and the people in the photo on the debut album

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2010/10/18/catching-up-with-no-kill-no-beep-beep-day-1-exotic-fever/

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2010/10/19/catching-up-with-no-kill-no-beep-beep-day-2-resin-records/#more-32925

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 18:17 (fifteen years ago)

Great idea for a feature; thanks for posting it.

She Got the Shakes, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago)

dude from this band works at the manhattan branch of the record store. cool & nice guy.

not everything is a campfire (ian), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 22:33 (fifteen years ago)

Another dude from the band, Chris Richards, is the Washington Post's music critic.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 22:40 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2011/12/19/john-davis-and-chris-richards-collaboration-not-just-a-one-off/

These 2 playing as a duo tonight

Insect Factory, Alma Tropicália, and Chris Richards and John Davis (formerly of Q & Not U). The latter will be playing some new—yes, new!—songs. 8 p.m. at 3309 Bunker Hill Road, Mt. Rainier. $7-$12.

curmudgeon, Friday, 2 March 2012 20:44 (fourteen years ago)


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