artists you didn't like/hated until one album/song turned you around on them 180 degrees

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Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 12 January 2004 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

"Cold,Cold Ground" on Frank's Wild Years completely changed my impression of Tom Waits, turning me from detractor into fan.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 12 January 2004 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

really? what was it about that song?

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 12 January 2004 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I think I just found it rather surprisingly poignant. Prior to that, I'd (wrongly) assumed he was just all bizarre-o schtick.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 12 January 2004 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Does that have Keith Richards on it?
I know "Downtown Train" does, and I think (I haven't actually listened to Waits for about 7 years, but was, up to that point, a strident fan) most of his really good songs in that vein up to and incl Bone Machine, sorta waltzy, sorta torchy, have guit by Keith.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 12 January 2004 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

A tie "Paint Work" and "Spoilt Victorian Child" by the Fall....these aren't necessarily any better or worse than a lot of Fall songs, but for me liking the Fall was kinda like one of those old "Magic Eye" 3D pictures from the mid-90s....like I tried and tried to like the fall (ie staring trying to unfocus my eyes on a Magic Eye poster), and then suddenly - POW - something burst out of the picture in 3D and the whole mess totally came into focus and I suddenly thought Mark E Smith was a genius....

PS Keith is on "That Feel" from Bone Machine by Waits

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 12 January 2004 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

R. Kelly, top 5 most hated artists, until I heard the glory of Fiesta, and I've been busy getting his back catalogue ever since..

Baaderist (Fabfunk), Monday, 12 January 2004 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)

"Be Careful" by Sparkle brought me into the R Kelly fold, then "I Wish" reconfirmed.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 12 January 2004 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think Keef played on "Cold Cold Ground". That songs a weeper, lemme tell ya.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 12 January 2004 17:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I was not a fan of Jimi Hendrix whatsoever until the combined setting of A) LSD in body, B) "Third Stone From the Sun" on stereo. I went instantly from vaguely annoyed by what I considered overratedness to total obsession. I owned his proper studio albums within days.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 12 January 2004 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Pulp, "Common People"

That might not seem so strange, but it was just 2003 that I changed my ways. I'd heard most of the records countless times (including "Common People") through friends, but one day I just decided life was too short for all that hate and I switched it to love (with the help of actually paying attention lyrics other than those in the chorus).

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 12 January 2004 17:56 (twenty-two years ago)

"Down Low" turned me into an R. Kelly fan. "I Believe I Can Fly" turned me completely off. "Fiesta" turned me back on. "Ignition (Remix)" turned me right back off. Overall the man is crap but WOW what a great voice.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 12 January 2004 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

okay, Keef is not on "Cold, Cold Ground" not on that album at all.
But David Hidalgo (of Los Lobos) plays accordian.
Shit. Now I really wanna go and listen to every Tom Waits album I've ever gotten rid of. I sold them in the mid-90s when I was hard up and knew I would get a premium for them, since people like them and rightly so.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 12 January 2004 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

i listened to heartattack and vine a few nights ago -- great record that i've unjustly neglected over the years. i was drunk enough that i had a "moment" during "jersey girl."

jody (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 12 January 2004 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I had written off Belle and Sebastian as awful twee fops, then I heard the title cut from "If You're Feeling Sinister" and realized they're not awful, just twee fops. And their new one is in heavy rotation as well.

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 12 January 2004 18:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I've recently come around with Belle and Sebastian too, when I payed attention and realized their songs weren't actually about unicorns prancing through fields of flowers.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 12 January 2004 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Aren't most of them about moping around in a sweater?

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 12 January 2004 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I was a dire rockist and hated all hiphop until, oddly enough, I heard "60 Second Wipeout" by Atari Teenage Riot and was forced to admit that vocals needn't be melodic for a song to kick ass. of course, atari teenage riot isn't hip hop at all, but it was a huge step in the right direction at the time.

Felcher (Felcher), Monday, 12 January 2004 18:16 (twenty-two years ago)

i was drunk enough that i had a "moment"
during "jersey girl."

you mean you peed yourself?

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 12 January 2004 18:19 (twenty-two years ago)

that came later

jody (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 12 January 2004 18:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Also I saw Califone live several years ago and was bored silly, then I heard Quicksand/Cradlesnakes and realized what an idiot I was, since they're fantastic.

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 12 January 2004 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Actualyl Dan, most of them seem to be about wanking over vicars.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 12 January 2004 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Bah, Morrissey did that better in 1985.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 12 January 2004 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I hated The Stone Roses until I was 15, when I actually listened to "She Bangs The Drums" rather than just heard it come outm of my brother's bedroom (which is all I had heard of them when I was ten).

X-post; True.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 12 January 2004 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought I hated all 'dance' music until I heard "The Girl With The Sun In Her Head" by Orbital. Slippery slope, eh?

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 12 January 2004 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I dodged dance music until I heard Underworld via "Second Toughest in the Infants", which still is one of my three favorite albums.

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 12 January 2004 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

ehehehehe... I bought that like a week later...

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 12 January 2004 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I fuckin' HATED Justin Timberlake......until I heard "Cry Me A River," which is a beautifully crafted slice of slightly malevolent pop. I think the real credit for that should goto Timbaland, but whatever.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 00:06 (twenty-two years ago)

i fuckin' HATED no doubt......until i heard "simple kind of life," which is a beautifully crafted slice of slightly warped pop. and timbaland and the neptunes didn't get involved in their career till later on, so they get full credit. and i would now rate them a pretty great pop band.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 00:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I seesawed ridiculously on Daft Punk: loved Homework, gradually stopped listening to it, inexplicably grew to hate them for lord knows whatever reason, went "phblt" at "One More Time", then BLA-DOW: "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger" and "Aerodynamic". France declares war on my headphones; America surrenders.

Gary Numan + shouty blokes + shuffle-skank beats = allasudden I like me some Basement Jaxx (this applied retroactively, too; did a total 180 on "Red Alert")

"I wonder if Green Day are as loathsome as I decided they were in my senior year of high school. Hrm. 'Brain Stew'? Don't think I know that one..."

nate detritus (natedetritus), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 01:51 (twenty-two years ago)

in the not-too-distant past, i realized that i liked post-low-life new order after slagging it for years. i think that's because when it first came out, i had a hard time differentiating it from other dance-y music -- since the late eighties are long past us, and the truly mediocre dancey-crud that infested the mainstream airways then is deservedly dead i was able to hear what was good in the later new order stuff. i think that it was listening to substance for the first time in almost a decade that did it.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 02:27 (twenty-two years ago)

The Who: as a young teen, I hated 'em and was happy that they were embarking on their *cough* farewell tour. But that was just because the only stuff of theirs I'd heard was their then-recent late-period crap, from "Squeeze Box" thru "You Better You Bet" - having no older siblings nor exposure to Classic Rock radio prevented me from hearing their older, MUCH better material. Then I heard "I Can See For Miles" (still their best EVER, sez me) and realized that I had been missing out! 180-degree reversal (although I still dislike 'most everything after "Quadrophenia").

Scott Bloomfield, Tuesday, 13 January 2004 06:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Le Tigre - Decepticon

autovac (autovac), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 08:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I've heard similar stories to M@tts above about the Fall many times. One friend described it as all of a sudden being able to understand Smith, prior to that it seemed he'd been speaking a different language.

rw, Tuesday, 13 January 2004 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

The Smiths - From the first note of "William it was Really Nothing" to the end of side 1 of Hatful of Hollow, I was in open-mouthed awe at the genius that lay before me. Before that, I just thought they were whiny, no-tune boremerchants.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

The Manics were whiney self-indulgent twats who talked it much better than they walked it until I heard Motorcycle Emptiness and changed my mind. When I heard most of This is My Truth Tell Me Yours I changed it back again. I still like most of the stuff in the middle though so I guess that doesn't count.

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

i think i'm experiencing this right now. i blame my friend Fiona and "Special K." i think this is the root of all evil. see this thread. yes.

janni (janni), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 18:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Primal Scream, "Movin' On Up"

I never understood all the love, until I was about to take an afternoon siesta and Screamadelica came up on iTunes, and everything just clicked.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 05:15 (twenty-two years ago)

sunship: try me out.

actually i quite liked the mellow d'n'b incarnation of sunship but i was all fcken uk fcken garridge and bandwagon jumpers and
FUCK ME.not just the artist, the whole 2step thing...

mullygrubber (gaz), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 09:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Pulp "Common People", but specifically a performance of it on Jools Holland.

Still don't like them enough to actually own any of their records, but that was when I realised what they were actually trying to do - as opposed to thinking they were faux-ironic, contrived rubbish.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 09:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I did not like Björk at all, the kooky little fruitcake...until I watched Dancer In The Dark and she spoke the words, "I don't want a boyfriend..." That was it, fell in love, bought just about the whole back catalogue. "I've Seen It All" from that film probably didn't help either, it is incredible...

Rory, Wednesday, 14 January 2004 11:47 (twenty-two years ago)

can't say that i hated Japan, but i never really gave them a proper listen after looking at the gentlemen take polaroids album cover and deciding that mr. sylvain looked a little too ... um, "effeminate." that was when i was a teen. this past year, i managed to get me hands on gentlemen take polaroids (as well as quiet life and tin drum) and found out what such misplaced teenaged homophobia had deprived me of. i.e., those records are GREAT!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 15 January 2004 00:23 (twenty-two years ago)

"Father of Mine" made me like Everclear. I'd never liked Everclear. Pinkerton made me like Weezer. I'd never liked Weezer. The King James Version made me like Harvey Danger. I'd never liked Harvey Danger. I had some serious late-90's alterna-pop turnarounds.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 15 January 2004 00:34 (twenty-two years ago)

i went off PJ Harvey after her first album but "good fortune" turned me back again. although i still don't like the two albums prior to "stories from the city"

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 15 January 2004 00:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Pixies- Velouria
Velvet Underground- Sister Ray
Clash- (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Thursday, 15 January 2004 00:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Spacemen 3- Rollercoaster cover (single version)

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Thursday, 15 January 2004 00:38 (twenty-two years ago)


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