The 90s Thread

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Inspired by Matos' comment that Grand Royal is the reason why sensible people hate the 90s.

Whole purpose of this thread is to discuss the 90s - anything at all.

Somethings to consider:

What are the movements that helped define the 90s that are now hated:
eg in the UK 90s = Britpop, In USA 90s = Grand Royal and associates.

To avoid this being a hate thread

Who would you say defined the 90s as a decade?
We has Presley in the 50s, Beatles in the 60s, Bowie in the 70s and Prince in the 80s - Who was their equivalent?

Jedmond, Wednesday, 14 January 2004 03:04 (twenty-two years ago)

The Eagles.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 03:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Kennedy.

Scott Warner (thream), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 03:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Prince in the '80s?

daavid, Wednesday, 14 January 2004 03:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate to admit it: Kurt Cobain.

daavid, Wednesday, 14 January 2004 03:24 (twenty-two years ago)

This is stoopid.

Hmmm, Wednesday, 14 January 2004 03:25 (twenty-two years ago)

MC Hammer

Hmmm, Wednesday, 14 January 2004 03:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd have to grudgingly go Radiohead, if only because they share so many parallels with Bowie.

Radiohead has first hit with Creep off their inconsistent first album Pablo Honey and are associated with grunge.
Bowie has first hit with Space Oddity off his inconsistent first album and is associated with folk/psychadelica.
Both acts are writtten off as one hit wonders.
Radiohead have hit with consisten album The Bends and are associated with grunge backlash movement britpop.
Bowie has hit with consistent album Ziggy Stardust and is associated with folk/psychadelica backlash movement glam.
Both acts move on to release a series of albums heavily influenced by experimental music.
Both acts release career summing albums, Bowie with Scary Monsters, and Radiohead with Hail to the Thief.

I have to admit that I love where this is leading to for Radiohead.

I also admit that there are a couple of million holes you can find in this analogy, so please don't waste your time.

Jedmond, Wednesday, 14 January 2004 03:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I have to admit that I love where this is leading to for Radiohead.

Starring on Broadway in The Elephant Man?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 03:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I was actually thinking or Let's Dance and his following career, but I'll take them doing a musical version of The Elephant Man.

I'm not going to argue with you on Bowie Mr. Raggett, especially since after writing the above post I went to all music guide and noticed your song capsules on Bowie. Instead i'll go downstairs and listen to Stay and Look Back in Anger.

Jedmond, Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:04 (twenty-two years ago)

"You KNOW who I am HE SAID!"

That might actually be one of the greatest opening lines ever. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Beck

sym (shmuel), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 08:05 (twenty-two years ago)

limp bizkit

Jay Kid (Jay K), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 10:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Beck, Bjork, Massive Attack

Baaderist (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 10:43 (twenty-two years ago)

CK One

kephm, Wednesday, 14 January 2004 12:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the 90s is getting the same hate/remembered for the bad things in the same way the 80s was ten years ago

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

But I've never experienced a decade change over as an adult, it actually hasn't seemed as if the 90s isn't as hated by 00s as the 80s was hated by the 90s.

There seemed to be such a sharp divide between synthetic 80s and the grunge explosion that happened in 91.

Jedmond, Wednesday, 14 January 2004 13:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Finish this Early 90's Compilation....

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

It won't be remembered as The Decade That Style Forgot! as both the seventies and the eighties were. There wasn't coherent visible style. I mean, you can despise flannel & plaid, but can you really hate them?

I agree that there isn't An Artist, but that's not new. I mean, seriously, Prince?

spanning set: Nirvana, Pulp, Oasis, Beastie Boys, Radiohead, Underworld, Fatboy Slim, Massive Attack

More specifically the first three/four, as an answer to the question "Who will kids be dressing up as in 2020 for the 90s flashback party?"

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)

There seemed to be such a sharp divide between synthetic 80s and the grunge explosion that happened in 91.
Or of course, back in the real world, the other way 'round: between the rocking '80s (SY-Replacements-Pixies-Dinosaur Jr) and the dance/pop explosion of the early nineties...

Vasquesz, Wednesday, 14 January 2004 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the 90s is getting the same hate/remembered for the bad things in the same way the 80s was ten years ago
Exactly right. 10 years ago I couldn't be stopped screaming 'Dead Or Alive!' or 'Toto!' whenever anyone said something positive about the eighties.
But of course that's like saying the nineties were shit because of Hootie and the Blowfish.
And don't the noughties suck already? I mean: Puddle of Mudd!
You know what I mean.

Vasquesz, Wednesday, 14 January 2004 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)

90's saw a couple big changes for music:

1- Hip-hop becoming a major force in mainstream music with newcomers such as Dr. Dre, Snoop Dog, Notorious BIG, Wu-Tang Clan, Tupac, etc..

Though most likely everyone will continue ripping on the early 90's dance stuff like Vanilla Ice & MC Hammer, maybe less so for Young MC and Tone Loc - but that was more a carry-over from the 80's (all but Vanilla had already released hits before 1990).


2- The beginning of underground electronics making the shift from clubs & parties to bedrooms & coffee shops. Artists like Aphex Twin, Autechre, Squarepusher, The Orb, Bjork, and from the "trip-hop" camps of MoWax/Shadow/NinjaTune records we had Portishead, DJ Shadow, DJ Krush, Tricky, Massive Attack, and lots more..

pete from the street, Wednesday, 14 January 2004 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)

NEDS ATOMIC DUSTBIN

Chris V (Chris V), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, add NWA to the list. No-one from Warp, though. They'll be as well known as Giorgio Moroder.

Shamefaced Andrew (afarrell), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Pete OTM.
There's a nice thread on 90's aesthetics on ILE, but I don't know how to link...

Baaderist (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

copy the thread URL and paste it into a message. the thread's title comes up in blue ink

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

aha, thanks! back in a sec...

Baaderist (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Et voila...

The Nineties Revival

Baaderist (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)

For the UK, I would think that Fierce Panda's influence on bands that made it was quite clear through the decade.

___ (___), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

six years pass...

Blessid Union of Souls has my new favorite banner ad:

http://blessidu.com/images/banners/bookbanner.jpg

how is abbott formed (Abbott), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 23:57 (sixteen years ago)

It looks even more half-assed in context!

how is abbott formed (Abbott), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 23:58 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B93Tir6l5FA

For whatever reason this video, to me, is like looking at the early-90s music video aesthetic and the late-90s aesthetic kiss.

Cunga, Friday, 5 April 2013 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe it's because this song and video could've been realized at any point in the 90s that makes it look like a mixture of different mini-eras.

Cunga, Friday, 5 April 2013 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

Did anyone care enough about grand royal for it to be hated? I liked the magazine pretty well.

how's life, Friday, 5 April 2013 22:52 (thirteen years ago)


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