Has anybody heard Pussy Galore's cover of Exile on Main Street? C/D?

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Is it any good? I mean, at all? I ask this 'cause the cassette just went for about sixty bucks on eBay, and so my natural reaction is, "Wow, an album must be pretty damn good if somebody would play that much money just for the friggin' CASSETTE!"

So who's heard it? Anyone?

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 04:29 (twenty-two years ago)

The few tracks I've heard (on the Corpse Love comp) are basically what you'd expect. They're funny and noisy, but I wouldn't pay $60 for the tape if I were you.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 04:32 (twenty-two years ago)

For a piss-take, it's actually rather listenable. Not worth $60 though.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 04:37 (twenty-two years ago)

So, none of the songs top the Stones' versions, then? Damn. 'Cause a lo-fi uinderground band covering Exile sounds like a really cool idea. If there was ever a band that revelled in the scuzzy druggy vibe that Jon Spencer and co. dig so much, it's the Stones.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 04:37 (twenty-two years ago)

It's only good because of the 'Hag. Fuck Spencer.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 04:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I DLed almost half of it off Slsk (up through "Loving Cup"). A lot of it's just barely listenable or coherent, still fun to listen to as noise.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 04:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Some of it is on the Corpse Love CD compilation, which I find mostly unlistenable (meaning, I don't want to listen to it, as opposed to being too extreme). The one hilarious part of that CD is the interview part where the band is asked what they're all about and Julie responds, completely seriously, "we're about... 'fuck you, man'.. yeah, just 'fuck you'.". (Not as funny as the earnest middle finger shot inside the cover of Right Now).

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 04:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Julia Carfitz is an idiot

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 04:58 (twenty-two years ago)

She's bright enough for a 13 year old who just got grounded

― Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 05:46 (twenty-two years ago)

>'Cause a lo-fi underground band covering Exile sounds like a really cool idea.

You have just explained why it's going for $60 on eBay.

And yes, the cassette starts pig-noisy and hog-sloppy and goes downhill from there.

The whole thing is a Theory Project. "We're gonna perform the foggy memory of EXILE, all scuzz and fuzz, like the whole band falling down stairs, playing outta-tune instruments." Concept is free and you get all the fun you want out of it.

Pay money, and you might feel compelled to listen to it sometimes and ruin everything.

― Dock Miles (Dock Miles), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 08:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Didn't they only have between them one fuckedly scratched copy Jon found on the street or something? The whole PG thing was pretty irritating, I like them all a lot better post-it

― Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 08:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I was very amused by a story a friend told me about seeing PG supporting Swans in London during which Julia K took a 5 minute 'swearing solo' in the middle of one of the songs, class...

― mzui, Tuesday, 20 January 2004 09:02 (twenty-two years ago)

i have it. i'm glad that i have it from an asshole completist point of view, but i never listen to it - it's just not that great - and certainly wouldn't recommend paying $60 for it.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 13:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Julia Carfitz is an idiot

Doesn't she teach high school in NYC these days?

It's definitely not worth $60. I got it off Napster years ago, so I assume it would still be readily available to make into a CD for the cost of a blank CDR. The cover of "Rocks Off" is good, but it really goes downhill after that (though the stuff on Corpse Love is alright). I put it on for the first time since I burned it the other day, and it's really hard to make it through most of the songs.

― Vic Funk, Tuesday, 20 January 2004 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I have a boot (got it fer free!) and I think I've listened to it once. I'm glad I have it, cuz otherwise the fetishist in me would want it.

But spend sixty dollars on the last three Neil Michael Hagerty discs instead (or just the last one, which is head & shoulders above the others).

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I heard that PG had to borrow the sheet music from Thurston Moore so that they cld find out what the lyrics were

I've def. seen a semi-legit CD copy of the whole thing (on sale in London's Selectadisc maybe 2 years ago), and I used to have a vinyl copy of the first two sides, complete w/ pastiche cover. All I really remember is that Julia Carfitz goes off on a FANTASTIC sweary rant towards the end of side one - "I hate this fucking studio, this fucking shit, this fucking band, this fucking record, this fucking 'idea'" etc. etc., I think she's a genius.

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

the Corpse Love CD compilation, which I find mostly unlistenable

aw. i think it's fantastic if a bit too long for one sitting.

(and it's cafritz, not carfitz.)

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I heard that PG had to borrow the sheet music from Thurston Moore so that they cld find out what the lyrics were

the party line (courtesy Spencer's notes in Corpse Love) is that Hagerty was the only one who knew the album and had to teach it to the rest of the band track by track as they went along. The SY connection is that PG recorded Exile in response to SY's oft-touted plans to record the Beatles' "White Album" in its entirety.

I've def. seen a semi-legit CD copy of the whole thing (on sale in London's Selectadisc maybe 2 years ago), and I used to have a vinyl copy

Now you're lying. The only official release EVER was on cassette, and was limited to 500 copies.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

It's a piece of shit, a bad joke that was never funny to begin with. And I'm really not convinced that Pussy Galore's entire catalog is much more than that, either.

― don weiner, Tuesday, 20 January 2004 16:22 (twenty-two years ago)

The fact that it was sold for $60 doesn't mean its any good, just means the person who paid for it has more money than sense.

no record is worth that much.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I think during the JSBX's heyday it was going for a lot more than that even.
Its value is largely in its collectibility.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

i have the mp3s. it's fun, but after hearing the fiery furnaces record, i wish they'd gotten the idea first.

― the bent fabric (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)

The best Pussy Galore release ever is the posthumous live record on In The Red, which sounds 10 x better than any of their studio records.

The next best record, actually, is "La Histora De La Musica Rock", where it's basically two halfs of a Spencer and Haggerty solo album each, which shows both of them at their height, IMHO.

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

(OK, "Cats and Dogs" by the Trux, as one of a few examples, is better than the "La Historia" stuff, but as for Spencer stuff, it pretty much was the blueprint for the first Blues Explosion album (i.e. the only one I'll still listen to))

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I like Sugarshit Sharp, mainly for the Einsturezende Neubauten cover, with it's liberel Flav sampling. Rap rock starts here, buddy!
Or not. I don't know.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Me and some friends went to see them live back in Detroit in '87 or '88, when they put this thing out, and we kept yelling out songs from *Appetite for Destruction* (a better album than *Exile,* as are quite a few Stones albums), but for some reason they didn't sing any.

On the other hand: Their *Exile* is WAAAY better than any Jon Spencer Blues Explosion album. Not as good as Groovy Hate Fuck or Right Now, though. Or the one with "Yu Gung" on it. Or some other PG albums, but I forget what they were called.

― chuck, Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:31 (twenty-two years ago)

>>Rap rock starts here, buddy!<<

Actually, that was a few years after the Beastie Boys and Run DMC.

Not to mention "Let it All Hang Out" by the Hombres or whatever.

― chuck, Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I know.
But in terms of schlocky rock-first rap-rock, it's a document of some early leaning toward something that Limp Bizkit also reached for (Golden Apple? Hot Fudge Sundae? My mittens on a string?). That really testosterone, hey-hey look at me, I'm badass puerile quality.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:35 (twenty-two years ago)

>really testosterone, hey-hey look at me, I'm badass puerile quality.<

So which part of this DOESN'T apply to *Licensed to Ill*???

― chuck, Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

but License to Ill doesn't have the guitar-as-wang factor going for it (at least not from the principals).

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Pussy Galore are, IMHO, great for influencing great bands as opposed to having been a great band themselves. Pussy Galore's sound is great, but runs its course after almost any three songs of their catalog. (And then again, you can argue that Pussy Galore were basically ripping on Sudden-penned Swell Maps songs and early Nikki Sudden.. that song "New York" practically invented Pussy Galore and a hell of a lot of sonicly charge garage rock bands)

A lot of In The Red artists, as well as some folks on Dirtnap, like The Cripples and The A-Frames (though obviously the latter two have contributed their own originality and other inspirations as well) are Pussy Galore influenced, which is part of their greatness.

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not fucking lying (abt the CD/vinyl issues I've seen/heard.) And yeah, I know all abt the Whitey alb/Exile connec, but I def. read an int w/ either Spencer or Hag where they mentioned the sheet music loan from TM.

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

AMG REVIEW: If you can find a copy of this cassette-only release, by all means hold on to it for dear life, because
the likelihood if it being re-released officially is slimmer than the chance of a band like Pussy Galore ever coming
along again (that not necessarily being a bad thing depending on who you poll). While the group had covered the
Jagger/Richards tune "Turd on the Run," the Rolling Stones got the ultimate send-up on Exile on Main Street, a
track-for-track retelling of their classic 1972 double album. The cassette-only release was almost drowning in hiss and
noise, and several tunes were so deconstructed you couldn't tell what they were, as if the group was making fun of the
myth surrounding the Stones' Exile as celebrating the music itself, but truly an adventure in listening. -- John Duffy

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

the term "cassette-only" appears TWICE.

I'm not saying CD/LP version don't exist, but they're not even close to legit.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

there was a bootleg on CD-r being sold four or so years ago. i got mine from a certain mailorder operated by a person with teeth similar to baked beans. it is what it is -- a fun little one off thing. but then maybe i enjoy it more than i should since my English boss is obsessed by the rolling stones.

― jack cole (jackcole), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

There were a couple of bootleg vinyl versions of Exile. I sold mine to Venus records on St. Marks long ago.

Dial "M" is a pretty great album that stands on its own merits (i.e. you don't need to care about the band's attitude, etc.). Fantastic drumming and actual songs everywhere you look. The recording quality is fine (no bass because they didn't have a bass) and some of the guitar playing is surprisingly great, and the group is pretty tight (lots of stops/starts pulled off in unison).

The original Dial M CD on Caroline comes with the Yu Gung b-sides. Might be a smart buy if it's selling cheaply.

― dlp9001, Tuesday, 20 January 2004 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Looking at a pretty gd PG discog

http://www.grunnenrocks.nl/index.html?bands/p/pussygal.htm

it seems that the vinyl copy I owned and the CD I saw were indeed bootlegs, but that Shove Records, who issued the original complete cassette version, also brought out a complete (and presumably as 'legit') vinyl edition at the same time - so "cassette-only" is inaccurate, not matter how many fuckin' times the AMG sez otherwise.

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Point conceded. I'll take Grunnen Rocks word, I haven't visited that site in a long time, thanks for reminding me.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I have to say, as for databases of hardcore/punk music, Grunnenrocks has been one of the best sites, especially given the difficult task of managing the rather mutable nature of hardcore/punk band discographies. (and of course, they still miss certain things, but they're better than most)

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

www.fuzzlogic.com is also great for that too.

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I've always liked Pussy Galore. It's scummy and sorta evil-sounding and abrasive but then funny and wild at the same time. And some of Hagerty and Spencer's guitar playing really is pretty stunning, the riffs are so loopy and just wrong sometimes I marvel at how they came up with them. Agreed that Historia de la Musica and Dial M are the best - the Exile stuff on Corpse Love indicate that the project was, as several people noted, entertaining but hardly mind-blowing or worth tons of money.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 20 January 2004 20:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Totally agree about the weird riffs. I think that all of the "fuck you" histrionics kind of obscured the fact that the band was doing some really cool stuff musically, esp. on the later releases.

― dlp9001, Tuesday, 20 January 2004 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

...wish I'd heard it 15 yrs ago, when I still liked PG and "Exile" both.

Same deal with the Replacements' "The Shit Hits The Fans," to which I am today equally indifferent to.

― Scott, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 17:09 (twenty-two years ago)

three years pass...

Current bid: US http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320098130682&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:1210.77
End time: 23 mins 38 secs (Apr-04-07 17:02:17 PDT)
HURRY!

― Mike Dixn, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 23:46 (nineteen years ago)

fuck, i used to have that tape. we sold 'em at the store i worked at, see hear; sure wish i still had it!

seems an awful lot for a poorly dubbed tape but who am i to deny the pleasures of the idle rich? they must have their pigfuck!!!

― Mike McGooney-gal, Thursday, 5 April 2007 00:34 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

I have the 10"/the LP(incomplete)/the CD(full cover version) and an unmixed alternate version

― almudeno, Wednesday, 5 November 2008 22:51 (seventeen years ago)

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