Standards , Folk Songs etc

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When does a song devolp such a reputiton it becomes part of a cannon or repitore ?

anthony, Monday, 15 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

When people no longer understand it or remember it exactly, but they can still stumble through it, given the chance?

Nude Spock, Monday, 15 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Folk songs start off as news/political bulletins and become standards when the events described in the song are far enough away from most people's memories that they're no longer controversial.

dave q, Monday, 15 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Anyone remember Naked Gun where Leslie (dumb cop guy) is pretending he's Pavaroti and sings the National Anthem for the beginning of a baseball game? ... Lots of bombs in the air
Gave proof through the night that we still had our flag
Oh say does our spangled banner wave
O'er the land of the home-- and the home of the free.

That always cracks me up. That and the pee scene where he's peein' forever with the microphone still attatched to him.

Nude Spock, Monday, 15 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This is such a good question. I have no idea what the answers are. (like, when did "ma&241;ana" become recital material at my elementary school? that's just weird. especially alongside "red red robin".)

Tracer Hand, Monday, 15 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Another interpretation of Dave Q's post is that folk songs begin as works of left-wing radicalism and are misappropriated by the traditionalist right when everyone has forgotten what they are about.

Robin Carmody, Monday, 15 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

twenty-four years pass...

Is there a song older than Cotton Eye Joe that is still popular? I just watched a bunch of kids dancing to an electronic version of this jam that is over 170 years old

Cow_Art, Saturday, 18 April 2026 16:49 (one month ago)

Apart from nursery rhymes you mean?

Clarinet Cop (Tom D.), Saturday, 18 April 2026 16:56 (one month ago)

"Greensleeves" comes to mind. That's from 1580 at the latest.

There's a bunch of Stephen Foster songs from the 1850s that are still beloved, such as "Camptown Races," "Old Folks at Home" (aka "Swanee River"), and "My Old Kentucky Home." Foster's "Oh! Susanna" goes back to the 1840s.

Josefa, Saturday, 18 April 2026 19:31 (one month ago)

The lyrics of "My Old Kentucky Home" have to be tweaked, mind you

Josefa, Saturday, 18 April 2026 19:43 (one month ago)

Beethoven's Fifth is over 200 years old, dance versions of which (Walter Murphy, Robin Thicke) can still reliably fill the floor.

henry s, Saturday, 18 April 2026 19:45 (one month ago)

"Auld Lang Syne" has been around for a while and seems as popular as ever.

Clarinet Cop (Tom D.), Saturday, 18 April 2026 19:49 (one month ago)

A host of Christmas carols, of course

Josefa, Saturday, 18 April 2026 19:51 (one month ago)

I guess I'm thinking of popular music. Songs that kids know and get excited about and they don't even realize it's old.

Beethoven's Fifth is a good one.

Cow_Art, Saturday, 18 April 2026 19:53 (one month ago)

Korobeiniki feels like it will be covered and remixed forever. There was a huge hit in Japan last year, I think, based on it.

ShariVari, Saturday, 18 April 2026 20:04 (one month ago)

Chopin's Prelude No. 4, written in the 1830s, has been interpolated into numerous popular music contexts. Wikipedia has a long list of them:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prelude,_Op._28,_No._4_(Chopin)

Josefa, Saturday, 18 April 2026 20:22 (one month ago)

Pachelbel's Canon, 300+ years old.

Clarinet Cop (Tom D.), Saturday, 18 April 2026 20:32 (one month ago)

arirang, the unofficial national folk song of both koreas, beloved by literally every single person who's ever been anywhere near south or north korea, not to mention every single person who's ever even thought about k-pop, is generally believed to be 600 years old (though some historians, to be fair, think it may be only about 300 years old).

fact checking cuz, Monday, 20 April 2026 15:39 (one month ago)


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