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I wish I could say I'm not looking forward to hearing this. But the best parts of GnR (Slash and Izzy) plus Weiland? Might be pretty rockin'!!

Come on, ILM, admit it - you're psyched. Or at least curious. Yes?

roger adultery, Monday, 19 April 2004 23:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd never even heard of this until now. It sounds terrifying, frankly.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 19 April 2004 23:24 (twenty-two years ago)

like Audioslave, I'm pissed that these bands keep resurrecting lame-o '90s twats rather than getting Rod Stewart to sing lead. Mutherfuckers could be getting their Faces on rather than their STP on.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 19 April 2004 23:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, I dunno. STP's second album is better than anything Rod has done the past 15 years (maybe more)

I think Weiland is a perfectly capable, at times very decent, rock singer

roger adultery, Monday, 19 April 2004 23:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Rod just needs the right back-up band and I think he'd snap right back into form. His vocal performances on singles throughout the 80s and 90s were great. Plus I'd like to see the inevitable brain explosions that would be caused by a Rod Stewart/GNR or Rod Stewart/RATM hook-up.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 19 April 2004 23:52 (twenty-two years ago)

The name "Velvet Revolver" makes me want to destroy everything I own that is in any way rock-related.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Monday, 19 April 2004 23:56 (twenty-two years ago)

"Velvet Revolutionary" would have kicked ass though

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 19 April 2004 23:58 (twenty-two years ago)

ive heard it. its ok.

Pablo Cruise (chaki), Monday, 19 April 2004 23:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Izzy is not in this band. Which makes me far less excited to hear it, but interested nontheless.

Mark M, Tuesday, 20 April 2004 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)

well, there goes at least 70% of the appeal to me.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 01:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Is Duff?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 02:49 (twenty-two years ago)

It's Duff, Slash, Matt Sorum, some other guy, and Weiland.
They did the theme song for the Hulk movie and a cover of Pink Floyd's 'Money' for The Italian Job, I think.
They're playing a new song on the radio. "Oh, this must be the new GNR-Weiland thing" is as strong a reaction I can muster.

Mike Dixon, Tuesday, 20 April 2004 04:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I just saw an ad with the picture of the band, and couldn't i.d. Weiland. I'm sad to learn that he wasn't Phil Lewis.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 23:54 (twenty-two years ago)

three weeks pass...
Hmmm. I want to like this, but so far, the video just isn't doing much for me.

Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Monday, 17 May 2004 02:31 (twenty-two years ago)

they should replace Weiland with...

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 17 May 2004 02:56 (twenty-two years ago)

...Crispin Glover

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 17 May 2004 02:56 (twenty-two years ago)

...Danny Aiello

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 17 May 2004 02:57 (twenty-two years ago)

...Strongo Hulkington

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 17 May 2004 02:57 (twenty-two years ago)

...David Johansen

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 17 May 2004 02:57 (twenty-two years ago)

...John McCain

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 17 May 2004 02:57 (twenty-two years ago)

...Vince Neil

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 17 May 2004 02:59 (twenty-two years ago)

...Gary Cherone

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 17 May 2004 02:59 (twenty-two years ago)

...Stephanie Seymour

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 17 May 2004 02:59 (twenty-two years ago)

...a dolphin

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 17 May 2004 02:59 (twenty-two years ago)

(I'll stop now)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 17 May 2004 03:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks.

Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Monday, 17 May 2004 03:08 (twenty-two years ago)

let's hope they choke on their own vomit.

kinski (kinski), Monday, 17 May 2004 09:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow. Weiland wanting to be Iggy in the worst possible way while fronting Buckcherry.

This is bad.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 23 May 2004 00:10 (twenty-two years ago)

They encore with "Negative Creep."

Brian Turner (btwfmu), Sunday, 23 May 2004 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

You know, that's a BAD double reference.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 23 May 2004 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Velvet Revolver is going to be a part of the next Frontline, about the troubles of the music industry:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/music/

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 23 May 2004 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Extended interviews with music artists Sarah Hudson, David Crosby, and members of Velvet Revolver, plus industry insiders and other observer

Oh dear.

Meanwhile, so Woodstock created the modern music industry, did it?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 23 May 2004 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

...landshark

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 23 May 2004 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw the video on MTV over the weekend. BLEEEEEEEEERUUURG. I had no idea who this band was, and thought they were a wanna be glammy "grunge" band, and then I found out that the Duff McKagen looking guy was actually Duff McKagen! (thank you Martin) Duff, WWHHHYYYYYYY? Please reform Fartz and restore your creds Now! and the wispy heroined out lead singer harpy was Weiland (which now doesn't surprise me at all.) And now I just noticed this thread. How can anyone defend this band (given just the video)?

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 23 May 2004 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)

It made the Darkness video right before seem like a ray of sunshine in comparison (having said that, i kinda dig that Darkness song "Growing On You" and accompanying 80s parody video w/ crotch cams... it's like a bunch of guys wanting to dress like the Alice Cooper backing band wanting to do somewhat forgettable catchy AC/DC meets REO Speedwagon rock pop music)

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 23 May 2004 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)

BUT DUUUUUUUDE GUNS N ROSES AND STP.

(Seriously, what a clusterfuck. Here's your taking sides: Audioslave vs. Velvet Revolver.)

xpost haha.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 23 May 2004 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)

STP or Guns 'N Roses : Minor Threat :: Velvet Revolver : Junkyard

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 23 May 2004 18:55 (twenty-two years ago)

In the video, Weiland is so nauseatingly skinny and hairless he reminds me of a tapeworm. Icky.

Je4nne Ć’ury (Jeanne Fury), Sunday, 23 May 2004 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

ROFFFLE!@!@!@@! (Anyonehaveapicof Scotty2Hotty?)

Be sure to Loop! Loop, Loop, Loop. (ex machina), Monday, 24 May 2004 12:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Alternate names for Velvet Revolver:
Velvet Rooster
Velvet Revolting

queenbee (queenbee), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)

tapeworms! roosters! UNGH UNGH UUUNNNNGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!

crotch thruster, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Velvet Regurgitation

korea, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Velvet Rehab

rasheed wallace, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 18:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Vomitous Resuscitation

korea, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)

that's already taken by a carcass tribute band.

al gore, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I just call them "The Velvets"

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 18:47 (twenty-two years ago)

A report via Metal Sludge via another site about a recent press conference:

Here's a report from Canadian Press about the VELVET REVOLVER press conference that was held in Toronto this past Friday. The bad days of rock are back. So say the members of Velvet Revolver, a who's-who of modern day rock legends, including crowd-pleasing guitarist Slash from Guns N' Roses. In typical bad-boy fashion, the quintet - also including ex-STONE TEMPLE PILOTS frontman Scott Weiland, former G N' R members bassist Duff McKagan and drummer Matt Sorum, and Dave Kushner, who once played guitar with Dave Navarro's band and WASTED YOUTH - showed up late to a news conference Friday, and chain-smoked their way through 45 minutes of Q&As, using enough curse words to render half their comments unusable to most media outlets. "It's fast. It's ferocious. It's like drinking lightning in a bottle," said Weiland, dressed like a superstar in dark aviator glasses, black velvet hat and white scarf. Velvet Revolver was in Toronto to play a sold-out show Friday night previewing material from their upcoming record, Contraband. "This album has the utmost potential . . . to be influential, to explode and be a massive album just like the Pixies were," said Weiland, who at one point threatened to walk out should reporters ask about his notorious drug addiction and police arrests. The group has reason to be cocky. It has been greeted with open arms, with many critics hailing the quintet a "supergroup." As well, the first single Slither is quickly climbing the radio and video charts and their shows have all sold out in minutes. Their reasoning for all the attention is that young people are once again interested in true rock 'n' roll bands, complete with the rough-and-tumble attitudes and un-boyband looks. McKagan said while he was going back to school a couple of years ago, fellow students often said they felt ripped off by the current landscape of bands. "They'd say, 'Our generation doesn't have a rock band. We don't have rock 'n' roll.' They're buying records that are 20 years old," he said. "There's a whole new young generation that's just starving for something that's pure and unadulterated." The blame, McKagan said, lies with the mega-mergers of media corporations that started in the mid 1990s. "With the advent of these mergers these labels were all owned by a huge umbrella corporation of stock holders. That in turn made all these pop paint-by-numbers garbage (groups). That's what was spoonfed to a whole generation. There will be revolt at some point and there will be change." He signalled out Nickelback and Creed as two bands that offer audiences no passion. "Rock 'n' roll is about a sense of freedom," added Slash. "When the corporate (people) get a hold of it, it becomes very contained, very predictable. It loses its human edge." Velvet Revolver formed in 2002 after Slash, McKagan and Sorum banded to perform a benefit show for their late friend Randy Castillo, a former drummer for Ozzy Osbourne. Kushner, a high school friend of Slash's, joined shortly after. Weiland, who has struggled with drug addictions for years, was recruited as the vocalist after a 10-month search. All members described their union as the best thing that's come along since they formed their first bands as teens. Weiland likened it to a "virgin experience," except they each "know what we did wrong in the past and we know how to avoid certain pitfalls." Slash said it was never about money or fame. "It's been purely about the music. . . . It's hard for people to fathom that. This thing came together organically." As the band prepared to leave the room, Slash promised rock fans a return to roots. "Guitar solos are back," he said with a grin through his long, curly mane.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

"Guitar solos are back," he said with a grin through his long, curly mane.

Wait until it comes out that he has a vested interest in this due to his past history as a lead guitarist. You can't trust anyone these days.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Weiland, dressed like a superstar

Implying, of course, that he is not.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Duff = Noam Chomsky.

rasheed wallace, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

"This album has the utmost potential . . . to be influential, to explode and be a massive album just like the Pixies were," said Weiland

Well I can see how that...huh?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

They played last night on Letterman; i thought it was pretty good, maybe not worthy of purchase (based on one tune), but i kinda liked it -- they played nice-n-clean.

christoff (christoff), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 15:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I keep waiting for the announcement that this is all an elaborately staged mockumentary a la "The Yes Men." But the participation of Weiland significantly erodes that possibility.

rasheed wallace, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)

They were like a Freddie Prinze, Jr video, in the sense that I was forgetting them even while I was watching, which can't be easy.

Ian G, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)

DONUT BITCH'S NOT SO AMBITIOUS PREDICTION:

Velvet Revolver will have to cancel a future tour due to a "near incident" involving Weiland.

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:07 (twenty-two years ago)

It has been greeted with open arms, with many critics hailing the quintet a "supergroup."

Wow! People have an incredible amount of respect for SUPERGROUPS!

King Kobra (King Kobra), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)

They are my generation's Damn Yankees.

christhamrin (christhamrin), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

the Asia for our children's children.

King Kobra (King Kobra), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)

They will never have a monster ballad as powerful as "High Enough"

christhamrin (christhamrin), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)

WHY DO THEY RAWK SO HARD?

http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album?id=6072850&pageid=rs.Home&pageregion=triple1

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 3 June 2004 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I have a bittorrent of their appearance on Stern (audio only) from a few weeks back if anyone's interested...

57 7th (calstars), Thursday, 3 June 2004 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I liked the new song, if not the video.

Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 3 June 2004 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I still haven't heard the single all the way through...but the bits I did hear were not too memorable.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 3 June 2004 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

With the single I got the feeling they were all standing around the room during their first practice, when the drummer calls out, somebody play a riff! And Slash or Duff detunes their E-string to D and plays some ascending/descending bullshit, and it's easy and familiar enough that the rest of the band shrugs and joins in.

57 7th (calstars), Thursday, 3 June 2004 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I love the shameless Slash solo on this but goddamn Weiland blows monkeys.

This Dave Kushner guy is pretty fucking pathetic. He's trying to look so badass and all anybody thinks is "I don't remember that dude being in G'N'R."

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)

TS: Bald Guys Wearing Hats And Goatees vs. Shiny On Top For All To See

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)

they'll never rawk this hard:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story?id=6054693&pageid=rs.Artistcage&pageregion=triple3

duke stone, Thursday, 3 June 2004 20:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I resent Matt Sorum getting more credit than he deserves. Let's remember, Sorum did NOT play on Appetite for Destruction. Sorum filled in after Adler'd been ousted.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 3 June 2004 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

he was in the Cult though! Shouldn't that make up for it?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 20:37 (twenty-two years ago)

He wasn't the original Cult drummer either, mind you.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)

He's a celebrated substitute.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I dunno, he cuts the mustard for this thing more than Weiland or the Legendary Kushner does.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Mebbe so...like i said, I haven't heard much of it. Sorum played originally, I believe, in Tori Amos' faux metal band, Y Can't Tori Read.

I remember seeing Guns'n'Roses playing with Metallica at Giants Stadium in `92. Metallica were on first and -- love'em or hate'em -- they were a force to be reckoned with. When Matt Sorum assumed the drum kit (after a lenghty, lenghty wait between bands -- thanks, Axl), his feeble drum fills sound like a pair of rattle coffee mugs in comparison to Lars' furious, stick-flailing battery.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)

rattling...

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:30 (twenty-two years ago)

actually I do have a horrible memory of Sorum's extended drum solo when watching some G'N'R Live In Paris thing on MTV back in the day.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I mean....he ain't the greatest. Also....always had very bad hair.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Having never seen an actual live show at the time I assumed ALL bands had extended drum solos, like it was law. Imagine my relief when I saw REM a few years later and Bill Berry didn't pull a "Moby Dick."

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:31 (twenty-two years ago)

The Velvet Revolver?
Why didn't they name themselves Soft Decocked Underbelly instead?

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm still kind of shocked they went for the masculine/feminine contrast again.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Ladies and gentlemen...PINK MUSKET!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I resent Matt Sorum getting more credit than he deserves. Let's remember, Sorum did NOT play on Appetite for Destruction.

he played on Spaghetti Incident, which deserves at least as much credit as Appetite

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 3 June 2004 22:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm still kind of shocked they went for the masculine/feminine contrast again.

Listen, I'm certain that they're the most masculine band in the world right now, particularly the mascara-clad Weiland.

King Kobra (King Kobra), Thursday, 3 June 2004 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

he played on Spaghetti Incident, which deserves at least as much credit as Appetite

Ummmm....no.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 3 June 2004 22:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Listen, I'm certain that they're the most masculine band in the world right now, particularly the mascara-clad Weiland.

I'm talking about their name. Guns=Revolver, Roses=Velvet. Though I guess SOUNDgarden and AUDIOslave cuts it kinda close too.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 22:07 (twenty-two years ago)

But aren't the words "Velvet" and "Revolver" themselves rather revered in classic rock vocab? I mean, I doubt it was intentional, but could their name be an allusion to both the Velvet Underground and the album Rolling Stone magazine called the best rock'n'roll album of all time?

Maybe I'm reaching here.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 3 June 2004 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)

more so than I, definitely.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 22:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe I'm reaching here.

I think so. I'm guessing one of the following:

- They wrote a bunch of "band related" words on slips of paper and then put them in a bowl. Then they started drawing words until they got a couple that made sense.
- Magnetic poetry on the door of the beer refrigerator in the studio
- Hilarious game of Mad Libs augmented by kilos of premium weed.

Actually, they probably just went to Master-McNeil like everyone else does.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 4 June 2004 08:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh you know Axl is fucking pissed

tk, Thursday, 17 June 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

my, what an ugly record cover you have.

good to see that cock rock is alive and well in the u.s.

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 17 June 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

They should really tour with Audioslave and then disappear somewhere en route to a South American show.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 June 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

straight clownin' ushaah!!

ned otm.

tk, Thursday, 17 June 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

August 2004

If there was a turning point for me over the last year and a half it was the day "Fall To Pieces" was written. The night
before, I had just gotten arrested. It wasn't the first time obviously, but to the point of which I had sunk in my soul had
seemed as if there was a bottomless oblivion that I would never be able to crawl out of. I had lost my wife and children
recently, my old band STP had fallen apart, and now the spectre of losing my freedom loomed over me like dark heavy
wet blankets. The only thing positive in my life was the new band Velvet Revolver.

New blood. New start. The song symbolizes both. It really is the cornerstone of this record for me; if it wouldn't have
happened, the record wouldn't have happened. The only way to be real about the subject matter of the song was to tell the
truth on film. It wasn't hard to sell this to the band, they lived it with me. I felt Kevin Kerslake would be the only director
that could possibly get me to the point of reliving some of those narcotic nightmares and re-drudging some of the pain out
of the old wounds that have healed from Mary's and my 12-year relationship.

In short, it was the most difficult video I've ever done from a fear perspective, yet at times with beautiful, sweet memories
that are chronicled on paper and in the heart and mind. All in all it was somethin' else! "She's still my little Rock-n-Roll."

--Scott Weiland

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

god i fucking hate weiland

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)


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