Taking Sides: "A Little Respect" v (New Order's) "Temptation"

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You know you're making me work so hard.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Trainspotting would have been so much more believable with an Erasure hallucination

― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Everyone should have an Erasure hallucination!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

possibly involving arseless chaps

― coco, Friday, 4 June 2004 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Coco, I hear you calling.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 4 June 2004 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

oh, it's the last time ...

― coco, Friday, 4 June 2004 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)

A Little Respect, I guess. I'm not crazy about either of those singles.

― Atnevon (Atnevon), Friday, 4 June 2004 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

"Temptation" is one of my favorite New Order songs, and "A Little Respect" is one of my least favorite Erasure singles.

― Mike F, Friday, 4 June 2004 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I like "A Little Respect" so much that I bought the Wheatus album (instead of just the "Teenage Dirtbag" single) because they did a cover of it. In hindsight, I shouldn't have bothered.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 4 June 2004 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

"A Little Respect" has sort of hit overkill with me over the years, but I have to applaud their taking to the U.S. Top 20 the line "what religion or reason / could drive a man to forsake his lover?"

― Joseph McCombs, Friday, 4 June 2004 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Johnny - that was the first big weekend of the summer, wunnit.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 4 June 2004 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

"A Little Respect". Great tune, with the added bonus of a singer who can sing.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Friday, 4 June 2004 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Are you high? Erasure aren't fit to walk the same earth as New Order.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 4 June 2004 18:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Alex in OTM

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 4 June 2004 18:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I used to be a huge NO fan, but over the last few years I've given less and less of a toss about them. And I'm not saying "Temptation" isn't great, but I love that Erasure single more. Surely as a Killing Joke fan, you can appreciate High Camp? ;-)

P.S. I am not high. Sadly.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Friday, 4 June 2004 18:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Barney can't sing, much as I love the punter vibe. Peel version of "Paradise" w/ dog-growl was so nice though.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 4 June 2004 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't hate Erasure. But they've never bested New Order. Never. Ever.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 4 June 2004 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Hm, Alex. "Mr. Disco", "Way of Life".

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 4 June 2004 18:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Erasure are at the begining and the end of the day, a silly synthpop band. Capable of pop greatness? Certainly, but nothing more.

New Order, meanwhile, are posively transcendent.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 4 June 2004 18:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I see them both as great singles bands. In which light, "A Little Respect", "Victim of Love" and "Chorus" are the equal of anything in NO's ouevre.

But then I prefer Depeche Mode when Vince was with them, too.

*Runs for cover*

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Friday, 4 June 2004 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd put "A Little Respect" up against any song on Republic and feel pretty confident about Erasure's chances.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 4 June 2004 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)

"I waw-nt you, I waw-nt you, I need you, I nee-heed you" vs. "And they covered up the sun, until the birds had flown away, and the fishes in the sea had gone to sleep". Very Gabriel on the page, isn't it?

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 4 June 2004 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Absolutely. But then they covered Gabriel on that ill-advised cover versions album, didn't they?

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Friday, 4 June 2004 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd agree that it was ill-advised insofar as they were taking the easy way in, having bound themselves creatively by the success of the ABBA covers. More homosexual empowerment anthems doubling as pop bliss, less adapting other songs to your sound please.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 4 June 2004 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

"Temptation" v Wire's "Ahead", shurely ? The Erasure-stablemate arty-new-wave-punk-types release a New Order rip-off in 1986 that the Cure would be proud of.

― darren (darren), Friday, 4 June 2004 20:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Wire's synth-pop phase gets a pass for "Drill", "Finest Drops" and "A Serious of Snakes".

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 4 June 2004 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)

"Kidney Bingos," dawg!

I'm gonna have to go with "A Little Respect" just cuz its more compact. Both are sweet.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 5 June 2004 12:17 (twenty-two years ago)

What Alex in NYC said

― wtin, Monday, 7 June 2004 10:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Alex in NYC is OTM all up and down this thread.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 7 June 2004 10:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Temptation always has been, is now and, hopefully, always will be a song that makes me want to spin round and round and jig about like someone who can't dance (which is handy). No Erasure song can do this.

Erasure are decent enough, but I've always felt, somehow, New Order's brilliance was in some way due to, rather than in spite of, their many faults and failings.

Despite the fact that Barney's lyrics are frequently ludicrous; despite 80% of Republic; despite the fact they've released more compilations than proper albums; despite the fact they are unable to see that Confusion is, was and ever shall be rubbish, no matter how many times they let Arthur Baker remix it ... despite it all, to me, they are utterly, unfathomably, glorious in every possible way, shape and form.

― coco, Monday, 7 June 2004 11:52 (twenty-two years ago)

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