Diaphragm singing

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How to use diaphragm during singing?? Does anyone know sone excersies??

Bojan Matic, Thursday, 10 June 2004 10:16 (twenty-two years ago)

This concept always puzzled me, until one day as part of an 'acting' course, we did singing, and I found I was doing this already...

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 10 June 2004 10:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Place your hands on your waist and take a deep breath without moving your shoulders. You should feel a good amount of expansion just below your ribcage; this is where you should be feeling your breath. Do this a couple of times to get used to the feeling and remember to keep your shoulders as still as you can.

Now, take one of these deep low breaths and and hiss it out on an 's' or 'sh' sound. You should not feel any tension in your throat as you do this. As you are hissing, concentrate on the feeling of tension below your ribcage and try to control the air by pushing back against the tension you feel in those muscles. Congratulations; the tension you feel is your diphragm contracting and expanding. This sensation is what you're looking for to support the sound you make while you are singing; try taking in some low breaths and send out the air on a note, keeping in mind this sensation and trying to keep your throat as loose and relaxed as you can. Then try singing some scales and intervals.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 10 June 2004 10:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Can you explain 'formant' too Dan? tx...

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 10 June 2004 11:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Hahahaha um er... maybe?

This probably will point you in a better direction than I could. Are you asking why they teach you to sing vowels differently from the way you speak them?

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 10 June 2004 11:18 (twenty-two years ago)

No.. I was asking about technique and how you train yourself to use it.. But it was a concept I never totally understood.

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 10 June 2004 11:25 (twenty-two years ago)

e.g. "It is created by the special resonance of the vocal tract when the larynx is lowered" .. How do you lower the larynx ..? I think that's what I was after .. how do you use muscles to alter the resonance ...

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 10 June 2004 11:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah. I'm not very good at that, actually (probably my biggest barrier to making the transition from kick-ass ensemble singer to credible classical soloist).

Put your hand on your throat and swallow. Feel how the larynx moves up, and then drops back down? You want to try to keep your larynx in that lower position (this is often referred to as "opening your throat"). If you're doing it correctly, you should feel this sensation that your throat is HUGE and open (keeping in mind that you don't want to strain your neck muscles trying to force your larynx down).

90% of healthy singing (classical or otherwise) can be boiled down to the twin concepts of relaxing everything above your shoulders and working from below your ribcage.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 10 June 2004 13:19 (twenty-two years ago)

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nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 10 June 2004 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Well thanks all, keep them coming. Tnx once again. :)

Bojan Matic, Friday, 11 June 2004 04:32 (twenty-two years ago)

nick is that a mcgriddle?

g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 11 June 2004 04:52 (twenty-two years ago)

mmmmmmmm.......chewy

ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Friday, 11 June 2004 05:23 (twenty-two years ago)

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Dr. Annabel Lies (Michael Kelly), Friday, 11 June 2004 05:35 (twenty-two years ago)

eleven months pass...
nick is that a mcgriddle?

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The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 10 June 2005 11:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Idol contestants to thread for some schoolin'

Paul (scifisoul), Friday, 10 June 2005 12:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Anemic Indie warblers to thread for some punchin'

geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Friday, 10 June 2005 12:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan is 100% OTM here.

I have a question--what is the high, throaty voice I use to get this breathy, Martin Gore-y sort of tone?

I can't figure it, but there it is.

Ian in Brooklyn, Saturday, 11 June 2005 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)

One exercise I use to work my diaphragm is to hum the song as loud as I can. Hard to explain why, but it works.

Danny, Saturday, 11 June 2005 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

My vocal coach, who was trained in opera but worked with rock singers, started like this:

Tie a belt or rope around your waist loosely. Breathe from down there until you expand the rope/belt AND you feel your sides/back expand. Hold that out while you sing the phrase. Then collapse.

To strengthen the diaphragm, lie on your back flat, and but books on it, and breathe.

Diaphragm breathing is how you breathe when you first wake up in the morning, when you are sleeping. It is from down deep. That's what you are going for, so pay attention when you wake up in the morning to how you are breathing.

Hope that helps.
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Orbit (Orbit), Saturday, 11 June 2005 01:41 (twenty-one years ago)

seventeen years pass...

I have always been so undisciplined about this.

My first voice teacher told me that the best thing for me would be to do abdominal exercises.

But how does any of this explain why there are so many, uh, hefty singers who achieve greatness without ever having visited a gym?

I Met Mr. Mathis (I M Losted), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 21:02 (three years ago)

Their core is still pretty strong is what I have been told.

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 July 2022 00:22 (three years ago)


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