So what is this "MP" thing the Midnight Oil guy wants to be?

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Doesn't seem to be a good time to become a military policeman, if you ask me. But hey, I'm not Australian:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3793383.stm

chuck, Thursday, 10 June 2004 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Whatever the job is, though, I hope dancing really awkwardly like Gumby in your videos is one of the requirements. (Hey, maybe that's why he'd appeal to green voters! Gumby was green too, right??)

chuck, Thursday, 10 June 2004 22:54 (twenty-two years ago)

member of parliament

the surface noise is so overwhelming that it renders the contents of the re (ele, Thursday, 10 June 2004 22:54 (twenty-two years ago)

The funny thing is Howard is already complaining about it. Is he THAT scared about this upcoming election?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 10 June 2004 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)

he thinks it will be bad for US/Australia relations. and all because of the lyrics to "u.s. forces". i am not making this up.

the surface noise is so overwhelming that it renders the contents of the re (ele, Thursday, 10 June 2004 22:58 (twenty-two years ago)

most people here seem pretty bemused by it. garretts a bit of a loose cannon and not a particularly good politician in my view (despite the fact i agree with a lot of his opinions). whether or not he'll toe the labor party line on, say, mandatory sentencing will be interesting. he's already revoked his former stance on pine gap.

mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 10 June 2004 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)

You have some funny people down there.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 10 June 2004 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)

he thinks it will be bad for US/Australia relations. and all because of the lyrics to "u.s. forces". i am not making this up.

Has anybody told Howard that "US Forces" is on an album that didn't sell well over here at all? Now, if Diesel and Dust had more blatantly anti-US sentiment on it then it might actually make a little sense.

martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 10 June 2004 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, we are always burning beds over here in the States, obviously...(wait, was he *for* burnt beds, or against them? I could never tell!)

chuck, Thursday, 10 June 2004 23:12 (twenty-two years ago)

he didn't like the way it affected his beauty sleep

the surface noise is another unwelcome bonus resulting from a preamp's inab (ele, Thursday, 10 June 2004 23:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw him being interviewed on The 7:30 Report - he was pretty adamant about how seriously he takes joining the Labor Party, practically vowing to never contradict their policies in public. I've never seen anyone so convince the world that he actually *was* a machine politician. It'll be interesting to see how it pans out but hardly crucial to the election - I think that Garrett individually won't really affect Labor's chances one way or the other, but rather will be subsumed into the general question of whether Australians listen to Bush and Powell saying that Latham's foreign policy is a disaster, or react against said intervention.

Of course, you'd think that Labor would have gotten this whole "star recruits" idea out of their system with Cheryl Kernot...

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 11 June 2004 00:54 (twenty-two years ago)

"You don't want extreme green attitudes because extreme green attitudes are anti-investment and anti-jobs," Mr Howard told reporters.

This would be right in-line with U.S. orthodoxy. The article was kind of vague, but Garrett sounds like he'd get along famously with Ralph Nader.

George Smith, Friday, 11 June 2004 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

growing old, he looks even more like that guy on _hills have eyes_

Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Friday, 11 June 2004 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)

three years pass...

So unless something really weird happens, John Howard's Liberals are about to lose the election in Australia. That means Labor is in...and that means Peter Garrett is about to become Minister for Climate Change, Environment & Heritage, Arts.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 November 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

Not necessarily. If Rudd (opposition leader) gets in, he will shuffle his cabinet.

Garrett did some cock-ups in the election campaign, so I wouldn't be holding my breath to be honest.

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 22 November 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

Ah, thanks -- I thought it was one of those automatic deals.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 November 2007 22:00 (eighteen years ago)

Nah, not here. Cabinets are always shuffled after elections, and Rudd has refused (publicly) to guarantee Garrett a place on the front bench.

But Rudd will win the election, definitely, failing something mental like a shopping centre bomb planted by the Tories in order to scare people.

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 22 November 2007 22:07 (eighteen years ago)

Ned, amusing piece on Garrett here

starts about 3:20 in.

W4LTER, Thursday, 22 November 2007 22:17 (eighteen years ago)

The whole thing's pretty amusing really.

W4LTER, Thursday, 22 November 2007 22:18 (eighteen years ago)

Jocular, even.

moley, Thursday, 22 November 2007 22:22 (eighteen years ago)

Officially Minister for Environment, Heritage and the Arts.

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 29 November 2007 03:25 (eighteen years ago)

Nutty. Well, bring it on. How high profile a ministerial role is it compared to others?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 November 2007 03:27 (eighteen years ago)

pretty high these days

i'm very surprised after all that "gaffe" hoo ha

electricsound, Thursday, 29 November 2007 03:34 (eighteen years ago)

Actually it's not quite as high as it sounds: that list now explicitly excludes climate change and water - i.e. the two most controversial and (arguably) important issues that fell under "environment" previously. Those two responsibilities have been given to Penny Wong, one of the campaign's best performers.

Basically Garrett hasn't so much been punished for his gaffes as placed in a position where any future gaffes are unlikely to result in much fallout - the only likely exception being if forestry issues heat up again any time soon.

Not that Wong is a "safe" choice in every respect: she's smart, highly articulate and fast on her feet, but putting a Malaysian lesbian in charge of such highly topical issues is something the Howard government would never have done.

Tim F, Thursday, 29 November 2007 05:47 (eighteen years ago)

I'd imagine, Tim, that, allowing for the fact that Labor getting in is still a solidly mainstream party more than anything else, you've been spending the last few days feeling rather more content than before.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 November 2007 05:53 (eighteen years ago)

putting a Malaysian lesbian in charge

This is the most exciting time ever.

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 29 November 2007 06:00 (eighteen years ago)

"I'd imagine, Tim, that, allowing for the fact that Labor getting in is still a solidly mainstream party more than anything else, you've been spending the last few days feeling rather more content than before."

Oh definitely! Have you seen my facebook profile pic?

Tim F, Thursday, 29 November 2007 07:30 (eighteen years ago)

Still left of centre though. There's loads of lefties all through the party. And the conservative opposition has softened considerably this week, so it's good all round for those of us who are not bigots.

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 29 November 2007 07:53 (eighteen years ago)

To be precise, Penny Wong is a Malaysian Lesbian from Adelaide.

King Boy Pato, Thursday, 29 November 2007 08:12 (eighteen years ago)

Oh definitely! Have you seen my facebook profile pic?

Heheh. Good choice.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 November 2007 18:14 (eighteen years ago)

is ned australian?

am0n, Thursday, 29 November 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

in spirit

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 29 November 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

TOO RIGHT

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 November 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

Rock star/environment minister in 'not allowed to talk about climate change' shocker

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 04:24 (eighteen years ago)

But he can interpretive dance it as much as he likes.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 04:29 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

Oils still oils...

Live from the Witch Trials (SeekAltRoute), Friday, 13 March 2009 01:55 (seventeen years ago)

Yes, Minister!

http://images.theage.com.au/2009/03/12/415545/svGARETT420x0.jpg

Live from the Witch Trials (SeekAltRoute), Friday, 13 March 2009 01:57 (seventeen years ago)

ten years pass...

whether or not he'll toe the labor party line on, say, mandatory sentencing will be interesting. he's already revoked his former stance on pine gap.

― mullygrubber (gaz), Friday, June 11, 2004 9:00 AM (fifteen years ago)

You have some funny people down there.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, June 11, 2004 9:00 AM (fifteen years ago)

This Tanya Plibersek thing reminds me of the time Labor listened to every Midnight Oil song, made a list of all Garrett's favorite causes and then made him keep announcing policies that were the opposite of his beliefs until he quit.

— John Macgowan (@john_macgowan) January 25, 2020

don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Saturday, 25 January 2020 05:53 (six years ago)


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