I-POD, help!!!

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I have just bought an i-pod and have installed the software on my computer. When i whent to plug the wire that connects the ipod to the computer, there was nowhere to plug it in! Do i need to get a new computer for my ipod to work, or is there another way i can plug the ipod in to the computer? what shall i do?!

Danielle Mcinski, Friday, 11 June 2004 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

What computer do you have? I'd say you are fucked, dearie.

AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Friday, 11 June 2004 20:13 (twenty-two years ago)

There was nowhere to plug it in on the iPod OR on the computer? Big difference.

deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Friday, 11 June 2004 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)

If you don't have a Firewire port (say, if you have a PC) you need to buy an iPod-to-USB cord.

Lukas (lukas), Friday, 11 June 2004 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Your iPod should come with both FireWire and USB connections....at least mine did.

If you have neither of those connections on your computer (assuming you have a PC), you'll have to buy an adapter card. I bought a FireWire one for my machine, but they have USB ones as well. I think it was around 20-30 bucks.

kickitcricket (kickitcricket), Friday, 11 June 2004 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)

send the ipod to me, my computer can definitely use it

JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 11 June 2004 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Im considering buying an IPOD... but... I have 25 gigs of music on my computer. How much can an IPOD hold, and can you buy more memory for it?

David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 11 June 2004 22:25 (twenty-two years ago)

there's a 40gig ipod and no you can't buy more memory for them

JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 11 June 2004 22:27 (twenty-two years ago)

it's not an I-POD or an i-pod

it's an iPod

and you are fucked, are you using a tandy 2000?

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 11 June 2004 23:06 (twenty-two years ago)

(There will probably be a 60 gig iPod in the not-too-distant future.)

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 11 June 2004 23:50 (twenty-two years ago)

meanwhile you can store whatever your iPod can't hold in your gmail account

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Saturday, 12 June 2004 03:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow. How can you buy something that costs that much money and not know if it even works on your computer?

Debito (Debito), Saturday, 12 June 2004 08:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I have only a 15-gig iPod, but it's plenty. You can always delete a playlist or two if you're running out of space, then add it back later. With firewire, it's blazingly fast.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Saturday, 12 June 2004 10:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I also have a 15 and it's plenty big enough. It would be nice to have all my MP3s on the iPod though.

I used to have a 5-gig iPod. Basically, that was fine too. i just swapped playlists occasionally for some variety.

Debito (Debito), Saturday, 12 June 2004 11:46 (twenty-two years ago)

i think it is good to cleanse the ipod once a month and start from scratch.

cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 12 June 2004 12:24 (twenty-two years ago)

When I switched my format from MP3 to AAC, I completely cleansed my iPod. It was a nice feeling, I should do it more often.

Debito (Debito), Saturday, 12 June 2004 12:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Got my "refreshed" (not refurbished) 15 GB iPod at the Apple store.. $219 oh yeah...

nothingleft (nothingleft), Saturday, 12 June 2004 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

MP3 -----> AAC best thing I ever did. Took my Powerbook like all day for ~15gb and it hummed and got real hot. It felt like I was actually using it for something productive vs email and ILX.

adam (adam), Saturday, 12 June 2004 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)

encoding your MP3s to AACs is a horrible thing to do. at least be sure to encode straight from AIFF if you are planning on using AAC.

cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 12 June 2004 23:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not sure what 'AIFF' means. But switching from MP3 to AAC is a total pain-in-the-arse. I'm still reburning CDs (I assume AIFF refers to the CD).

Debito (Debito), Sunday, 13 June 2004 01:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Well I don't care at all about sound quality, I care about fitting lots of shit onto my iPod.

adam (adam), Sunday, 13 June 2004 01:18 (twenty-two years ago)

seven months pass...
I'm thinking of getting an ipod or similar, just one VERY IMPOTANT QUESTION!

Do these things add a pause or a jump betweeen tracks that are supposed to segue instantly (in no gap) on the CD version,?

Cos my Sony MP3 CD player does and I hate it!

(Anyone got any opinions on the new sony HD MP3 player, V3? iPod battery life is useless :-(

mei (mei), Thursday, 13 January 2005 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

yes

Jimmy Mod always makes friends with women before bedding them down (ModJ), Thursday, 13 January 2005 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

the latest version of iTunes has this:

"Many music CDs contain songs that blend into each other, and importing them to iTunes may create a small gap between songs that interrupts the flow. If you use the iTunes Join Tracks feature, the program melds two or more songs into one, continuous gap-free track. So now you can enjoy listening to classical music, concept rock albums and extended dance mixes without the silent treatment."

does this transfers to iPods during playback?

john'n'chicago, Thursday, 13 January 2005 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

That just ruins so many albums :-~(

WTF??!?!?!?

Even Windows Media Player _nearly doesn't mess up inter-track.

:-(


WHY HAS NO ONE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE???

mei (mei), Thursday, 13 January 2005 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

If you stick the traacks together you're going to have some that are over an hour long!

mei (mei), Thursday, 13 January 2005 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

woah, wait a moment. there is always a gap between MP3s. it's something to do with the coding. AFAIK it doesn't happen with any other format (AAC etc).

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 13 January 2005 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)

my mini iPod is down to 3.8GB in the iTunes window. any idea how i've lost .2GB?

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 13 January 2005 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i think the system software takes up a bit of space.

plus, back in the day when disks were small enough that every kilobyte counted, there was a difference between formatted size and unformatted size. IIRC a 360kb floppy disk didn't give you 360kb as such. i imagine this is still the case.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 13 January 2005 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

when it was ready for and importing music the first time it was def 4.0GB, and for subsequent imports and messing about. i did update the system mid december-ish, that could be it. still seems like a lot of hard disk space for such a small system to use up.

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 13 January 2005 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm surprised it showed as 4GB before. Maybe iPod minis's spec is advertised differently to their big brothers', but my '15GB' iPod is actually only 13.something GB. I was told it was the difference between ways of counting a GB. Those extra 24B in a real MB stacking up.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 13 January 2005 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Bah.

J (Jay), Thursday, 13 January 2005 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

woah, wait a moment. there is always a gap between MP3s. it's something to do with the coding. AFAIK it doesn't happen with any other format (AAC etc).

-- grimly fiendish (simonmai...), January 13th, 2005.

No, don't think so, no reason you couldn't re-construct the 44k/16bit digital audio stream and play them exactly next to each other, down to the microsecond.

mei (mei), Thursday, 13 January 2005 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

my mini iPod is down to 3.8GB in the iTunes window. any idea how i've lost .2GB?

Have you saved any files/contact info/loaded any other apps to the iPod? Cause that'll do it.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 13 January 2005 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Or at least I think it'll do it...?

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 13 January 2005 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never had that problem with spaces between tracks. I set the time between tracks to 0 (I think the default is +1 second), and everything segues together well.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 13 January 2005 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm thinking of getting an ipod or similar, just one VERY IMPOTANT QUESTION!

Do these things add a pause or a jump betweeen tracks that are supposed to segue instantly (in no gap) on the CD version,?

Cos my Sony MP3 CD player does and I hate it!

(Anyone got any opinions on the new sony HD MP3 player, V3? iPod battery life is useless :-(

-- mei

If anyone has a way to fix this I'm all ears - it really fucks up the sounds of mix CDs, to the point where they're really not fun to listen to.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 13 January 2005 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I have mine set on zero (this is in iTunes, right?) but it still inserts the gaps.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 13 January 2005 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

This is why we need gigantic drived iPod's that will just play uncompressed .wav or .aiff files. No gap problems then. I won't buy an iPod till it's at least 100GB - and maybe not even then.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 13 January 2005 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

This (mp3 gaps) came up on another iPod related thread yesterday. Like I said there, sadly the gaps in mp3s are artifacts of the encoding, and there's nothing you can easily do about them. Really the only option to keep the gaps out and still use the mp3 format is to make one bigass mp3 out of however many songs are joined together in the sequence. If you're making a CD, another option is to convert to WAV (or AIFF if you're on a Mac) and then edit the file to remove the gap (cause once it's been an mp3 the gap will still be there if you convert back). Since the burning process is going to convert the mp3s anyway, there's no harm done converting them by hand first.

You can also use cue sheets and a couple other techniques to be able to see one big mp3 as multiple tracks in winamp, but to my knowledge there's no way to do it in iTunes yet, and I know there's no way to do it on an iPod. (More info here: http://www.geocities.com/altbinariessoundsmusicclassical/mp3gaps.html)

martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 13 January 2005 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I plugged my iPod in to recharge today and it just makes a whirring noise and the Apple logo comes up with a line through it. It doesn't say charging, light up, or anything like that, and I can't turn it on. I did drop it yesterday, but it's in a case. Am I fucked?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 13 January 2005 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Welcome to my world Jordan. My ipod is constantly fucked up like that. Im having a friend of mine take it to the ipod store tomorrow to demand a new one.

I dont know wtf the problem is. In the last month or so my battery has turned into a piece of shit. Yesterday I listened to my ipod for two hours and I didnt get any response when I tried to listen to it during my lunch break. When this happened in the past I'd have to plug it back into a charger and it would do exactly what you just described, but it would eventually charge back up again. But fuck this 2 hour battery life bullshit.

major jingleberries (jingleberries), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Really the only option to keep the gaps out and still use the mp3 format is to make one bigass mp3 out of however many songs are joined together

did you you try the join thing on the new itunes software i mentioned upthread? seems this would take care of the breaks between tracks and allow track skipping.

john'n'chicago, Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

did you you try the join thing on the new itunes software i mentioned upthread? seems this would take care of the breaks between tracks and allow track skipping.

I don't know that joining tracks actually does get rid of it, because once a song is converted to mp3 there's a gap at the beginning and/or end of it. Joining two songs that both have gaps built-in is still going to leave a gap just like burning them with "no gap" set for the CD. Unless that iTunes feature is designed to fix that very problem, I think you have to rip them as a single track in the first place. Or join them while they're still WAV or AIFF and then mp3 encode the resulting larger file.

martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

did you you try the join thing on the new itunes software i mentioned upthread? seems this would take care of the breaks between tracks and allow track skipping.

-- john'n'chicago

I could be mistaken but I think this controls for iTunes only, not for the iPod -- it joins them if you're listening on your computer.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 13 January 2005 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

regarding the shitty battery life...

http://www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Thursday, 13 January 2005 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

LAME does virtually gapless mp3 with the -nogap command line switch. You may not even need to enable the switch, since I think it's enabled by default in some versions of LAME.

The problem with gapless in the mp3 encoding process rests with ID3 tags, which are either placed at the very beginning of the file (ID3v2) or the very end of the file (ID3v1). Much more info here:

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/mp3/chapter/ch02.html#71109

There's nothing that can be done about the (larger) gaps on the IPod; that's the shitty mp3 decoder. Gapless mp3 listening is possible only when the player supports buffer-ahead on track changing, i.e., when the decoder starts working on the next file and buffers it to the end of the file that's still playing on-the-fly. A lot of software players (like Winamp, frinstance) can do this. I don't think any of the hardware players can do it flawlessly.

J (Jay), Thursday, 13 January 2005 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

regarding the shitty battery life...

That movie is many years out of date!

http://www.apple.com/support/ipod/service/battery.html

J (Jay), Thursday, 13 January 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, but that isn't very sensational now, is it? ;)

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Thursday, 13 January 2005 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

After we finished production of the film, Apple began offerring a battery replacement program for the ipod for a fee of $99 and an extended warranty for the ipod for $59.

We acknowledge Apple's new battery replacement policy. Our movie is a documentation of our experience.

-Casey Neistat

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 13 January 2005 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

and?

J (Jay), Thursday, 13 January 2005 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Nice to know I'm not the only one annoyed by this!
J (McChump@rocketmail.!!!com), the buffer ahead thing is exactly what I think MP3 players shld do, but I guess the performance overhead of having two decodings going on at once is too mcuh, they want to use it for rotating icosn, SUPPPAAA POWA BAAAAASSSS or something :-(

mei (mei), Friday, 14 January 2005 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm, skipping through that link, http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/mp3/chapter/ch02.html#71109, it seems the tags are at the beginning of the file, not (necessarily) the beginning of the sound stream.

CF CDs where simultaneous sounds are stored sequentially. Er, and in MP3s for that matter.

mei (mei), Friday, 14 January 2005 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)

does anyone sometimes here some random computer guy saying EDIT when listening to songs you transferred into itunes?

lolita corpus (lolitacorpus), Saturday, 15 January 2005 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

hahah this thread is full of fools

LSD ARISTOCAT (ex machina), Saturday, 15 January 2005 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

:(

lolita corpus (lolitacorpus), Saturday, 15 January 2005 08:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Update.

I already have a Sony MP3 etc CD player.
I never used ATRAC before because all my music files are .mp3 and Sony's software crashed when I installed it. Anyway, hey're a no skip option on ATRAC so I installed the Sony software on my work compter and burned 19 albums onto one CD, the software converting MP3-> ATRAC.

Guess what, no gaps!

Unfortunately the re-encoding has made the music sound lik a cassette walkman, bu I think that's just the de-code and re-encode process, next step is to go stright CD->ATRAC, see how that works.

I'm thinking Sony HD-3 thingy whe I get enough cash...

mei (mei), Monday, 17 January 2005 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
Dammit. Still can't afford it :-(

mei (mei), Thursday, 17 February 2005 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)


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