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EMI RECORDS NEW RELEASE

KILLING JOKE

'For Beginners...'

Release Date: 02 August 2004

Few groups have ever matched Killing Joke for sheer rock 'n' roll intensity; formed in Notting Hill in 1978 by Jaz Coleman, Geordie, Youth and Paul Ferguson, they lit up the post punk music scene in the UK, thanks to a rhythmic fury, inflammatory imagery and borderline psychotic stage antics. Often misunderstood for both their doom laden lyrics and their black humour, Killing Joke nonetheless harboured a near uncontrollable rage at authority to match their political pretensions.

EMI are now set to release 'For Beginners...' on 02 August, a compilation lovingly put together to serve as the most informative introduction possible to the band's lengthy career, plus previously unreleased versions and mixes for the connoisseur.

'For Beginners...' takes us on a historical journey through Killing Joke's impressive catalogue.
Their first self produced album, the eponymous 'Killing Joke 1981' featured live audience pleasers such as 'The Wait' which was covered by Metallica on their EP 'Garage Days Re-Revisited'.

Their second album 'What's THIS For...!' showed Killing Joke nailing their colours to the mast by developing individual themes from the first album and is represented here by a live version of 'The Fall Of Because' - a song that inspired one group so much they named themselves after it, and who later became the pioneering industrial outfit 'Godflesh'.

'Revelations' the third album was recorded in Berlin with legendary producer Conny Plank; here they appropriated Masonic imagery and angular chords on tracks such as 'We Have Joy' and 'Chapter III'.

Their next album 'Fire Dances' was Killing Joke's first album with new bass player Paul Raven. It saw them return, in part, to the primeval, tribal sound from their first two albums. This album provided the blueprint which would be more fully realized on 1985's 'Night Time' which features a warm, anthemic quality, supplementing the blasting.

Their 6th album represented here by 'Victory' & 'Twilight of the Immortal', 'Brighter Than A Thousand Suns' shows the emphasis is still focused clearly on volume and strong, full-bodied playing.

And the final album represented here 'Outside the Gate' is in reality a Jaz Coleman solo album put out under the band's name, featuring 'My Love of this Land' and 'Obsession'.

Tracklisting:
1. The Wait
2. Primitive
3. Butcher
4. The Fall of Because (Live) single b-side
5. Chapter III
6. We Have Joy PREVIOUSLY UNRELEARSED MIX
7. Fun & Games
8. Harlequin PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED SINGLE VERSION
9. Wilful Days single b-side
10. Tabazan album
11. Night Time
12. Victory PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED VERSION
13. Twilight of the Mortal
14. My Love Of This Land
15. Obsession
16. Rubicon PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED CHRIS KIMSEY MIX

Cat no. KJINTRO 1

www.emicatalogue.com

― the killing jooke, Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:09 (twenty-two years ago)

some previously unreleased tracks !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:16 (twenty-two years ago)

"'For Beginners...'"?
".... a compilation lovingly put together to serve as the most informative introduction possible...."?

Without Turn To Red, Pssyche, Wardance, Change, Requiem, The Hum, Follow The Leaders, Unspeakable, Empire Song, The Hum, Eighties, Kings & Queens, Love Like Blood, Darkness Before Dawn....?

Laugh at your own peril!

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I may know little about killing joke, but I would have thought Eighties was quite significant omission too! (probably this will be an x-post by now).

― M Carty (mj_c), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

lo and behold it was!

― M Carty (mj_c), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Stewart, the idea behind this compilation is to introduce begineers to Killing Joke, to give them a sample of Killing Joke.

A compilation : Laugh.. I nearly ...
already exists with the big obvious tracks from early years to mid 80s.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:32 (twenty-two years ago)

How do you introduce someone to a band w/o playing them the tracks that defined them 'though - a and what would be the point?

You're absolutely right, Laugh I Nearly Bought One already exists and does the job of introducing newcomers to the band admirably.

As a companion piece to that, this one isn't bad (due in no small part to (total?) the lack of overlap); although I'd still be inclined to suggest that it's singularly without point.

To suggest that this one is "'For Beginners...'" and ".... the most informative introduction possible...." however is, I'm afraid, total, complete and unmitigated bollocks.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)

this For Beginners.. is similar to "Introduction to.. " series that Virgin/ EMI catalogue started last year.

it's just a cheap way to sell more back catalog CDs, the idea punter buys comp CD, will buy more back cat albums from said artist.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Aaaaaaah, I see.

Does it actually work, or does selling people a compilation of a band / musician's B-sides, album fillers and outtakes under the pretense that it's the best possible introduction to the band, actually just put (or piss) people off?

Would EMI think this was a good tracklist for "A Beginners Introduction To The Beatles":

Ask Me Why
There’s A Place
Little Child
Not A Second Time
Thank You Girl
Any Time At All
Tell Me Why
I’ll Follow The Sun
Tell Mer What You See
Another Girl
The Word
Run For Your Life
For No-one
I Want To Tell You
Fixing A Hole
Martha My Dear
Long, Long, Long
Pepperland
Yellow Submarine In Pepperland
I Want You (She’s So Heavy)
Golden Slumbers

Or would that just be foolish?

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

man - thats a SUCKY beatles comp! theres no hits! wheres the trippy stuff, like L(ucy in the) S(ky with) D(iamonds)???

― peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:19 (twenty-two years ago)

You forgot "Don't Pass Me By" & "Piggies", Stewart.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Peter.

Seldom if ever have I witnessed anyone hit the nail so squarely on the head, whilst simultaneously missing the entire bleedin' point....

It's a SUCKY Killing Joke comp.!

David.

In the spirit of the Killing Joke comp., I thought there needed be perplexing omissions as well as perplexing inclusions.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:22 (twenty-two years ago)

"I Want You (She's So Heavy)" is a fantastic song -- the best on "Abbey Road".
Point taken. Hey, maybe we should turn this thread into an EMI "For Beginners ..." thread.

A Beginners Introduction to Depeche Mode

Boys Say Go! (Previously Unreleased Trance Mix 2004)
Shout
Pipeline
Something to Do
Fly on the Windscreen
New Dress
Little 15 (Previously Unreleased Bang the Hizzouse Mix 2004)
Pleasure Little Treasure
Waiting for the Night
Clean
Mephisto
Higher Love
Painkiller (Previously Unreleased Electro-club 12" Extended Version Dub House Mix)

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

x-post

My learned friend in NYC may tell me that I'm wrong and that they're already available somewhere else, but mightn't this have been a good opportunity to at least make Nervous System, Are You Receiving and the 6 tracks from "Ha! Killing Joke Live" available on CD?

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

"Maybe we should turn this thread into an EMI "For Beginners ..." thread."

If someone got the time and the inclination, I'm sure we could make some helpful suggestions for a David Bowie comp....

http://www.morphius.com/Images/items/GOK-068CD_lg.jpg

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

stewart, have you seen this info for an upcoming book, due in August:
http://www.cherryred.co.uk/books/burningbritainahisto.htm
Burning Britain - A History Of UK Punk 1980 to 1984
Ian Glasper

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Punk as I knew and loved it died in '79 - so as far as I'm concerned personally, any book with a title like this is likely to evoke at best a mildly disinterested sneer and at worst an apocalyptic / apoplectic fury of Alex In NYC-like proportions.

As regards the synopsis: UK Subs were about and gigging in '77 (i.e. they're "real" punk") so I don't understand what their relevance is here; Anti Pasti, Discharge, Peter & The Test Tube Babies and Vice Squad all had their moments but the rest of the bands mentioned were vile.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

growing up in small town in the early 80s, those band names were graffitied throughout the town.

Discharge, Exploited and Chrongen were popular names
http://punkandoi.free.fr/chrongen.htm
i have no idea what Chrongen sounded like though

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Chron Gen (short for Chronic Generation) had their moments too, particularly the songs Puppets Of War, Reality and Subway Sadist.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

stewart, as i mentioned to you a while back: the big punk band in my hometown:

Picture Frame Seduction
http://www.punkoiuk.co.uk/interviews/pfs.htm
[new-ish profile / interview]

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 14:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Not familiar with the band (although I have met Rebecca who runs that site a couple of times!).

Weren't Anhrefn and Llygod Fyrnig from that part of the world too?

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)

no Anhrefn were from North Wales ! Bangor
http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/music/profiles/pages/anhrefn.shtml

also on the bbc wales site:

Picture Frame Seduction
http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/music/profiles/pages/picture_frame_seduction.shtml

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

"welcome to our world / welcome to our world / welcome to our world of PAIN"

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

My humble apologies Mr. Martian - for some reason I thought they were from somewhere around Ponytpridd / Merthy Tydfil!?

Which would be weirder do you think: still being with the same guys, in the same band, playing the same songs, that you were 25-30 years ago; or getting back together with the same guys, in the same band, playing the same songs, that you were 25-30 years ago?

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Of the first band I was in: I'd love to see the bass player again; I can barely remember the drummer; I suppose I've finally grudgingly forgiven the guitarist for nicking my girlfriend; I can still remember most of the songs and some of them were OK, although some of them I'd rather suffer a long and painful death than face the embarrassment of singing them in public again.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Oops, sorry to be late to the table on this one. The infant isn't too keen on letting me waste as much time infront of the computer. Alas.

In any event, packages like this are generally always botched, aren't they? I mean, I don't know which to get madder at: the inexcusable omission of several key afore-mentioned tracks or the inclusion of dubious "PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED MIX"'s designed to suck in the knee-jerk faithful like myself. Killing Joke for beginners? Why not start at the begining, then, and get their first album? If that doesn't grab you, then chances are nothing else of theirs will either. Also, there's already been a compilation of this sort, the afore-mentioned Laugh? I Nearly Bought One (to say nothing of its skewed sibling release, Wilfull Days), neither of which handled the job any better than this compilation will. That said, I do applaud the inclusion of "Harlequin" frrom Fire Dances. Not only was the entirety of Fire Dances passed over on Laugh? but "Harlequin" might be, for my money, the finest track on that album.

Whatever. I'm sure I'll buy it like the dutiful lemming I irrefutably am.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Be fair: they probably wanted to include "Eighties," but couldn't get Courtney's approval.

― briania (briania), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 16:17 (twenty-two years ago)

You should be clubbed in the sternum with a large, frozen sea-bass for that comment.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 18:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Can a frozen sea-bass really do much damage?

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, I don't want to kill briania.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

By the way, pardon my heroic ignorance, but what does "FAO:" mean?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 23:20 (twenty-two years ago)

For Attention Of = Look here now MR Alex in NYC !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 23:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah yes. Got it. Thanks.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 00:27 (twenty-two years ago)

i still like the idea of a giant toy store on 58th street inspired by Alex in NYC's musical tastes

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 00:54 (twenty-two years ago)

the giant piano keys that they played "Heart and Soul" on in "Big" would play only power chords for starters

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 00:54 (twenty-two years ago)

the animatronic animals would be programmed to rabidly attack their owners upon hearing anything by Linda Perry

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 01:01 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

just travelling round the net and searched on a band i checked out on saturday in h/west wales, picture frame seduction, great band and a great night. i see a few comments on them here, but may i add the rock in real terms and age has only matured them and improved them beyond the hardcore images of the early 80's. this apparently was a warm up show b4 their uk tour, if they play like they did on saturday the uk is in for a real treat. im checking them out again in cardiff on the 23rd april. cheers, tim, carms.

― tiger punk, Monday, 17 April 2006 23:31 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

James Ingram and Micheal McDonald "Yah mo be there"

What kind of keyboards did Micheal McDonald and James Ingram use to make this song.

-- startrekman, Saturday, November 27, 2004 6:22 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Link

irritating ones.

-- Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, November 27, 2004 6:27 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Link

― and what, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

...and I was right.

― Alex in NYC, Friday, 28 September 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

I thought FAO meant "For Alex Only" and then ": Alex in NYC" was just to clarify.

― jaymc, Friday, 28 September 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

i thought it meant "fancy an omelette"

― dell, Friday, 28 September 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

I do.

― Alex in NYC, Friday, 28 September 2007 16:01 (eighteen years ago)

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