Taking sides: Momus vs P.J. Harvey

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Whose oeuvre do you prefer?

(personally, I'm waiting to hear PJ Harvey do a stomping cock-rock cover of 'Coming In A Girl's Mouth')

― pj momey, Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, but what about Momus's BANGS!?!?

― Apostrophe Catastrophe (kate), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Can I just point out that pj momey IS NOT ME!

― mei (mei), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:50 (twenty-two years ago)

But hwile we're on the subject, can someone upload that naked picture of PJ Harvey again please?

― mei (mei), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Sigh.

― Apostrophe Catastrophe (kate), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:51 (twenty-two years ago)

PJ Harvey nekkid

http://www.ulitka.net/pj/gal2/p39.jpg

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:54 (twenty-two years ago)

What?

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:55 (twenty-two years ago)

medusa!!

― the surface noise and the analogue warmth (electricsound), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Oi! Who are you callin' "medusa"?

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, wait, OK, I see....

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:57 (twenty-two years ago)

What? There really was a naked picture of PJ Harvey?

― mei (mei), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 12:01 (twenty-two years ago)

This is where Momus's discourse falls down. For all PJ Harvey's suppposed conservative faux-bluesman rock vaudeville cliché, is there a single person out there apart from Momus who would suggest that Momus is the better artist?

― Bela Lugosi's Dad, Wednesday, 16 June 2004 12:02 (twenty-two years ago)

(Okay, someone just get the momus naked pic out of the way and let's have done with it)

― mei (mei), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 12:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Better still, we could skip the nekkid picture of Momus and go straight to "this thread has been locked by an administrator".

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 12:12 (twenty-two years ago)

They both have their merits, I guess.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 12:12 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.wmf.welshmusicfoundation.com/momusharvey.jpg

― mei (mei), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 12:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Blimey! It's like looking in the mirror.

― pj momey, Wednesday, 16 June 2004 12:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I like Momus records a lot better than p j harvey's, fwiw.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 13:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Let The Fork decide!

The Fork on what's good about Momus:

'Momus is the epitome of the integration of the absurdities of modern technological society into pop music... Momus is the perfect rock star for the 21st century... But it's more than more than image and ideology that make Momus the model for future cult icons. His lyrics and hooks are nothing short of brilliant. Reading his liner notes is equally as enjoyable as listening to his sugary acoustic Casio pop... Momus is the pop amalgamation of fashion, the internet, literature, film, travel, food, and sex. He's the music equivalent of postmodern writers Mark Leyner, David Foster Wallace, and William Gibson... More than the music, the rush strangely still comes from the perverted characters, ideas, writings, and image. Momus seems almost fictional, and is sure to quickly gain cult status among the Anglophilic, educated, and fashion sensible. I'm just surprised Bjork hasn't dated him yet.'

Brent Dicrescenzo
http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/m/momus/ping-pong.shtml

The Fork on Polly when she's good:

'Harvey seems to have a grasp on her feelings, even if they occasionally consume her. ...Is This Desire? is, for all intents and purposes, a collection of bleak short stories... Yet another evolution for a musician whose career has become synonymous with change... Harvey seems intent on trying out every mask, and with each new one comes yet another set of emotions that's neither better nor worse than the last-- it's simply different.'

Shan Fowler
http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/h/harvey_pollyjean/is-this-desire.shtml

The Fork on Momus when he's bad:

'Awfulness has always been a part of Momus' gambit. The man's main fallacy, however, is that his laboriously cultivated image of a postmodern ponce is binding and irreversible. Behind the moniker of the Greek God of Ridicule, Nick Currie is an erudite man who consigned himself to powdered-wig naughtiness and endless intimations of buggery. This kind of stuff gets old-- even for the joker-- and there's nothing to kill a comedy routine like a whiff of noblesse oblige.'

Michael Idov, June 17th, 2003
http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/m/momus/oskar-tennis-champion.shtml

The Fork on Polly when she's bad:

'Bland, middling music can often be more offensive than something genuinely awful. If you're hearing something bad, at least emotions and feelings are evoked. Average music, though, just fades into the background. You feel nothing, so you virtually hear nothing; the frequencies are wasted on your ears. You could have used that time to hear something that at least causes some kind of reaction... With each album, Polly Jean Harvey moves gradually from the barrage of passion of her previous work into the central category.'

Spencer Owen
http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/h/harvey_pollyjean/stories-from-the-city.shtml

― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 13:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha Pitchfork called Momus a "rock star." Rawk on!

― briania (briania), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Harvey did her best work before the existence of Pitchfork. Nice try, though.

― Sym (shmuel), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Some people think I did too, thank you for not buying into that, Sym! (I think it's all ahead of me, natch.)

― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Why is this even a thread? M to the O to tha M to da U to the S.

― Bjork (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 15:44 (twenty-two years ago)

It's The Mountain Goats vs Hole next! Sharpen your pencils!

― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Hole.

― mei (mei), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

"Sharpen your pencils! "

I read that as "Sharpen your penises!" It's time to go to bed.

― stephen morris (stephen morris), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and since none of my many attempts to locate Momus records in my area have been fruitful, I'm going to have to go with PJ by default. If you could just drop some off the next time you're driving through St. Louis, I'd appreciate it. We're the Gateway to the West, you know.

― stephen morris (stephen morris), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

no way, man--Pittsburgh is totally the Gateway to the West. ya heard?

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 17:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Pistols at dawn!

― stephen morris (stephen morris), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Momus! I sing all your first person songs in the third person, no, really, I do. "He went with a friend of his, he hadn't seen in years. . . ." With PJ it's not as much fun. "She's spilling over like a heavy-loaded fruit tree. . . ."

― otto, Wednesday, 16 June 2004 17:48 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.wmf.welshmusicfoundation.com/momusharvey.jpg http://sineadoconnor.host.sk/discography/guest/1995/snake_big.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 18:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Right?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 22:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I like Momus more and I listen to him more but i haven't really listened to a lot of PJ Harvey though I think I woul dlike to. I think his best albums came out before pitchfork. I was in St. Louis last week. I went up the arch. You can see the riverboats from there. I'm listening to the Mountain Gaots.

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Thursday, 17 June 2004 08:00 (twenty-two years ago)

"Dry" was that 'stunned' moment for me that a lot of other people (O.K. Bono) had described with regard to Patti Smith's "Horses".
I never dug 'that' one, I guess you had to have been there at the time.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 17 June 2004 08:07 (twenty-two years ago)

My Momus moment, apart from the more famous tracks (3 spring to mind) is seeing him along with amny others at the "Panic Station all dayer" at Dingwalls back in the day. (God, Jake Shillingf0rd's an a33h0le, yeah.)

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 17 June 2004 08:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Compare Polly's first record to her last, then do the same with Circus Maximus and Oskar. Momus wins by 4th round knockout, even with the one eye.

― kinski (kinski), Thursday, 17 June 2004 09:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Gotta go with Momus. Although I currently don't own anything by either artist anymore(back before I had to sell my CD collection 4 years ago, I had the original Little Red Songbook! grrr...), I know I'll repurchase Momus' stuff waaaay before PJH's. Plus, I originally found ILx from a link on Momus' website, so I owe him for that!

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 17 June 2004 09:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry, I digressed myself. Anyway, Momus, solo on stage. I never saw as much pure respect from an audience, ever.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 17 June 2004 09:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Respect, eh? I've heard some good stories about gifts Momus has recieved on stage back during the Stars days.
One of the greatest shows I've seen was Momus opening for Stereo Total but I've still got to go with PJ Harvey on this. I had similar Dry experience to the one posted above.

― danh (danh), Thursday, 17 June 2004 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

Clearly Momus ...

But on further thought "Sheila na gig, sheila na gig, you exhibitionist" is a line worthy of the man himself. (Particularly in his new found "come back to the old religion" phase)

So much so that I really wanna hear Momus cover this song ...

― phil jones (interstar), Monday, 16 August 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

She sings "you exhibitionist" on Sheila-Na-Gig??? I always thought she was saying YOU ACT SO VICIOUS.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Monday, 16 August 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Momus wrote "Una giapponese a Roma", a fantastic Pasolini-meets-Roman Holidays moment and one of the best "Italian" songs ever, all Catholic boys and horrible swearwords, so I'll go with Mr Currie. He knows us very well.

― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Monday, 16 August 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

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