What are the essential rap albums I need to get that have been released in 2004 so far?

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I'm compiling a list that I can work off of once I end my music-purchasing sabbatical in early October. This year I haven't bought much rap, I need to stock up. I need to know the good shit!

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 14 August 2004 03:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Ghostface, Madvillainy, Kanye, Devin the Dude, Trillville/Lil Scrappy are my favorites. In no order. The Petey Pablo is a mixed bag, but the great tracks are really great (although have obv. been discussed quite a bit on ILM).

Brother Ali and Pete Rock albums have some quality stuff too, especially the Pete Rock tracks w/ CL ("Appreciate" and "Love Thing")

djdee2005, Saturday, 14 August 2004 04:05 (twenty-one years ago)

is the new Ghostface better than Supreme Clientele? I love that one...

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 14 August 2004 04:06 (twenty-one years ago)

no

Sir Chaki McBeer III (chaki), Saturday, 14 August 2004 04:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I would also say it's not quite that good, but a lot of people disagree. It's damn good though - easily in the same league as SC, and better than Ironman on the whole.

djdee2005, Saturday, 14 August 2004 04:22 (twenty-one years ago)

alright keep 'em coming!

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 14 August 2004 05:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Ty - Upwards

Andrzej B. (Andrzej B.), Saturday, 14 August 2004 05:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Lil Wayne, Jadakiss.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 14 August 2004 06:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you really think the Jadakiss album is great, Sterling?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 14 August 2004 06:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry - obv you do, I should ask what you see as being great about it. I can't get into it beyond individual tracks.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 14 August 2004 06:50 (twenty-one years ago)

has there been one really? i like that one lil' wayne track i heard, but one good disco south track ("snitch) does not a good full length make, i'll have to investigate. the jadakiss sounded pretty good but spotty, "kiss of death" might be the best thing on it. there's one madvillian track i've heard and it's actually grown on me - "fancy clown" - but i doubt i'd find a whole lp compelling, i suppose i should give it a go. 'pretty toney' i find worthy but boring.

m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 14 August 2004 09:08 (twenty-one years ago)

The Lil Wayne album is fucking wicked if you just listen to it really loud so the bass corrupts all the annoying Lil Jon crunk whistle rip off noises, there's one song "Cash Money Millionaire" that is like vintage Mannie updated for 2004, with this fat ugly bass noise and synthetic strings and shit. And he's a really good mc now, there's a heartbreaking song where he tells all about the Hot Boyz split and not exactly disses Turk but criticises him fairly because he still loves him.

Terror Squad album is pretty good, lots of big shiny expensive beats and it's pretty much Remy Ma on every song so you can't go too wrong. Juvenile & the UTP album is excellent. Soulja Slim & BG. Lil Wyte screwed & chopped. The Young Buck album has leaked and when it drops it will be a 5 mic classic.

Some promising albums on the way:
Ma$e - Mason Betha is Back
Shyne - Godfather Buried Alive
Geto Boys - War & Peace
SLIM THUG - DONT KNOW WHAT ITS CALLED BUT IT WILL BE A CLASSIC OK

thoed in da game, Saturday, 14 August 2004 11:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah LIL FLIP OF COURSE.

scg, Saturday, 14 August 2004 11:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Wiley and Dizzee Rascal! They may not be hip-hop, but they are certainly rapping.

JoB (JoB), Saturday, 14 August 2004 11:25 (twenty-one years ago)

If you're feeling adventurous, and if your preferred P2P-network is feeling kind, may I suggest two great Dutch language hip-hop albums, both released this year:

Extince - 2e Jeugd
Choice tracks: Voorprogramma, Funky Nassau and Regelneef.

Duvelduvel - Aap-o-Theek
Choice tracks: Wie Is Ut, Draai and Tis Leuk Geweest.

To give you a little idea: Extince is the Dutch Jay-Z (i.e. seemingly effortlessly the greatest), Duvelduvel (a threesome, with MC/producer Duvel as its main man) the Dutch Kool Keith (i.e. completely off on their own tangent). Ofcourse, they're very much their people.

JoB (JoB), Saturday, 14 August 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)

...their own people...

JoB (JoB), Saturday, 14 August 2004 11:37 (twenty-one years ago)

so far this year I like Twista, Petey Pablo, Triple Seis, Baby Bash, Cee-Lo if you count that because he only raps on like 3/4 of the tracks or so

the only essential rap album so far though I think is the Twista

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Saturday, 14 August 2004 11:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Ghostface, Dizzee, Kanye, Madvillain, Petey, Cee-Lo Jada all seconded in that order.

Not mentioned: Young Buck's not out yet but sounds hot, Lloyd Banks was meh, Infinite Lifez is wonderfully bizarrre Brit-rap, Danger Mouse's Grey Album was great but it's been talked to death here I know - also solid: Masta Killa, Murs, Prince Po, Beans

Josh Love (screamapillar), Saturday, 14 August 2004 13:10 (twenty-one years ago)

To give you a little idea: Extince is the Dutch Jay-Z

This probably explains why I loathe both so much. ;-)

I'd def pick Kanye West and Cee-Lo. Can't seem to get into Showtime though.

jesus nathalie (nathalie), Saturday, 14 August 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I mentioned the Young Buck album.

Anyway. Some more realness.

Z-Ro - Life Of Joseph McVey (slept on!)
Chamillionaire - Mixtape Messiah (a mixtape but a high quality mixtape and it will do until Controversy Sells)
8 Ball & MJG - Livin' Legends
BG - Life After Cash Money
Masta Killa - No Said Date

Best mixtapes of 2004 so far:
DJ Smallz - Southern Smoke XI
Boss Hogg Outlawz - Look At Us Now
Tapemasters INC - Mixtape Supremacy
Color Changing Click - After the Superbowl
Big Mike - Cruel Summer Vol. 4
DJ Suss One - Tribute to Big Pun
Paul Wall - How To Be A Player
Swishahouse - Major Without A Major Deal
DJ Yellaboy - Screw Phenomonon

thoed in da game, Saturday, 14 August 2004 13:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually just get the Z-Ro cd, it has the best break-up rap song ever called "I Hate U Bitch". He's in prison as well so he needs your money!

thoed in da game, Saturday, 14 August 2004 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah, also the Royce.

The Jadakiss album doesn't hang together for me really, but it has plenty of great indiviual tracks, which is enough. The Lil Flip I'd say the same about except it was a letdown from his mixtapes, and the whole double album thing.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 14 August 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

z-ro has been out of jail for a while now man but yeah life of joseph mcvey is pretty good.

gear, get the lloyd banks album.

3333, Saturday, 14 August 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

theodore unit is the best hip hop album (i.e from start to end) ive heard in a long while.

splooge (thesplooge), Saturday, 14 August 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Jada, Cee-Lo, and Lil Flip are all ROWDY inconsistent.

You could really count David Banner's second album on this cuz it didn't come out til late dec.

djdee2005, Saturday, 14 August 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

lloyd banks, ghostface, dizzee, wiley, and petey pablo. the rest i can take or leave.

jess, Saturday, 14 August 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Ty- Upwards

A) this album was released in 2003
B) with the exception of that one track that sounds nothing like Ty and is completely dominated by Roots Manuva's guest spot on it, what actually is there to celebrate about this album?

Anyway, the correct answer is:

http://www.vecovideoemusica.it/musica/CAPAREZZA%20-%20Verita%20supposte.jpg

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 14 August 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Agree on Ghostface, Kanye, Cee-lo.

I'd add Klashnekoff and Slum Village in the not 'essential', but v. good category.

Mil (Mil), Sunday, 15 August 2004 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Has anyone heard the new Beatnuts, btw?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 15 August 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

what soulja slim came out this yr?

Peter $., Sunday, 15 August 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

lloyd banks, ghostface, dizzee, wiley, and petey pablo. the rest i can take or leave.

Jess in not liking madvillain non-shockah. ;)

No but serriously, have you heard the Trillville/Scrappy album?

djdee2005, Sunday, 15 August 2004 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

if i ever see it used i will. and i like madvillian! just not enough to love it. (also, i don't smoke weed anymore.)

p.s. new beatnuts good, not great dom.

jess, Sunday, 15 August 2004 11:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Extince is the Dutch Jay-Z (i.e. seemingly effortlessly the greatest)

Haha exactly, and Brainpower is desperately trying to be the Dutch Nas. Also, Def P = KRS One.

Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 15 August 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

new clipse! comes out in october

brock (brock), Sunday, 15 August 2004 12:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't the term "essential rap-album" sort've an oxymoron?

:::RIMSHOT::::


Oh I kid, I kid....

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 15 August 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Lil' Flip U Gotta Feel Me (and the screwed version by Paul Wall)

Ghostface Pretty Toney Album (not a patch on Ironman or Supreme Clientele and an album scuppered by sample clearance and Def Jam's relative lethargy towards it - see the solo Ghost joints that made the Theodore Unit project that were meant for this)

David Banner MTA2 (out December 23rd by whatever) - like a greatest hits set but still the dopest producer on the mic (fuck Kanye, the heard-it-all=before little shit)

Devin The Dude To The Xtreme - Honestly, it's the most endearing album of the year so far

Masta Killa No Said Date

J-Zone A Job Aint Nuthin But Work - Indie rap that doesn't take itself too seriously or isn't too lacklustre (like anything Madlib and MF Doom have bothered to 'release' this year)

Trick Daddy/Pastor Troy Thug Matrimony/By Any Means Neccessary - two overlooked southern staples

As for Young Buck, the single and the b-side are killers but the album is a missed opportunity, paddling in the standard G-Unit mire

CitySlanger, Sunday, 15 August 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

kanye west: college dropout
passage: the forcefield kids
dj danger mouse: the grey album
prince po: the slickness

Jay Kid (Jay K), Sunday, 15 August 2004 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

just listening to pretty toney again,it is really really good
not quite as good as supreme clientele,but i cant imagine anyone who is really into supreme clientele not loving pretty toney

no said date is pretty good too,don't think it tops pretty toney though

whats this theodore unit thing?

robin (robin), Sunday, 15 August 2004 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

No Said Date was pretty average.

I still don't understand the "heard-it-all-before" criticisms of Kanye West. I mean, his production certainly isn't groundbreaking but I don't think he's some sort of reactionary Jurassic 5 motherfucker either; his music is GOOD.

Pretty Tony is head and shoulders above Ironman, which has some amazing and classic cuts (Winter Warz, Daytona 500, Black Jesus, All That I Got Is You) and some really shitty stuff too. Plus Ghost has only improved as an MC, it sounds much more like a Ghostface CD than a Wu-Tang CD or a RZA CD like Ironman. Ghostface is a lot more focused on Pretty Tony than on even Supreme Clientele (although I would argue that sacrificed part of the off-the-wall rapping ["ayo this rap is like ziti!"] that made SC so fascinating). I think the sample clearance criticisms are stupid - its a great album any way you slice it, regardless of what great songs AREN'T on it, the songs that ARE on it are great.

Devin the Dude is hot, fucking awesome.

djdee2005, Monday, 16 August 2004 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I just bought a couple of CDs, one of which was Venomous Villain by Viktor Vaughn, and the guy behind the counter implied that MF Doom was too mainstream, and rattled off a list of "backpacker rap" that he liked, as he put it. Said something like "those are the guys who put the love into it man, they're not about the packaging."

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 16 August 2004 03:33 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post

Theodore Unit - my friend just dl'ed this and was telling me about it. It's Ghostface, Kryme Life, Cappadonna, Wigs, Du-Lilz, Trife Da God, and Solomon Childs.

Joseph Pot (STINKORâ„¢), Monday, 16 August 2004 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha cappadonna is awful.

"I jism like a giant."

djdee2005, Monday, 16 August 2004 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I generally like his guest spots i.e. "Daytona 500" but Cappa's albums are weak. He certainly didn't deserve to have greatest hits comp. put out.

Joseph Pot (STINKORâ„¢), Monday, 16 August 2004 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

While we're at it, lets add Eric Sermon's "Chilltown"

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 20 August 2004 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks for all the suggestions, this will come in handy when I can spend money again.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Nobody mentioned the new Goodie Mob, which has at least five spectacular cuts.
Kanye, Twista, Diz: all great.
Devin the Dude is head and shoulders. Top ten of the year, any genre.
I guess I really need to go buy Pretty Toney, eh?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 21 August 2004 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I was pleasantly surpised by pretty toney and emb's review of it in the voice was so k-spot-on.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 21 August 2004 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Twista is so fucking uneven its awful. I couldn't stand it.

I heard mediocre things about Chilltown, although the only song I heard from it was excellent.

Sermon needs to drop some more beats behind some big-name rap acts, his production is still pretty wondeful, bass-y, funky.

djdee2005, Saturday, 21 August 2004 08:15 (twenty-one years ago)


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