ILM Top 100 2000-2004: MOST HATED ALBUMS

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counting down (quickly) to the most hated albums based on the ILM Top 100 2000-2004 Poll results (the most hated tracks will be a separate thread)...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

all scoring just 1 'most hated out of the nominees' vote:

Afuken 'My Way'
Amon Tobin 'Out From Out Where'
Bardo Pond 'Every Man'
Belle & Sebastian 'Dear Catastrophe Waitress'
Bersuit Vargabarat 'Hijos Del Culo'
The Beta Band 'Hot Shots II'
Boards Of Canada 'Geogaddi'
British Sea Power 'The Decline Of British Sea Power'
Camera Obscura 'Underachievers Please Try Harder'
Cat Power 'You Are Free'
The Desaparecidos 'Read English/Speak Spanish'
Destroyer 'Your Blues'
The Fiery Furnaces 'Gallowsbird Bark'
Fog 'Ether Teeth'
Fosca 'It's Going To End In Tears'
Fugazi 'The Argument'
The Futureheads 'The Futureheads'
Goldfrapp 'Felt Mountain'
Jay-Z 'The Blueprint Vol. 1'
Joy Zipper 'American Whip'
Junior Senior 'D-d-don't Stop The Beat'
Kanye West 'The College Dropout'
Lightning Bolt 'Wonderful Rainbow'
Low 'Trust'
Madlib & MF Doom present 'Madvillain'
Mclusky 'Mclusky Do Dallas'
Missy Elliott 'Miss E...So Addictive'
My Favorite 'The Happiest Days Of Our Lives'
N.E.R.D. 'In Search Of...'
Nellie McKay 'Get Away From Me'
New Order 'Get Ready'
Queens Of The Stone Age 'Rated R'
Radiohead 'Amnesiac'
The Rapture 'Echoes'
Richard X '...presents his X-Factor Vol. 1'
Sage Francis 'Makeshift Patriot'
The Scissor Sisters 'The Scissor Sisters'
Shellac '1000 Hurts'
Spoon 'Kill The Moonlight'
Stephen Malkmus & The Jicks 'Pig Lib'
The Streets 'A Grand Don't Come For Free'
Sufjan Stevens 'Greetings From Michigan'
The Walkmen 'Everybody That Pretended To Like Me Has Gone'
Xiu Xiu 'Knife Play'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

with 2 votes each:

The Bees 'Sunshine Hit Me'
Bob Dylan 'Love And Theft'
The Cure 'The Cure'
Dizzee Rascal 'Boy In Da Corner'
Eminem 'The Marshall Mathers LP'
Emma Bunton 'Free Me'
PJ Harvey 'Stories From The City, Stories From The Sea'
Radiohead 'Hail To The Thief'
Rancid 'Rancid'
Xiu Xiu 'A Promise'
The Yeah Yeah Yeahs 'Fever To Tell'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

in joint 9th place with 3 votes each...

Gilian Welch 'Time (The Revelator)'
Godspeed You! Black Emperor 'Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven'
Interpol 'Turn On The Bright Lights'
Justin Timberlake 'Justified'
The Streets 'Original Pirate Material'
The White Stripes 'Elephant'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

and so, joint 6th, with 4 votes each...

Buff The Vampire Slayer, The Cast Of - Once More With Feeling (OST)
Sigur Ros 'Agaetis Byrjun'
Smashing Pumpkins 'Machina: The Machines Of God'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

why I am doing this in separate posts I don't know...


5th. Andrew WK 'I Get Wet' (5 votes)

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/worst/igetwet.jpg

He foresaw it you know...

3rd.

Radiohead 'Kid A' (6 votes)

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/worst/kida.jpg

Wilco 'Yankee Foxtrot Hotel' (6 votes)

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/worst/yankeehotelfoxtrot.jpg

Well obviously...

2nd. Ryan Adams 'Heartbreaker' (7 votes)

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I searched ILM but could not find a bad word about it...perhaps a case of people just seeing the artist's name and remembering all the crap they're associated with before the good? (see also the winner maybe, which is......)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

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Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Monday, 16 August 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

1st. 50 Cent 'Get Rich Or Die Trying' (14 votes)

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/worst/getrichordietryin.jpg

Far and away the most hated (NB: most hated != least popular!) album among those nominated, yet something of a surprise given the seeming popularity on ILM of tracks like the ubiquitious 'In Da Club' (yet it was no nominated for the tracks poll) and 'Many Men'. What is it about 50 Cent that has irritated so many (well, 14) people? If anything it may suggest that a shift has taken place on ILM in the last year with interest in West Coast hip hop seemingly waning here at least. 50 continues to divide critics with regards to his style and creativity, though I suspect many found his follow-up singles (21 Questions, P.I.M.P., If I Can't) letdowns...


the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Kid A was robbed, it's a pile of steaming poo

Porkpie (porkpie), Monday, 16 August 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

NO WAY! Oh no...

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 16 August 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn, Steve be hatin' him some albums!

briania (briania), Monday, 16 August 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

more people hate fifty than ryan adams = the terrorists have already won

pete b. (pete b.), Monday, 16 August 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, I don't like Fitty much either but DAMN!

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 16 August 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

You are all racists.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 16 August 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

"21 questions" is one of the worst songs I have ever heard in my life!

peepee (peepee), Monday, 16 August 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I just want to say that I didn't pick a most hated album, so I have nothing to do with the anti-50 Cent vote. (I haven't heard that album anyway, and probably won't unless it turns up in the library when I'm looking at the CDs.) I kind of hate a couple that I chose as favorites, as it is.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Monday, 16 August 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow... "only" four of the top "10" got my vote on the top 15 albums.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 16 August 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Matt please shut up/die/etc

Mediawhore, Monday, 16 August 2004 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it's "only" 6 for me. :)

Sean M (Sean M), Monday, 16 August 2004 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)

wtf? I don't mind 50 Cent winning as such, but the margin is kind of scary, and obviously representative ot some silent majority on ILM.

I voted for Hail To The Thief, porkpie. Damn that split vote.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 16 August 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I am most intrigued by the vote for Goldfrapp album. It seems an odd choice to get most worked up about.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 16 August 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone else besides me have their fave album show up on this list?

peepee (peepee), Monday, 16 August 2004 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, presumably lots of people.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 16 August 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe they were pressed for time and the first thing they thought of was 'Ooompa Radar' Alba...I can reveal who voted for it but am thinking I shouldn't in case they don't want people to know

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

This amuses me to no end.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 16 August 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I only voted for albums I actually heard.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 August 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I confess I do not know this 'Ooompa Radar'.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 16 August 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I also have to confess I do not make a habit of listening to albums I hate, so I have only heard a few tracks from 'Hail To The Thief' on the radio. I thought this was acceptable.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 16 August 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I have only heard about 15 of these albums in full

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow. I'd really like to know if those 14 votes were mostly ppl who just heard the singles or ppl who actually bought the album.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 16 August 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Just the singles, for me.
(Is the rest of the album better???)

peepee (peepee), Monday, 16 August 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know, I haven't heard it, but I imagine it as a sort of 3 1/5 stars, "fine within its genre" kind of affair.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 16 August 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

These are all albums I've heard. I stand by my vote. Which was for Ryan Adams, btw. I would forgive his personality if his music didn't make me twitch with pissedoffedness (note: not in a good way either, like Atari Teenage Riot).

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 16 August 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I would like to know
who voted for the Bersuit
record, and, um, why

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Monday, 16 August 2004 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I did not vote for
'hated' records because I
don't hate anymore

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Monday, 16 August 2004 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Them thurr dudes don't be speakin' enuff ENGLISH.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 16 August 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Apropos of nothing, I found out yesterday that one of the dudes from Scissor Sisters is from Lexington.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 16 August 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't hate me for not hearing the whole thing of the album I voted as the worst. I'm sure there's the chance that there might be one I'd dislike more if I had to listen to them all, but I'm certain that my choice is pretty solid. Just like the fact that there were a number of releases I haven't listened to on the original ballot which could have been in my faves. I was asked for my opinion and I gave it, based on what I've heard (and taking into account my apparent racist tendencies).

peepee (peepee), Monday, 16 August 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Where the fuck's America's Sweetheart??

I'm American, Monday, 16 August 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh wait, I exaggerated before, albums on this list I haven't heard, those by: Fog, My Favorite.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 16 August 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I love America's fuckin' Sweetheart!
But I still thought you would include it. MORE PUBLICITY!!!!

I'm American, Monday, 16 August 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

who the hell voted for The Futureheads???

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 16 August 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I did. Hate the Futurehead.

I'm American, Monday, 16 August 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I voted for 50. mainly because he was listed first and I didn't want to spend much time on it.

alan r. banana, Monday, 16 August 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Goldfrapp 'Felt Mountain'

Hahaha it's residual disappointment from when I first heard it. I was all, "What's this French poppy gloop?? Where's my triphoppy/Orbitalesque space opera???" and the subsequent luvvin it got/gets. But FWIW I find "Ooompa Radar" pretty charming.

Mr. Tony Plow (Leee), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh and someone tallied Bardo Pond's "Every Man" -- for which I voted as my favorite SONG.

Mr. Tony Plow (Leee), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I was the only person who hated on that Rapture album?

Reed Rosenberg (reed), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, no, but I guess you were the only one who hated it more than any other album on the list.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 16 August 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

'Hated on' in that active sense I meant. If I was the only person on the board who hated it in any terms, I'd be shocked.

Reed Rosenberg (reed), Monday, 16 August 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

omg this is so fucked up destroy ilm now plz

artiste, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

talk about the winners more!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

yhf was probably the most deserving of this award, good flashpoint for boring/indie/worthy/praised/recognizable/middlebrow/etc wrath. andrew wk is hated by fun haters ergo fun haters are those who hate fun. kid a is not a great record but maybe rhead's best and has cool prog noises thus is not worst. i bet the ryan adams is boring but why the rage, it's like hating on creed

choosing 50 is a symbol of corniness, suspect c.i.fx were voting on the basis of 21 questions/p.i.m.p not actually hearing the album, many men = classic^2

artiste, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

But "21 questions" IS that bad!

I mean REALLYREALLY BAD!

Is manymen that great, you know, to overcome the stench?

peepee (peepee), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

he survived being shot in the face nine times but will he survive this? i voted for my favorite cause i think the singer gives really bad interviews.

keith m (keithmcl), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

What is it about 50 Cent that has irritated so many (well, 14) people? If anything it may suggest that a shift has taken place on ILM in the last year with interest in West Coast hip hop seemingly waning here at least.

Which coast now?

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh! He was shot in the face!?!?!?
I take my vote back.
I like it now!

peepee (peepee), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Of those who voted in the poll, how many didn't vote for their most hated?

For the record, I can't be bothered hating anything, so I didn't fill in that part, and from a couple of comments above, I wasn't alone, so what's the breakdown?

David A. (Davant), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 04:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe Ja Rule bribed stevem????

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 09:58 (twenty-one years ago)

You are all racists.

Buddy, I voted...

See, Fiddy represents the massive pastiche of East London teenagers that is my almost 21 year old brother and because I genuinely found half the record boring, taking into account those I have listened too (the only alternative off the top of my todd is Justified, yet that has 3 of my favourite songs of the past 2 years, and 2 of them aren't the last 2 singles for reference).

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 10:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Where the fuck is No Pads, No Helmets... Just Balls????

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

where're the other godspeed haters?

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

You can't vote for an album you haven't listened to! That's just silly! The best songs on HTTT totally weren't the singles (though Alba might not like it anyway). Didn't realize there was so much hate for them here.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I voted for Godspeed Peter but then I asked Stevem to change it to Yankee Hotel etc. Don't know if he did. I was going only on albums I'd heard all the way through, too.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

haha - i love that godspeed album

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

btw: cat power - album
"fight test" - track

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

It wasn't the singles I heard, I don't think. They were playing albums tracks on the radio when it came out. In retrospect I think I meant to vote for Amnesiac, as I hated 'Pyramid Song' so much.

To be honest, I think this whole most hated thing is a bit daft.

I was going only on albums I'd heard all the way through, too.

Rockist.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i used to like that godspeed album, but i saw em with black dice last year, and black dice kicked my ass and seemed dangerous, while godspeed was just like this bunch of regular songs, except each note was played for 5 minutes each. plus their politics were sorta asinine. i liked it for the first 3 songs live, i guess, but then they played 2 or 3 more. it just put me off them in general.

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I voted for Godspeed

I meant to vote for Amnesiac, as I hated 'Pyramid Song' so much.

Argh, well, I just hope some of you liked that Low album so I got you back.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

When in Rock, do as the Rockists do, Alba!

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 05:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Woof this is just stupid...

That 50 Cent album is pretty terrific, on the whole. Not top 10 of the year or anything for me but its certainly great. I mean, its got fucking "In Da Club" on it. 21 Questions isn't great but its certainly not offensively horrible. "If I Can't," "Many Men," "Gotta Make it To Heaven" (or whatever that last track was called) = classic.

I don't get it to be honest...why the hate?

djdee2005, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 05:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I love 21 Questions!

adam. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)

This has reminded me that I also love "Ether Teeth" and "Rated R".

adam. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 05:33 (twenty-one years ago)

14 voters out of x amount isn't necessarily a sign that ILX HATES FITTY OMG. Let's see how he does on the top albums poll before we make any big conclusions.

Symplistic (shmuel), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 05:52 (twenty-one years ago)

All you 50 haters sound like this, you know?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

oh my god

())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

and furthermore

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

i didn't vote for 50 as a top album (tho i like it)but i wish someone nominated the g-unit album so I could have voted for it.

Symplistic (shmuel), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Apropos of nothing, I found out yesterday that one of the dudes from Scissor Sisters is from Lexington.

This surely can't be Nick Warner?

Quite true, actually. He went to my school. And all of my friends apparently know his father. I, on the other hand, am a loser.

Atnevon (Atnevon), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh I think I voted for 50 Cent, sorry. Too many dorks saying "Fiddy" Cent, "In Da Club" WAS and IS a terrible and dull single, he sounds stupid, he's dumb enough to have been shot a bunch, the fact he's black just wasn't enough to stop me

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 19 August 2004 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)

How did Mclusky make this list? Hard to believe they would be on it.

Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Thursday, 19 August 2004 12:57 (twenty-one years ago)

because they're utter crap?!?!1

())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Thursday, 19 August 2004 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know why people are so surprised about the 50 hate. the #1 rule of pop music is that the more popular you are, the more people who don't like what you do are going to know who you are and actively dislike you. 50 is hugely popular, therefore he is also hugely unpopular.

I voted for the Amon Tobin album, not so much because I actually hate it but because it's so much worse than any of his other albums and I was annoyed to see it on the list.

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Al's right. I wouldn't have voted for 50cent if he wasn't so popular...cuz if he was less popular, maybe I wouldn't have been subjected to "21questions"!!!!!!!

peepee (peepee), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I voted for GYBE. It was a half-hearted vote, but it was one of the only albums on the list that I heard once or twice and decided I didn't really like it. I could make a case for nearly all other albums on the list I've heard; I couldn't make a case for that one.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

GYBE was pretty fuckin tempting. Where's the most hated track thread? Eww "Hotel Yorba" eww

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know why people are so surprised about the 50 hate. the #1 rule of pop music is that the more popular you are, the more people who don't like what you do are going to know who you are and actively dislike you. 50 is hugely popular, therefore he is also hugely unpopular.

I don't think the rest of the list allows for this interpretation, Al.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I am pretty proud my nomination got 2nd place in most hated.

bnw (bnw), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

if you hate

the blueprint
original pirate material
hot shots ii
miss e... so addictive
boy in da corner
the marshall mathers lp
justified
get rich or die tryin'

please make yourself publicly known so that i might save myself the future inconvenience of taking your music opinions at all seriously.

m. (mitchlnw), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Now about the second and third to last choices there.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I hated on Shellac

artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Who the fuck voted for Gillian Welch?
I mean, okay, you don't like her I understand.
But how do you HATE Time's a Revelator?
Maybe you turn it off; nobody HATES it.
Jesus, people.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I voted for Gillian Welch. I bought it because all the sources that I used to like back then told me it was fab, and i din't turn it off after not getting into it the first time because I know that folsky singer/songwriter stuff sometimes takes a long while to completley set in. But then it didn't, even after multiple listens. And it all just sounded so dire and pompous and sleepy. And the uptempo song sounded reverential: I'm not knee-jerk against academics writing w/ common foak personas or anything, but in that song it does ring so totally false.

And then there were ppl championing it as an alternative to mainstream Country (as alt country albums always get, of course, that ain't Welch's fault) and other ppl going "see, THIS is so much better than the new Ryan Adams album", which I was kinda into at the time. Still am, actually, kinda, he's cheap but I like all the ppl he rips off on that record, so I like the album all right. And I can't hate his persona because it doesn't mean enough to me.

But, you know, I'm awful at defending my hates, almost everything I wrote up there is basically bullshit (especially the 2nd paragraph, not the stuff about Ryan Adams but the comparsion itself, it's silly), I voted for it cuz it's the album that I most hated after buying it and expecting to like it.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

"pompous" is a bad word, she's not pompous about herself a lot, just pompous about the style of music that she plays, a bit. Or maybe not. Maybe "overtly humble" hits closer to the mark, but that's such a cliché accusation re: alt-country.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe she was just your most disappointing album?

I don't know; I like Gillian alot. I don't see any sort of pose or "persona" there. She rings VERY true to me and I'm a born and bred rural Southerner. All of the people I know who dig her music are too... tho' you may well be too for all i know. My point is that those who grew up don't seem to notice [or mind] that she's a city gal.

I would say that it's a top loaded album; after the first six tracks it's something less than exciting... but man, those first six tracks!

Revelator may be a bit "sleepy" but it's a song about monotony and hopelessness. Where you apparently see something dragging, I see a title made concrete: time is draggin' that lady down.

"My First Lover" is strident, ballsy and aloof; "Dear Someone" is a countrycroonin' heartbreaker; "I Want to Sing that Rock n Roll" and "Elvis Presley Blues" are good ol' honkey tonk tunes.

I'm certainly FAMILIAR with this argument regarding Welch; that she snoozifies bluegrass down so that Starbucks can fit it into their rotation but damn if I can see it.

Sorry if I came off a bit harsh there earlier; I really am a fan.

In any case, thanks for making me think about the album, cuz now I got it out and am listening to it again.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 August 2004 07:35 (twenty-one years ago)

These are the most Hated albums:

Every Song
What Was Behind
Unreleased Songs

It's a tie for the most hated Hated albums, because Unreleased Songs is boot off of a fourth-generation cassette and because What Was Behind was mastered at the wrong speed and Tonie Joy took the money and ran.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 20 August 2004 07:59 (twenty-one years ago)

that she snoozifies bluegrass down so that starbucks can fit it into their rotation...

this is a balls argument anyway cs it's one difficult album to listen to.

starbucks playing 'time (the revelator)' :: "Bangs and friends, out eating together, realise "Orphans" is playing on the jukebox, Muzak-style ("No more ankles and no more clothes/Little orphans running through the snow/Little orphans in the blood"). "Enjoy your food foax!" chuckles someone present."

cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 20 August 2004 08:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Starbucks customers, always eagerly paying attention to background music lyrics

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 August 2004 09:03 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah cozen, it's a difficult album to listen to if you're approaching it from an *actually listening* viewpoint, but it's very easy to digest if it's just playing in the background...it's like that with a lot of music, I've heard "Strange Fruit" being played softly in fancy resturants and shit. I can imagine Gillian going down well in Starbucks because she's not as rowdy as traditional country and doesn't have a thick accent. Which, again, is no fault of hers.

Haha Forksclovetofu, I'm just a no-good privileged European, I certainly got no case for declaring class war on Gillian! It's just that...well, you mentioned "I Want To Sing That Rock & Roll", which I had forgotten all about, and that song kinda defines what I'm talking about when I mention falseness...I mean, it's clearly written from a persona living in the past, like '53 or so, and much (though not all) of the album holds that same aura to me. Like she decided to write a few old Country songs, and approached that task as a historical/archeological one instead of as a creative one. Which is a dumb accusation, coz I'm a music history geek, too, and since I'm DLing an album of Oscar Brand covering presidential campaign songs I'm one to talk, but it just felt a bit joyless, a bit too academic to me.

I never understood exactly what the fuck the title song was on about!

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 20 August 2004 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
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a banana (alanbanana), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)


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