― manuel (manuel), Sunday, 22 August 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― stirmonster, Sunday, 22 August 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― etc, Sunday, 22 August 2004 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)
Chicks On Speed - We Don't Play GuitarsSpektrum - Kinda NewThe Rapture - Sister SaviourThe Truby Trio oneThe Chelonis R Jones one
― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Sunday, 22 August 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)
In this regard Tiefschwarz are kinda analogous to Basement Jaxx circa 98/99 (although not as revelatory, it must be said). Something like "Red Alert" was still in that post-phased disco/french house mode but you can feel it chafing within those shackles, wanting to bust out into something else - and by Remedy-proper you can really see that transformation taking place. I get that same sense with Tiefschwarz remixes: still obviously in the electro-house mode, but the emphasis on maximalism, the profusion of odd, conflicting ideas and an element of surprise, all the hints of *other* non-electro ideas and sounds being incorporated into the basic groove structure. I don't know if it's going to be Tiefschwarz or someone else who actually busts it open, but I hear a lot of potential in this stuff.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)
hee! i did this about three years ago (although i keep a tiny bit of the vox). it'll be available on an under the counter 12" sometime before the end of the year.
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)
1. Tiefschwarz are fucking great
2. It's like Black Strobe X Le Dust Sucker innit.
3. For all the electro-style-cues their stuff plugs into, it's actually some of the least explicitly thematic or moody of the new dark electro. Black Strobe material almost always broods or glowers in a very obviously goth manner. Tiefschwarz are just too in love with the formal qualities of the sonics they use to really care about what the music conveys as such. Like, at the end of that Lost'n'Alive mix, you can just tell they're thinking "Wow, aren't hi-hats the best thing ever". Or the goofy bassline in the Mocky mix.
4. They should have included more vocal mixes over dubs I think. Their stuff is sufficiently dark and tracky that it sparks off vocals and choruses really delightfully. The opposite is the case with the San Fran electro-house on the Uno Records Mix, where the material is close enough to traditional house that the dubs, by inserting a massive load of groove-science between the song and the listener, make things enormously more interesting. There's nothing weak about the dubs used on Misch Masch, but I miss Tiefschwarz' displays of flair for framing a vocal.
5. Tiefschwarz are fucking great.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 18 November 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)
Wherecan I find info about Tiefshwarz? (i guess i'm just assuming they're deutchers by their name)
i got mickey mouse motherfuckers remix the other day and the bassline just kills it for me.
the kinda new remix is s-s-s-sick too, in a way that neither hawtin nor villalobos could hit nearly as well.
― youngn, Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)
it's SO annoying, particularly since at every opportunity he's shown he's only heard about 2 tracks
the same dude called Headman an "Erol Alkan protegé"
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam... (nordicskilla), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam... (nordicskilla), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam... (nordicskilla), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)
the phonique remix, and the spektrum ones, are where I'd start, I guess. or where I did. it did take ages for me to realise how good the Spektrum one was though, until I heard it in a club I couldn't really get what was so good about it.
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam... (nordicskilla), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam... (nordicskilla), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)
does anybody know what this is sampled from??
― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 25 November 2004 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 25 November 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 25 November 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 25 November 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)
This has been a fantastic year, hasn't it? I think I'm getting as much, if not more, out of dance music at the moment than ever. Just so many "wow" moments.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 25 November 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 25 November 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 25 November 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 25 November 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 25 November 2004 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)
(Psst, RickyT Ivan Smagghe-Villalobos-Hawtin at Fabric this Saturday if you fancy it. We'll talk about it tonight).
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 25 November 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)
Its all in that triplet of crashing synthetic cymbal noises.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 25 November 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jacob (Jacob), Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)
Another Tiefschwarz mix was released. I prefer the new one.
― JoB (JoB), Thursday, 25 November 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 25 November 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)
you know how some train journeys are better than others...this one trawls through orderly futurist clinical industrial acres - arrays of arcs and spheres, funnels and pipes, rails cranking under the weight, carriages juddering and bumping at random. i'm not sure anyone else has ever packed so much in this way (Jaxx do a different thing obv.) but the sonic detail is quite incredible at times.
― Frankenstein On Ice (blueski), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)
I'm sure there are others who have :-).
The Chicks remix is still ranking no. 1. I'd like someone to send me the Kelis mix, tho'.
― Captain GRRRios' Giggletits (Barima), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)
who?
― Frankenstein On Ice (blueski), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Frankenstein On Ice (blueski), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Frankenstein On Ice (blueski), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Captain GRRRios' Giggletits (Barima), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― Frankenstein On Ice (blueski), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)
OK, maximalist dancers asides from T'warz and Jaxx? Orbital back in the day, the Prodge, maybe and the Chems. The choruses of the 'Heartbeats' Rexmix is pretty high in this regard. Richard X too. Hopefully, the minimalist trend will be on the way out for the time being this year.
― Captain GRRRios' Giggletits, back from the dead (Barima), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Frankenstein On Ice (blueski), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Frankenstein On Ice (blueski), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)
Steve, don't forget the Avalanches and earlier Cut Copy.
― Captain GRRRios' Giggletits (Barima), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Good Dog (Good Dog), Monday, 3 October 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)
― Good Dog (Good Dog), Monday, 3 October 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)
http://3voor12.vpro.nl/3voor12/groups/index.jsp?groups=16134994
― stevo (stevo), Monday, 3 October 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)
― Good Dog (Good Dog), Monday, 3 October 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)
― deej.. (deej..), Sunday, 11 December 2005 03:40 (twenty years ago)
― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 07:12 (twenty years ago)