The Wire - Derek Bailey On The Cover. Who would you like on the cover?

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Is Derek Bailey to The Wire what The Beatles are to MOJO?

Who would you love to see on the cover?

Dizzee Rascal.
Captain Beefheart.

― Wireman, Monday, 23 August 2004 11:22 (twenty-one years ago)

No-one, I always like those covers.

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 23 August 2004 11:23 (twenty-one years ago)

they should just be done with it and put frickin VAN MORRISON on the cover. mojo q magazine bullshit

― bob snoom, Monday, 23 August 2004 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

r. kelly
e-40

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 11:33 (twenty-one years ago)

ken dodd

― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Monday, 23 August 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)

'Is Derek Bailey to The Wire what The Beatles are to MOJO?'

no bcz I've never seen derek on the cover of it. However, it IS very MOJO-esque in the way it covers 60s avant-garde.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 23 August 2004 11:58 (twenty-one years ago)

5 to go on the front cover of The Wire:

Zan Lyons
Ulrich Schnauss
Isis
The Necks
Supersilent

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 23 August 2004 12:07 (twenty-one years ago)

covering the 60's avant-garde does not equal "adventures in modern music".
this issue. mego people again.
60s free jazz again.
old electroacoustic pioneers again.
nostalgic mollycoddling in well trodden territories. y'see if they put that on the front cover i'd not be peeved with them.

― bob snoom, Monday, 23 August 2004 12:08 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah that's why I said it was MOJO-esque. I don't like it, even though its informative and no other mag has done those kind of things or goes near that stuff.

I do miss those think pieces they used to have, or any undercurrents type series.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 23 August 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

~~The Beatles~~!

Nah, just kidding. How 'bout Can, or King Crimson's many incarnations?

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 23 August 2004 12:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Five suggestions for the Wire cover:

Girls Aloud
Brian Higgins
Kanye West
Todd Rundgren
Infinite Livez

This is what Ingram had to say about The Wire on his blog:

"I think their anxiety about including a greater spread of music stems largely from a distaste of that perennial social studies bugbear, the "taking Madonna seriously" syndrome. However if that means we don't see turgid writing by the clever brigade who've lost touch with the cutting-edge of music then I'm happy."

Of course the whole point of Sinker's Wire - as was heavily telegraphed even in Cook's Wire - was that Madonna and Albert Ayler should be taken equally seriously (I think Ingram meant to say cultural studies rather than social studies). If the current Wire were to adopt this outlook, they might persuade a few more people to read them.

And as for Ingram's wearily predictable jibe at we-all-know-who-but-he's-too-shit-scared-to-name-names: well, who needs the "clever brigade" when we're quite happy with the stupid brigade currently employed by the Wire?

Anyone who thinks anything covered by the Wire of 2004 is anywhere remotely near the cutting edge of anything is seriously deluded.

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 23 August 2004 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't the wire making money for the first time evah tho'?

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 23 August 2004 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck knows how. Maybe Thurston Moore and Jim O'Rourke gave them some leftovers from their parents' trust funds.

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 23 August 2004 12:57 (twenty-one years ago)

wow, is that ever misinformed.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 23 August 2004 12:57 (twenty-one years ago)

OK maybe Kim Gordon made 50 people redundant and contributed their annual salaries to the magazine provided they were nice about Arthur "Care In The Community Doesn't Work" Doyle.

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 23 August 2004 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)

okay, see now at least that's funny.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 23 August 2004 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Well that's the thing, ppl are reading this thing now - and even if they didn't get there by following the 'right' path (well it kind of does 'fit' what with cook/sinker taking it from a jazz to more of a pop mag- and then tony herrington following that) - then there's no reason to change.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 23 August 2004 13:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll believe that when I see the ABC circulation figures.

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 23 August 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm actually really enjoying the wire at the moment, more so than i ever have before. i'd actually prefer that they pretty much stick with what they're doing; i can (and do) get my girls aloud/dizzee/whatever coverage elsewhere.

― toby (tsg20), Monday, 23 August 2004 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)

They should get Peter Wyngarde on the cover. Ironic yells of "RAPE RAPE RAPE-RAPE-RAPE!" a full six years before Throbbing Gristle got going!

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 23 August 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Mojo sticks Beatles/Dylan etc on the cover to please the 'old' readers who have been buying for years. The Wire has to put someone non mainstream/rock/indie for the same reasons.
Hence the letters complaining about Mercury Rev, Sigur Ros ,Radiohead etc when they had covers.

― Arthur Askey, Monday, 23 August 2004 13:23 (twenty-one years ago)

more stuff from Ingram on the wire:

''The mag may have
it's detractors these days but let's face it, they're hardcore aren't they! They're
doing their thing and surviving. I have a respect for that.''

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 23 August 2004 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Big deal. You could say the same thing about the B*P.

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 23 August 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

they should put fucking HAWKWIND on the cover!!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 23 August 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Kirsten Dunst

― frankE (frankE), Monday, 23 August 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Supersilent seconded

Wolf Eyes deserve a cover
so does Boyd Rice
and Dead Machines

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Avenue D

― Flyboy (Flyboy), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

WOLF EYES

― geeta, Monday, 23 August 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Big deal. You could say the same thing about the B*P

jeezus fucking WEPT - i am *so damned tired* of seeing people i know, and happen to quite like, being aligned with/likened to/associated with the most hateful kind of prejudice going. this is not funny or clever; it's the absolute outer limit of internet craziness, hurtful, damaging and, frankly, downright sick. if people have to vent their paranoid neuroses on others who are doing them no harm, for crying out loud, just call them wankers or something like normal civilised folks do.

― stelfox, Monday, 23 August 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

for what it's worth, that issue also had a good piece by phil sherburne on thoas melchior, a lovely epiphany by geet and a few other things i enjoyed reading. me, i'd like to see donovan bennett or lenky on the cover but i doubt it'll happen, so i'll just have to keep getting them in newspapers. okay, have fun.

― stelfox, Monday, 23 August 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd like to see Andrew W.K. on the cover.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 23 August 2004 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Or the Fiery Furnaces. Big feature on Electrelane.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 23 August 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Everyone knows that the craziest, most "out-there" shit happening right now is in pop music. I'd like to see covers featuring:

Ashlee Simpson
Shyne
Mobb Deep
Usher
Jimmy Buffett

― Mark (MarkR), Monday, 23 August 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Telstar Ponies

― Russ (Russ), Monday, 23 August 2004 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Jon Williams

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

what's crazy and/or "out there" about ashlee?

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Monday, 23 August 2004 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

crazy is where you find it philip!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 23 August 2004 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Why not Timbaland and Missy?

― frankE (frankE), Monday, 23 August 2004 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Steinski. A key influence on Shadow and others. Still great. NO FEAR nad the more recent STEINSKI'S BURNIN' OUT OF CONTROL are as good as itgets. Popular appeal too; everybody always loves him when I play his stuff. Ditto James Carter, the Klezmatics. I second that Dizze Rascal mention too.

― Don Allred, Monday, 23 August 2004 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd like a Barnacled cover.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 23 August 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Whats needed is an introduction to grime.

― Wireman, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 08:02 (twenty-one years ago)

What's needed is an end to grime.

― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 08:09 (twenty-one years ago)

it feels like wire dont even play their own game properly with this austere ikea lifestyle design thing, like if u want some hardass experimentalists then have the covers with a bit of spark. d bailey is a fun guy, have him dress up as gene simmons, same thing right? or whatever JUST DO SOMETHING even when they had the faces right close up it was quite stark and good

― prima fassy (mwah), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 08:25 (twenty-one years ago)

has any mag ever had a critic on the cover?

― prima fassy (mwah), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 08:26 (twenty-one years ago)

music i mean

― prima fassy (mwah), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 08:27 (twenty-one years ago)

There was a feauture or two on david toop, but prob not a cover.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 08:34 (twenty-one years ago)

The Guardian Friday Review has Petridish on their cover about once every 2-3 months. Usually when it's been a quiet week.

― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 08:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Why not Timbaland and Missy?

Hasn't there been a cover or at least an article on Timbaland? I seem to remember seeing T in the Wire. So I'd like to see Kanye West hugging Buffy St Marie. on the cover.

― jesus nathalie (nathalie), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 09:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I would like to see Derek Bailey hugging Evan Parker on the cover!

― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Sod hugging, I want KISSING with TONGUES!

― Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 09:37 (twenty-one years ago)

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what are you on about?
i am obviously not smart enough for this place.

― stelfox, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Slang works in the same way - create a language in a group, other people hear it, feel baffled, some are turned off but SOME want in, start using it themselves. Writing designed to exclude (no - designed to FILTER) is basic strategy, any 'journalism course' worth the name should be teaching it AND the mission to explain stuff.

When did you go all egalitarian, anyway?

― JSL, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

erm... always have been, always will be. i think it's pathetic to want to filter people out. bring them in, it's more interesting that way. wanting to write in the mainstream print media but only for a select bunch of inititates is adolescent at best.

― stelfox, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

the Wire should never have anyone on the cover. It should just be black text on a white background.

― dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Every good magazine ever has done it, though. It's not hard - exciting music gets made by subcultures, if you want to understand the music, you have to understand the culture - right? Its not filtering people out, its expecting people to do a little bit of legwork, put some effort in. Why shouldnt writing reflect that too?

― JSL, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

"So, basically everyone wants every magazine to be like freaky trigger/the village voice/seattle weekly/their blog."

Not at all. I've always liked the premise of the Wire--that there can be a marginally mainstream music magazine (excuse the alliteration) that's actually somewhat serious in tone. But it would be good to read pieces written in a Wire style about plenty of musicians who don't get covered in the magazine. Nobody wants to open the thing and read, "And then Thurston Moore came out and did a droning feedback noise set" (or whatever--insert Wire cliche here).

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

But Tim, what can I write about Sonic Oldth that the Velvets didn't already say better (and with no typos)? (def. not a rhetorical question)

― Don, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Some tracks on the Meters' CABBAGE ALLEY, like "Fade Away" defintley rock and wah, though prob won't trip anybody out too far. They even wahhhh Neil Young's "Birds," a ballad! Chuck: the CD brings the music and the noise a lot further out of the cave than did that normal-bias tape of the already-15-year-old LP I sent you back in '87.

― Don, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

That was meant for the Black Acid Rock thread!

― D'oh!, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Marcello, I would think that The Wire might want to get some new readers who have an interest in music, not just crusty record store addicts who have the names and discographies of every also-run memorized. I tend to pick up the magazine for good writing (which yes, has varied in recent times, whine whine, etc) but also to expand my knowledge. I might not know that Joe from that band from the early 1980s who left before their second album is now a solo artist on a label with no distribution in Sweden. I probably never heard of his original band.

God forbid anyone provide enough detail for someone to, you know, actually get in at the ground level.

― mike h. (mike h.), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Crass

― Russ (Russ), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 07:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Why not Timbaland and Missy?

what's wrong with that is that they shoulda done it AGES ago!

kanye west seconded
dizzee
mark nelson
mike skinner
ward 21
mike patton & rahzel

― Jay Kid (Jay K), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:41 (twenty-one years ago)

In whose world would Kanye West ever deserve or make sense as a Wire cover star? He's not part of their remit and thank god for that!

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:51 (twenty-one years ago)

agree and ward 21 shouldn't be there either.

― stelfox, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

this thread: 'ILX in not liking any music magazine shockah part 859'.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm at a loss to explain the Wire policy of "however you can manage it, you MUST mention the name 'Jim O'Rourke'!" (Or, rather, I'd prefer not to think about Chris Bohn's uncontrollable masturbatory obsessions.)

Hence, recent issues have featured such tidbits as a David Grubbs album review which begins with the superfluous phrase "Former Jim O'Rourke collaborator ..." (I've never seen a Jim O'Rourke review in the Wire which states "Former David Grubbs collaborator ..."). Then of course, well, any and all mentions of the wretched Wilco ("Jim O'Rourke! Jim O'Rourke! Produced by Jim O'Rourke!"). Really now, let's face it, would the Wire be writing about this group at all if the sainted Jim O'Rourke!! wasn't lurking about on their records? There was also the Bohn editorial expressing disappointment over the music selection in "School of Rock" (yep), because, after all, one of the music advisers in the film credits was ... Jim O'Rourke!! (Bohn, one assumes, attends only those films tangentially related to Jim O'Rourke!!)

Other useful info I've gleaned from the Wire lately: did you know that Sonic Youth's line-up includes - you guessed it - Jim O'Rourke!! Why not tell us something we don't already know, eh? (Or something equally informative, viz. "Sonic Youth includes Thurston Moore!")

Even Smash Hits wasn't this shameless in their whoring.

― Totally Wired, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

LOL

― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Names one sees repeatedly in The Wire. In no partic. order:

Derek Bailey
Jim O'Rourke
AMM
SUN000))) (or however you spell it)
Tetsuo Inoue
Robert Wyatt

overandoverandover. But I like the rag anyway - very much.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

THIS is what Bohn wrote in the March 2004 issue:

"I'd be feeling really left out if it weren't for the excellent cribsheet Sight & Sound. Its policy of running full credits with film reviews alerted me to the film's major selling point, arguably, for Wire readers: the presence of Sonic Youth's Jim O'Rourke as one of its three music consultants. Only, any expectations his credit raises are dashed by the rock songs listed on the soundtrack."

Poor Mr. Bohn - his hopes and dreams so brutally extinguished. (And thanks for projecting your insanity onto the poor unfortunate reader, you clinically deranged idiot.) Sure, I bet lotsa Wire readers comb Sight & Sound looking for Jim O'Rourke!! bureaucratic advisory roles. "Major selling point" indeed!

I'd like to see a Wire issue with Jim O'Rourke!! on the cover, and every page of text consisting of the line "Jim O'Rourke!! Jim O'Rourke!! Jim O'Rourke!!" ad infinitum. That would at least be more honest. (Raygun would've done it!)

― Totally Wired, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

LOL again!

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Names one sees repeatedly in The Wire. In no partic. order:
Derek Bailey
Jim O'Rourke
AMM
SUN000))) (or however you spell it)
Tetsuo Inoue
Robert Wyatt

overandoverandover.

See also:

Keiji Haino (the real champ)
Albert Ayler
Sonic Youth
Coil
Nurse With Wound

― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 26 August 2004 08:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Plus anything Japanese is fine by Wire

― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 26 August 2004 09:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Shiina Ringo cover then, please

― (Jon L), Thursday, 26 August 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

SUN PM0:00

― ())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Thursday, 26 August 2004 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes. Not that they'd ever have the balls.

― lou reed, Friday, 27 August 2004 04:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Jim O loves rock songs is in a rock band what kinda songs did they expect him to pick for 'School of Rock' anyway? That's not just obsessed that's insane!

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:48 (twenty-one years ago)

School Of Rock, a film starring Jack Black teaching private school kids how to play rock songs. Featuring the music of Terry Riley and Philip Glass.

― wetmink (wetmink), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm pretty sure the Wire guy expected SCHOOL OF ROCK to be accompanied by the sounds of Luc Ferrari's "Stratvarius" and Takayanagi's "Free Form Suite" and Judee Sill's "Lopin' Along Through the Cosmos". Wouldn't you??

― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:01 (twenty-one years ago)

The Wire needs to to The Primer: Yes.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I bet O'Rourke tossed in the complete works of Bernhard Guenther on the "School of Rock" soundtrack. Unfortunately, the ambient noise of the dialogue obscured it completely. But6 if you strain to listen really, really hard ...

― Totally Wired, Friday, 27 August 2004 07:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes? And what happens then?

― John Ashcroft, Sunday, 29 August 2004 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)

... very quiet wee avant-faeries leap out of yr speakers; armed they are with teeny notebooks full of lost cornelius cardew graphic scores and john cage zen instructions. but only if ye believe shall ye see them.

― Totally Wired, Sunday, 29 August 2004 05:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Seeing Bailey on the cover, I sighed, thinking it'd just be loads of old improv dogma. But the article is exceptional, some great comments about bebop, and the general vibe of a lone guitarist trying to tear up his roots and lose himself with unfamiliar bands in a new city. It's terrific.

As for Primers The Wire should do- disco is long overdue a guide to producers and important tunes; you could do it from a studio wizardry type perspective, which would obviously suit The Wire. An in depth look at Patrick Adams, Leon Burgess and that lot. Also a long thinkpiece/guide to female rappers would be handy.

And in general- I think The Wire would benefit from more of what Stelfox points out, ie information to let people in, rather than less.

― Derek Walmsley, Monday, 30 August 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i think they should do my 1998-2004 dancehall primer (possible, but not secured yet) – and re the two things derek points out, what has happened to peter shapiro? he'd do excellent disco and female rap pieces, but the main thing that gets me with this thread is that if you want to read about mary kate and ashley, the cheeky girls and whatver utter shite ilm poppist doctrine is pushing this week, or you know eberything there is to know about absolutely everything and are annoyed by the wire's dumbed down, prole-pandering editorial position, why the hell are you reading it? i get a bit irritable with it and go through stages of buying it and not buying it (normally based on a quick flick through, looking at what writers are being used and whether or not i could give a shit about anything being covered in any given month) if i'm going to hate it, i don't buy it.

― stelfox, Monday, 30 August 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate how they have a page for "Improv", a page for "Dub", a page for, what is it? "Avant Rock", a page for "Hip Hop". For fuck's sake - let's have one big fucking A-Z section and throw it all in.

Hate that, (and the fact that they don't acknowledge POP at all). Sleeve shots on all the reviews wouldn't hurt either.

I've been a subscriber to the WIRE for a number of years but I've decided to let my subsription lapse. There's much better shit online. Good luck to 'em - but fuck 'em. Too constipated.

― Otar Iosseliani, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 06:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Names one sees repeatedly in The Wire. In no partic. order:
[...]

The real real champ is John Cage. In the second-to-last issue (approx), I think about 2 out of the first 20 text pages (ie not ads or full-page pics) didn't refer to him in some place.

― OleM (OleM), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 07:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate how they have a page for "Improv", a page for "Dub", a page for, what is it? "Avant Rock", a page for "Hip Hop". For fuck's sake - let's have one big fucking A-Z section and throw it all in.

well that would be an unholy fucking mess. also i like the fact that people like phil s, hua hsu and dave tompkins get given an entire page to flex their styles. it's nicer to read that way. these are the pages i like best. the lack of visuals dfoes make them a bit bleak-looking, but really i'm not so bothered. i'd rather have good words than pretty pictures i can see if i go into a record store anyway.

― stelfox, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I agree

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)

anyway how is this ridiculous thread still running

― stelfox, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

HOLGER CZUKAY

― ())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

seconded.

>anyway how is this ridiculous thread still running

because we all read the wire.

― (Jon L), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, one possible question about it is why is something like dub so consistently significant that there should be an entire PAGE of dub reviews every single month? Maybe it is--I don't know--but again, this thread was seemingly to suggest that there are things that they cover too much and things that they never cover.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

the was an intersting letter about 6 months ago about the whole-page-of-dub-reviews issue.

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Juan Atkins

Wolfgang Voight

John Stewart

― hector (hector), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Master P: A Seven Year Survey

― peter $22, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Mika Vainio
Cluster
Pere Ubu
Chrome
Cabaret Voltaire
Trax Records (15 page super feature with artist bios, riverside and universal studio features, record discriptions, pressing and mastering info, Musicbox, WBLS/HotMIX5...not like 1986 d00d, acieed acieed, but like serious curatorial academic focus, disposable utility plastics as objects d'art, d00d).
Den Hague Electro revival(although it is past-tense)
Robert Henke
The 801
SPK
Asmus Tietchens
The Yamaha DX-7

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 03:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Juan Atkins was on the cover, around the time I started reading it.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 03:15 (twenty-one years ago)

if i were going to proffer a less cantankerous answer i'd "cut the kewl hipster posing, dudes!!" and put either yello, skinny puppy, or the cardiacs or whoever etc etc on the cover.

― bob snoom, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)

ah... mist the word "say" in there.
now if they put jeff lynne / ELO on the cover maybe i'd buy an issue

― bob snoom, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:32 (twenty-one years ago)

obviously dub is a completely insignificant genre and, bearing in mind that steve barker uses his remit to write about just about anything reggae-related from breakcore to ska, dub to ragga, it's also plain to see that aren't going to be many records to cover. yeah, they should just scrap it - a whole page is way too much for the most productive area of music extant. while thy're at it why bother with piffling little genres like hip-hop and electronica? in fact how the hell can there be enough *music* out there to fill a WHOLE magazine EVERY MONTH?
(i really can't believe i've read such idiocy this early in the day, unless, given the time difference, it was written by an american on a particularly brain-wrecking drinking bender.)

― stelfox, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

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