ts: u.t.f.o. "roxanne, roxanne" vs. the real roxanne vs. roxanne shanté "roxanne's revenge"

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the debate rages

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 12 September 2004 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Still?

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 12 September 2004 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

shante all the way.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 13 September 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

shante!

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 13 September 2004 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

UTFO all the way.

I only found out the history to these tracks this year. I heard them on Electro 6 when I was an embarassingly bad breakdancer at the age of 11, but they mix two of the tracks together so from 1985 until about six months ago I thought Roxanne was part of UTFO. Now that I've downloaded the original tracks I've got to say the UTFO one is excellent, the others are crappy cash-ins.

― Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Monday, 13 September 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Roxanne Shanté’s "Roxanne’s Revenge" is the fiercest, funniest, best of the Roxanne battle by far, and Shanté’s one of my five or six favorite rappers ever - but actually The Real Roxanne album is more consistently passionate and lively than either of the Shanté albums. Christgau's review: "Roxanne Shanté's the real Roxanne. This one's the real Lisa Lisa - smart, fast-talking, Puerto Rican and proud, up on the get down."

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 September 2004 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but the "real roxanne" one was on the UTFO album. So it was more of a continuation of the story than a cash-in by an outsider. I mean, presumably she had some connection to the group. Plus it was great! "I don't like your rap cuz your rap is dead / Educated Rapper no sense in your head" !

― Reed Moore (diamond), Monday, 13 September 2004 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post

― Reed Moore (diamond), Monday, 13 September 2004 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Not as good as UTFO, though.

― Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Monday, 13 September 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

She said she had to go but she'd be back by 8
so I called at 9 to arrange a date
(did you take her to the beach?)
That's what we planned,
but she stood me up
Roxanne Roxanne

― Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

u guys see this segment in Beef II???? The Real Roxanne put in her recording contract that WB or whoever had to pay for her schooling so she quit music and she got a PHD!!!

― big chaki (chaki), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, Shante all the way!

I swear, you can practically HEAR her grinning.

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 16 September 2004 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

The real question is: "Roxanne's Doctor" -vs- "Roxanne's Parents"

I have a copy of "Roxanne's Doctor" by Dr.Freshh, but i've never actually heard "Roxanne's Parents" before.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 16 September 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

according to this awesome "greatest hits of rap" tape my brother and i got for christmas from our grandmother in like 1988 or something...

"now educated rapper/imma give you a fit/cause if you try to talk to me/you is full of sh[BEEEEEP!]"

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 16 September 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Roxanne Shante, hands down, my personal fave being "Go On Girl", from the Colors soundtrack:

"Set you on the table with a plate & cup / Say grace / and then eatcha ass up!"

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 18 September 2004 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Roxanne Shante is wickedly funny and intelligent. Whether she wrote her lyrics or not is another contention (Marley Marl, maybe?), but her layrical put-downs and feminine jousts are akin to Jay-Z's to some extent.

I am reminded of the criminally underplayed "Big Mama" track were she tears strips outta Latifah, MC Lyte, Yo-Yo, Isis, Salt'n'Pepa and Monie Love, etc. This has to be one of the most deft and deadly put-down cuts in hip-hop, period. Fucking hilarious, and it has also been sampled DJ Shadow and Death In Vegas to ill effect.

There ain't many female MC's who can really touch her around today either. God Bless her!

― herbalizer12 (herbalizer12), Saturday, 18 September 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

shante is the living embodiment of the word "sassy", and god bless her.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

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