MM Food - what do we think?

did doom do all the beats?

how many guests are on it?

the last two determine if i'm willing to shell out for another piece of shit (VV)

yeah, that's not saying too much though. can anyone tell me about the jazz-lite on mmfood?

any predictions when madvillian 2 will be coming out? seems like it shouldn't be long considering madlib and doom's work-rate...

so is this out?

1. From my understanding, there are some fake versions of the album running about on soulseek; i downloaded one version only to have rollie inform me that it wasn't the real deal (even though it did have the spectacular track "One Beer" on it.

2. the buzz i heard was that this was in the same league as Doomsday and Madvillainy, perhaps not as good as those two but better than VV1 and KG and much much better than VV2

3. "One Beer" is so great

4. Doom is one of the few artists who is GREAT at constructing skits! His skits are so much fun to listen to, like "One Smart N****" from King Geedorah - a skit that is essentially a song (and a fucking wonderful one at that).

it's good but A) i'm getting kinda tired of him and B) there are too many skits. this isn't really that good a followup to operation: doomsday, as there are none of the monsta island czars, it isn't 95% produced by doom (there was at least one co-production credit on doomsday) and i dunno, he needs to get some new ideas, i think. do something radically different, because his steez is wearing thin. i'm not laughing as much as used to, i guess.

the songs from the old, old rip (super, kookies, potholderz, beef rapp) are still pretty fucking awesome, i miss a couple songs (guacamole with paul barman, probably couldn't clear the sample) and 'rapp snitch kanishes' is incredible (i love mr. fantastik), but yeah, it's extraneous either way.

take a break, doom

david, the best skit is not as good as an average song imo. and i'm a de la soul superfan. as you can tell by this, i got the real version.

two words: mac

'one beer' is pretty great, over the same beat as jaylib 'no games', it was released as a limited-run seven-inch during the madvillain release days. it's pretty fucking awesome.

Lyrically, it's middling. He sounds slightly less inspired, rushed even. Madvillain was a lyrical clinic at times, while nothing here really pushes my buttons. There isn't a 'Figaro' here, really. Still, I must give props to "Drunk the henny straight, couldn't afford the cherry coke" and "Mental note: return Bob's record/ Swear to God, he'll get a job then go rob Eckert". I appreciate his real talk lines.

It's not Operation: Doomsday by any stretch, but it is aight, especially if you didn't hear the leak.

"Average MCs is like a TV blooper/MF Doom is like DB Cooper" alone = better than ANYTHING on Madvillainy

"BARRED FROM ALL BARS AND KICKED OUT THE CARVEL"

that's hot

When I first approached this album I was like "Oh look, more MF Doom...great" (in other words, I was apprehensive) but after spending time with it, I'm going to say this is on the level of his best work, including Madvillain. And the more time passes, the more time I am seperated from the Doom market flood of 03-04, the more I'm going to love it, I think.

Operation Doomsday > Madvillain > VV > MM Food > King Geedorah > VV2

On MM Food, I'd only take maybe two songs (Hoe Cakes, Deep Fried Frenz) for a Doom POX.

i didn't really understand why you harped so much on the leak (i'm assuming this meant that another version leaked out before it was released)....is that a fair criticism to say there aren't enough truly new songs when they only cam out in leaked form..

The summer leak sucked, I agree...the album is much better though.

VV>>>Madvillainy>>>Operation Doomsday>>>MM Food>>>King Gheedorah>>>VV2

Matt, the leak thing isn't a major part of my criticism, just a personal opinion. when madvillain leaked, they remastered it and added 'accordion', 'rhinestone cowboy' and something else, i think. listening now, they smoothly fit into the mold of the album. this isn't the same for the 'new' cuts on mm food.

djdee, doom doesn't have a flawless album. few people do. it's a case of enjoying the best of op. d more than the best of madvillain, as i find them very, very close in quality. and the leak is like the same thing as this, except it had a couple extra, random songs and it didn't have 'rapp snitch kanishes' and 'vomitspit'. the songs are obviously remastered well, yeah, but there isn't much shift.

There's no way you could ever even talk about 'Madvillainy' in the same breath as 'Operation: Doomsday' - that latter is just such a special album (and if you've followed the KMD story it's the perfect third in a touching trilogy).