cheap trick's in color is still almost perfect.

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i checked again to make sure. not perfect cuz it can't be. ask the masons. their always has to be a flaw in the design. otherwise yoo r mocking god. but not an ounce of flab on it.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i love cheap trick...everything up through budokan is flawless and after that they're still pretty great.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

it's definitely my favorite Cheap Trick album.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Heard that Albini (supposedly) version of the disc? Any thoughts? I like the album the way it is, but the alt. version is still interesting. It sounds pretty significantly different, rawer. Does anyone know the full story? I've heard it's everything from a re-recorded version to a remix/remaster job.

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, I want to know more about that version as well.

I am much more a fan of the debut and Heaven Tonight, but in respects it's by a matter of degrees. What Matt said, really, says it all. And though I knew them vaguely from growing up and then from "The Flame" in high school, I have to thank the 1989 Trouser Press for calling attention to the early stuff. And so I bought the then-new CD for that first album and I was off.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)

That would be great if Cheap Trick had hidden Masonic symbolism in their lyrics. I'm going to go check and see if I can uncover any now.
I was going to nominate Downed as one of the best songs on that 70s poll but Cheap Trick were already mentioned so I didn't bother. The album cover to In Color is one of the greatest ever. It's such a simple yet effective gimmick that never ceases to amuse me.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm carly , i'm 12 from crete
" woke up with a monster"was my first album
my fave song is "can't help falling in love" from greatest hits
i like the guy's jumpers too.

― budokan, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Any love here for the Rundgren-produced Next Position Please? Count me in.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh shit, I should have nominated "Southern Girls" on the '70s poll! I wanted to pick a second power pop single, but wound up with a third disco song instead. So someone PLEASE nominate "Southern Girls" because it will be a top 10 pick for me when we get to voting.

― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 05:39 (twenty-one years ago)

The version of Albini's In Color session I snagged features a slowed-down alternate version of "Oh Caroline" that is beyond awful. Otherwise, though, the session is NICE, especially "I Want You To Want Me".

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 05:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I was going to nominate Downed as one of the best songs on that 70s poll but Cheap Trick were already mentioned so I didn't bother.

"Downed" is the best song on the album and probably CT's best, period. The bit when he sings, "Ooooh, you think of Jesus Christ" is perfection. Man.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 05:53 (twenty-one years ago)

i listened to this album twice on my flight from LA back to auckland, and yeah it is just supreme. favourites: downed, clock strikes ten, come on come on, southern girls and of course i want you to want me.

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 06:20 (twenty-one years ago)

"Downed" is the best song on the album and probably CT's best, period. The bit when he sings, "Ooooh, you think of Jesus Christ" is perfection. Man.

Oh yeah, I definitely agree. By the way, are there any other fans of the movie Over The Edge here? It's what turned me on to Cheap Trick and I still picture that movie when I hear Downed or Surrender.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 07:09 (twenty-one years ago)

for the poll i really think we should all just rally behind "surrender"

― andrew from near rockford (andrew s), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 09:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I am a fan of Over The Edge, Walter! It is my favorite movie. It opens with "Hello There".

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I prefer the debut -- closer to their high-energy live sound -- but yeah, In Color IS still almost perfect. Better songs, perhaps? Next Position Please definitely has some moments and Dream Police is quite underated, too.
Are there any bootlegs of their pre-recording barband days? Cheap Trick were unsung heroes in the dark days just before punk.

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 13:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never heard anything from the early days that wasn't on the box set...but who knows?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there any indication that Sony is going to re-master any of the post—Budokan records? I feel like there was at some point and have been holding off on a lot of those for a while in the hopes that they might...

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

That Albini version of In Color is pretty hot. It's slsk-able, and basically about as good as a re-recording 20-years-after-the-fact could be. It's not "better," per se.

And yeah, that record is essentially perfect. The first time I heard "Downed," long after I'd gone through a junior-high-era Budokan-enthusiasm, I was lifted out of a depression, instantaneously and for good, that had lasted over a year. It's no overstatement to say it maybe my favorite song ever, by anyone. Can't imagine not loving this record.

― Dark Horse, Wednesday, 1 December 2004 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

That Albini version of In Color is pretty hot. It's slsk-able, and basically about as good as a re-recording 20-years-after-the-fact could be. It's not "better," per se.

Also, Ned, there's a pretty great bootleg from 1975--called "Bun E's Basement something-or-other," obviously soundboard and probably sanctioned to some degree--that's mainly songs that were unreleased. Quite a few strong songs never made it to those first few albums.

― Dark Horse, Wednesday, 1 December 2004 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn, that's quite a testament. I've always really admired Nielson's empathy for those battling depression ("Oh Candy" and the more amusing "Auf Wiederstein" being the other tracks of note). It's very sincere.

So, wait: this Albini disc was a re-recorded version of the record? Sorry if I'm following this about as well as a dottering grandpa...

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I have some 1975 show from Wisconsin, but it sounds too poor to tell how good the band sounds, if that makes any sense. I remember reading that all the material from their first three albums dates from these early days, which explains the quick drop off in quality once Budukon hit. They're still great live, though.

There are some singers - like Robin Zander, Bruce Springsteen, Fogerty - who still sound great after all those years of screaming. What is it that they did right that, say, Peter Gabriel and Robert Plant couldn't quite pull off? Gargling? Voodoo? Eating babies?

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 2 December 2004 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Listening to the Albini recording now -- not bad. Gotta say, though: in any incarnation, that closing riff to "Hello There" is untouchable.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 2 December 2004 03:52 (twenty-one years ago)

And so fucking taut.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 2 December 2004 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

This is how it's done.

― Keith C (lync0), Thursday, 26 January 2006 05:19 (twenty years ago)

Many listen, few hear.

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 26 January 2006 06:31 (twenty years ago)

five years pass...

Reviving thread to point out at how furious the live version of "You'll All Talk" is on the last In Color reissue. Totally rocking my goddamn universe right now.

Love how Zander hulks out at the end and invents David Byrne.

― Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Sunday, 20 March 2011 09:02 (fifteen years ago)

five years pass...

wtf is with the band dissing werman's production on this? is the albini mix any good?

― dynamicinterface, Friday, 3 June 2016 14:57 (ten years ago)

i guess they wanted a tougher sound? they actually re-recorded the whole damn thing w/ albini in '98, or planned to, but abandoned the project w/out releasing anything. you can find the unfinished results on the internet. sounds good, imo, but doesn't improve on the album as originally released.

― like $500 billion in stuffed fart sales and I have an idea (contenderizer), Friday, 3 June 2016 16:20 (ten years ago)

ya i just think it's p funny that they apparently wanted 'i want you to want me' and 'southern girls' to sound tougher/edgier or whatev. i'll have to check out the albini mix tho maybe they are right

― dynamicinterface, Friday, 3 June 2016 16:38 (ten years ago)

two years pass...

i'm carly , i'm 12 from crete
" woke up with a monster"was my first album
my fave song is "can't help falling in love" from greatest hits
i like the guy's jumpers too.

― budokan, Tuesday, November 30, 2004 3:45 PM (fourteen years ago)

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 3 January 2019 18:47 (seven years ago)

one year passes...

dang what an album. i love the production on this. any other tom werman produced albums i should check out?

― Heez, Monday, 20 July 2020 16:46 (five years ago)

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