This is going to be a quick one, though. The aim being to publish the results while the 1000th Number One is still at Number One.
Here's what to do:
1. Take a look at the full list of all 1000 UK Number Ones, either as a text file or as a spreadsheet.
2. Select your 50 favourites, in order. Or less, if you wish. However, they must be listed in order: no tied positions.
3. E-mail me at [email protected] with your choices.
4. Don't post them to this thread. (Well, you can... but I won't be counting them.)
5. The deadline for this is THURSDAY 20 JANUARY, 23:59 (UK TIME). I know! It's only four days away! The pressure!
6. No changing your mind once the e-mail has been sent, because there aren't enough hours in the day, frankly...
7. Don't worry about supplying blurbs. Let's just get this done quickly, OK?
8. I'll be scoring the results with 50 points for #1 down to 1 point for #50. For tied places, the single with the most number of individual voters scores highest.
9. The results will be published on Friday 21 January.
(*) There are in fact only 997 singles in the list, once the three duplicate hits (My Sweet Lord, Jailhouse Rock, One Night) have been removed. However, I've kept Bohemian Rhapsody in twice: once on its own, and once as a double A-side with These Are The Days Of Our Lives.
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Sunday, 16 January 2005 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)
your asking a lot !
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 16 January 2005 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Sunday, 16 January 2005 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)
?
― :| (....), Monday, 17 January 2005 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 January 2005 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― :| (....), Monday, 17 January 2005 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Shane (Shane), Monday, 17 January 2005 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― :| (....), Monday, 17 January 2005 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― :| (....), Monday, 17 January 2005 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)
Here's how I did it.
Took the spreadsheet, and marked every "possible" with an X in column C. Did this quickly, working on instant reactions/gut instinct. Rule of thumb: if in doubt, leave it out.
Sorted the spreadsheet: Data / Sort / Column C descending.This gave a long-list of 119.
Went through the long-list, marking every "definite" with XX.
Did the Sort again.This gave a shortlist of 49. Picked one more from the long-list.
Marked all the "definite top ten" with XXX and sorted again. This gave a top 12. Arranged the top 12 in order.
Marked and arranged the "definite top twenty", and so on.
Shouldn't take more than 30 minutes maximum...
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 17 January 2005 11:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Stevem On X (blueski), Monday, 17 January 2005 12:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 17 January 2005 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)
There is already a runaway winner, and a clear gap between #2/#3 and the rest of the field. One of the three is something which I would never have predicted.
All decades except the 1950s feature at least once in the current Top 10.
309 songs (31%) have picked up at least one vote.
Keep 'em coming...
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)
No, I'm kidding. What kind of ecstasy were these people on?
"Brimful of Asha" got to number one? That song's so fucking boring...I'm amazed it did as well as it did Stateside.
― Ian Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)
I can't BELIEVE some of the total bobbins that some people have voted for, but rest assured: I won't be breaking the confessional sanctity of the Inbox. At least it's canon-busting.
Hobart & Stevem: That's two howls of dismay so far. Or whimpers of dismay, at least. I'd really like to post the results this Friday, but I'm a Listening Kinda Guy, so we'll see...
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 17 January 2005 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)
Namely ME: I put "Hello Goodbye," "Candy Girl," "Can We Fix It?," "The Cha Cha Slide," "I Just Called To Say I Love You," and "Xanadu" on mine.
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 17 January 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 17 January 2005 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Nick H (Nick H), Monday, 17 January 2005 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Horse of Babylon (the pirate king), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Monday, 17 January 2005 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 17 January 2005 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)
As for the 997 lines on the spreadsheet: take a look back up to the top of the page, where all is explained.
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 17 January 2005 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Monday, 17 January 2005 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 17 January 2005 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― billstevejim, Monday, 17 January 2005 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― billstevejim, Monday, 17 January 2005 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― David A. (Davant), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 02:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 02:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 04:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)
Plenty of non-canonical surprise choices in the Top 20; in fact, it's the surprise choices that are currently making the biggest gains.
One major hitmaking act has yet to pick up a single vote.
Three songs that have been voted as people's favourites have failed to pick up a single vote from anyone else.
I have danced in public to 13 songs in the current top 20.
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:21 (twenty-one years ago)
thats it for 'the final countdown' then ;'''(
― :| (....), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)
I think Alba is right though, 'Ghost Town' could well win this.
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 13:04 (twenty-one years ago)
1) Atomic Blondie 2) Wuthering Heights Kate Bush3) Freak Like Me The Sugababes4) Hot Love T.Rex 5) Brass In Pocket The Pretenders6) A Town Called Malice/Precious The Jam7) Paint It Black The Rolling Stones8) Beetlebum Blur9) Bright Eyes Art Garfunkel10)Eternal Flame The Bangles11) Get It On T.Rex 12) Imagine John Lennon13) The Hindu Times Oasis14) All The Things She Said Tatu 15) Blue Moon The Marcels16) Ghost Town The Specials 17) I Want To Hold Your Hand The Beatles18) Call Me Blondie19) Telegram Sam T.Rex20) The Drugs Don't Work The Verve 21) Stand By Me Ben E. King22) Oops... I Did it Again - Britney23) Metal Guru T.Rex 24) Nothing Compares 2 U Sinead O'Connor 25) Round Round Sugababes26) Runaway Del Shannon 27) Some Might Say Oasis 28) Sunday Girl Blondie29) Heart Of Glass Blondie 30) Country House Blur31) Don't Look Back In Anger Oasis32) I'm a Believer - The Monkees33) The Tide is High - Blonde34) Are You Lonesome Tonight Elvis Presley 35) Space Oddity David Bowie36) Unchained Melody The Righteous Brothers37) Yellow Submarine / Eleanor Rigby The Beatles38) You Really Got Me The Kinks39) Get off my Cloud - Rolling Stones40) Sound of the Unerground - Girls Aloud41) Kiss Kiss Holly Valance 42) Sad Sweet Dreamer Sweet Sensation43) Should I Stay Or Should I Go The Clash44) Maria Blondie 45) Back For Good Take That46) Profesisonal Widow - Tori Amos47) Toxic... Britney48) Beat Surrender The Jam 49) Like A Prayer Madonna50) You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin' The Righteous Brothers
― Music Mick, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 14:00 (twenty-one years ago)
This was a No.1? How did I miss this?
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 14:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)
I think I voted for all the other Blondie No.1s in my 50, though.
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)
But who was in second? (Answer in five)
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)
Four songs have pulled 100 points clear of the field, with the lead constantly swapping between them.
One act has two singles in the Top 10.
Over half the singles on the list now have at least one vote.
There is one particular single - well regarded, rarely disliked, strong song, generally does pretty well in these sorts of things, would have predicted it as a Top 100 cert - which has yet to pick up a single vote.
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 08:55 (twenty-one years ago)
Excellent. Look forward to the big list and write up.. I assume one of the songs in the "top 4" is one of those in the "25 year Best Song" brit award nom...
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 09:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 09:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Horse of Babylon (the pirate king), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 10:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 10:39 (twenty-one years ago)
Giving 50 points to our top choice and one point to our number 50 skews the vote massively. These are the top fifty out of a thousand songs, so surely it should be 1,000 points for the number one and 950 for number 50? The results would probably be very different (and would make lots more work for Mike)...
― davidsim (davidsim), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)
I don't think there's any 'surely' about it. There's no right answer. Assuming the points are supposed to be an indication of how much you like a track, the idea that your favour drops in a linear way from the top to the bottom seems psychologically unlikely.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)
Unlikely 'though I agree it may seem (and seemed even more so at the time), figures from the distributors apparently indicate that the quantities of 'Pistols singles that they were shifting that week were outstripping quantities of Rod's by a ratio of something decisive like 2 or 3 to 1.
I rather suspect that a lot of people bought GSTQ for all sorts of different reasons that had little or nothing to do with liking either the tune or the band....
-- Stewart Osborne (stewart.osborn...), January 18th, 2005.
Also, in Jubilee week the BPI introduced a rule which stated shops affiliated with record labels would be excluded from the list chart return shops when compiling the singles chart, i.e. excluding sales from Virgin and HMV shops, i.e. the shops where the majority of copies of "GSTQ" were bought. That rule was magically rescinded the following week. The head of the BPI at the time, John Fruin, was subsequently imprisoned for fraud.
Coupled with the fact that Kenny Rogers' "Lucille," which had actually dropped from 2 to 3 the previous week, suddenly went back up to number one the following week, this would seem to indicate that "GSTQ" actually was the biggest-selling single of Jubilee week.
― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)
David's system, despite one mathematical error (it should be 951 for a #50), does indeed produce different results. I've just tried it on the current Top 40, and positions vary by anything up to 14 places - although the usual difference is between 1 and 5 places, and the Number One doesn't change.
The arguable benefit of David's system is that it rewards songs with lots of lower placed votes, thus penalising songs with fewer, higher placed votes. However, you might still argue (as GP does above) that this favours the mediocre, the "quite good", as opposed to the songs that provoke the strongest reactions.
(Amongst my former work colleagues, who once ran a "who's the most fanciable famous lady?" poll, this is known as The Wynona Effect. This is because Wynona Ryder won the poll, despite never being placed much higher than about 7th. In other words, consensus won over passion.)
On the other hand... since you're picking 50 favourites from a pool of 1000, you might quite reasonably argue that all 50 of your choices are songs that you LOVE, as opposed to thinking are "quite good".
Which means that David has made a strong point.
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)
*** blush ***
Looking at the CORRECTLY sorted Top 40, a massive flaw in David's methodology reveals itself. Basically, songs are now ordered strictly in order of the number of votes cast, with huge and unbreachable numeric gaps between each group. Which renders the whole exercise of putting songs into order pointless.
As you were, then...
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― davidsim (davidsim), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― davidsim (davidsim), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)
Anyway, I'd like to see a vote on the greatest number 2 ever. Would Common People win it?
― Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Bumfluff, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Stevem On X (blueski), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― davidsim (davidsim), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ben, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Shane (Shane), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― davidsim (davidsim), Thursday, 20 January 2005 03:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 20 January 2005 08:12 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.base58.com/text/number2.txt
― Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 20 January 2005 10:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 20 January 2005 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 20 January 2005 11:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 20 January 2005 11:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 20 January 2005 11:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 20 January 2005 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)
Any one of the Jam's No 1 hits, especially A Town Called Malice. What will anyone have to say about the likes of 'Busted' in 20 years time?Paul Cook, London, UK
The very best No 1 ever? "I Feel Love" by Donna Summer, without a doubt. A groundbreaking track when it was released back in 1977 and still stands up well today. The worst? Anything by the Spice Girls, I guess.Nse Ette, Lagos, Nigeria
Surely the best number one ever, is In The Year 2525, by Zagar and Evans. The worst number one, Wannabe by Spice Girls, hard to believe that it came out in the same year as Firestarter by the Prodigy.Tony Evans, Southport
My favourite No.1 was Your Woman by British Asian artist White Town.Matt Fedak, Sheffield, England(sorry i am just amused by the pointing out ethnicity of artist there)
this country etc.
― Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 20 January 2005 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)
the idea that someone would like one but not the other is very strange to me
― Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 20 January 2005 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― Acme 2, Thursday, 20 January 2005 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)
I've received 43 sets of votes so far, which isn't bad for a tough task at short notice, and gives enough consensus to build a meaningful Top 100. (You need at least six separate votes to get into the Top 100, and things only start getting random and flaky below #150 or so.) Positions have mostly stabilised, and the Top 3 has been consistent for quite some time now.
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 21 January 2005 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 21 January 2005 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 21 January 2005 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)
but most of the no.1 singles are rubbish, tacky novelty songs.
i found it really quite easy to cut that 1000 (or 997) list down to about 55
― jellybean (jellybean), Friday, 21 January 2005 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)
If Fern Kinney and Sister Sledge do better than expected, you know who to blame.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 22 January 2005 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)
I also gave much love to Ms Kinney, hobart.
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Saturday, 22 January 2005 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)
I am surprised to find that I prefer "Can't get you out of my head" to "Ashes to Ashes", but apparently I do. Today. Right now. Ask me in an hour's time and I'll have changed my mind.
The top 3 were pretty easy. After that it sort of got random what went in and what didn't.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 22 January 2005 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)
I'm getting quite excited about this. Do we get the results tomorrow, Mike?
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Saturday, 22 January 2005 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)
I hadn't consciously realized it until reading this post, but my top 3 were sung by women too! After that, it gets a bit sparse, with 16 songs sung by women in my top 50 (including two duets with men).
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 22 January 2005 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 22 January 2005 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 22 January 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 23 January 2005 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Sunday, 23 January 2005 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)
Example number one: The Carpenters never had a Number One hit in the UK? WTF mang
― retort pouch (retort pouch), Sunday, 23 January 2005 07:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Sunday, 23 January 2005 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)