the double-album trend continues....

Contrary to popular belief, the band was not originally called Soil - this was an earlier, ill-fated band containing Serj and Daron. The name for SOAD was inspired by the title of a poem by Daron - Victims Of The Down. This was changed to System Of A Down for a number of reasons; Shavo objected to 'Victims', due to its 'narrow, personal connotations'. System was more vague, and it is intentional that the name is hard to interpret. It's also been suggested that beginning with S was a conscious decision, to as be filed with their great influences, Slayer, in shops.

I think you'd have to be a guy who mainly listened to 'dance' music and bad 80s 'alternative' music to dislike it. But that's just a guess.

Really excited to hear the new record.

Stormy, you have this odd chip on your shoulder which I'm willing to believe is not reciprocated because folks like Spencer have better things to do.

but no, I get it-- boredom is a bitch. no doubt about it.

Four singles is usually the standard amount for reasonably popular double-albums, and I'd like to predict 2 crappy singles, and 2 first class singles from this one.

Stormy, it's actually not something I do very often. Also, I've never clicked on a SOAD thread (and of course this is not one of them). I often get annoyed by haters and meh-ers, especially knee jerk ones (which is maybe what you're doing to me, haha). Then I calm down and realize this is a message board, and if you have something positive and intelligent to say, then say it, because people will read that too. The question about SOAD's name just popped into my head because they were mentioned upthread. I added that it's awful because it really irritates me for some reason, and I thought that maybe there's a good reason for the name (apparently not).

As for this:
I think you'd have to be a guy who mainly listened to 'dance' music and bad 80s 'alternative' music to dislike it. But that's just a guess.

I love 'dance' music and good (in my opinion) 80s 'alternative' music. This is true. I don't know if you really "guessing" but good guess. I also happen to listen to some other things. Also note well that I never said I didn't like SOAD's music, ha!

This has to be one of the stupidest things I've ever read on a thread, given the context. (Sorry, Broheems)

1900 -- no double albums.
1966 -- Blonde on Blonde
1969 -- Chicago Transit Authority, Ummagumma, Tommy, Trout Mask Replica
1971 -- Chicago III
1972 -- Exile on Main Street
1975 -- Metal Machine Music
1977 -- Saturday Night Fever Soundtrack
1979 -- Tusk
1988 -- Rattle and Hum
1995 -- Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
1997 -- Life After Death
1998 -- Wu Tang Forever
1999 -- The Fragile, To Venus And Back
2000 -- Red Line
2001 -- drukqs
2002 -- The Blueprint 2, Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
2003 -- Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
2004 -- Sweat/Suit

So we see that while 1969 had the most double albums per year, the frequency of double album releases has been on a rough increase. If we look at the trend from 1800 onwards, it is even more striking and evident

Carry on.

This post was pure gold.

Exceptions = Pulp & Bob Dylan

Surely it was an opera. In fact 78's used to come in multi-disc albums, hence the name "album".

This cracks me up because if I didn't know better I would assume that System of a Down was some kind of corny '90s techno act (are you ready to get down with the System?) or one of the many mopey '80s British bands with too-long names.

Is that from that Yo La Tengo video?

but here's the thing - for the record, I honestly don't have anything against you Ned! or Spencer. or slocki or DB anyone, really! I love this place, I love the personalities and I love the feistiness. I think you'll find that my dander only gets raised in instances like this: when people waltz into a thread merely to make some snarky comment. I guess it just bugs me. and it's not like I take it 'personally' or anything like that. I don't! Believe me, I don't internalize my relation to various bands to that extent. It's just the overall smugness and presumptiveness that kinda galls me. It's just so damn boring and pedestrian. look, I only meet invective with invective. Otherwise, I'm all about the love.

I guess I'm kinda like Nate in that respect. And he seems to get a pass when he gets all riled up. Although my taste is better than his (just kidding!! I love you Nate I am just having fun. see i actually do have a sense of humor about this whole thing)

anyway. double album rule. Trout Mask, White, Exile .. Music to Eat .. what is this thread about again??

This actually fits on one CD.

Well, it certainly sounds like you have something against Ned or myself. Referring here to: "waltz, merely, snarky, smugness, presumptiveness, galls, boring, pedestrian."

Also, this thread is not even about SOAD!!

Also, are you saying you've never said anything bad about an artist on this board in the same way??? That seems highly unlikely coming from a regular!

I'm just a big old fanboy who really loves music and gets annoyed at the inane one-line haterade that gets encountered too often. I mean ... hmmm, let me thnk about this. I didn't barge into Mushrush's 'Drivin' and Cryin'' thread, even though I think they suck (even though he barged into the Doors thread with some one-line inanity about how they "blow" or whatever)

Yeah, I am sure that I have probably dissed some bands on occasion. but I regret it! all of it! I really do. I love music. I try to stay open-minded. The only guy i hate without equivocation is Elvis Costello. And I stand by that. but everyone else is great!!!

but yeah, let's be friendly! I think I can do it!

oi you hypocrite, better admit you just wanted to say "sex" ;)

!!

Humming something while playing piano and then releasing it doesn't make it a double album, I'd think.

Anyway, ontopically, I'd say that since the advent of the CD age, we went through a several year period where there were pretty few double CD albums (pardon the wierd semiredundant terminology) since CDs had so much more room than LPs. Back when you could sell a healthy chuck of both vinyl and plastic, for exaple, I believe "...And Justice for All" was double vinyl, single CD. Then in the early to mid 90s people started aking REALLY long, overfillered double CDs (Guns n Roses, 2Pac, Wu-Tang, Pumperkins) and now it's fairly common practice.

alice and blood money don't count as a double album! they're two different things that came out on the same day. this itself is weird though, I think there are probably other artists that have done this but I can't think of any right now.

Frank Black recorded two new albums last year with Jon Tiven producing and with a host of Nashville session players backing him up. He recorded one the week before the Pixies tour started and banged out another album in a single 24 hour period during a day off the Pixies had in Nashville. So he may be doing the "two new albums out on the same day" trick again in 2005.

tell that to glenn gould!

Nope. I know of a couple other SC's - one is a pool shark in TX!

It would now if they reissued it. When it was pressed, CDs couldn't break 74 minutes for Warner Bros.

tell that to glenn gould!

and to Keith Jarrett also.

The absolute pinnacle of this sort of thing must surely be the Sun City Girls Dante's Disneyland Inferno and 330,303 Crossdressers from Beyond the Rig Veda (1996), two DOUBLE CDs released simultaneously (that's about six albums by most people's standards). This was even more astounding given that everyone was crying out for a proper new SCG album (following Jack's Creek and other such "curiosities").

I was so excited that my housemates at the time (Edinburgh undergrad days - they didn't understand) decided to hide the mailorder package on the day it arrived, only telling me it had turned up as we were about to go out for the evening. I feel that some of my inherent bitterness can be pinned down to this specific event of my youth...