but WHO can STOP ELVIS?

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Um, is it me, or is there very few singles being released at the moment?
It seems that as EP will be getting the next 15 number one hits as granted, no-one (so far) is releasing a big fuck-on hit single until "a little less conversation" is done. The Manics' was single number two off the album (and did quite well considering), the Killers' was a rerelease from last year...

Who can stop Elvis? But Who?

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 17 January 2005 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

a bucketload of chicken fried steak and perscription drugs apparently

― lukey (Lukey G), Monday, 17 January 2005 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Al Martino?

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 17 January 2005 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

And slightly avoiding the issue: shouldn't someone at Radio 2 or wherever wise up and sign up Ewing to do a weekly "Popular" programme, playing all the number ones in sequence?

If not, then I might have a word with the folk at Resonance and see if it can't be done there...

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 17 January 2005 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually the Who could stop Elvis. They've never had a UK number one single. Would be quite nice to have eight or nine in a row from them.

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 17 January 2005 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)

What I can't understand is why

a) people are buying old Elvis singles when you can pick up any decent greatest hits for a tenner

and

b) how come I can't actually find these Elvis singles in the shops? Are they selling so fast that they sell out immediately? Or am I not looking in the right shops?

And

c) why does anyone - let alone a record company like RCA or whoever owns RCA these days - care anyway about the Pelv's 70th birthday? What is the point of the rerelease schedule other than to annoy people and make some more money?

― Rob M (Rob M), Monday, 17 January 2005 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

a) Why indeed? The 10" 78 rpm re-creations are quite pretty, the cd single is a 'black vinyl' repro and also pretty. But 18 of them?

b) This is exactly what is happening. The shop opens 09:00 or 09:30, people are bounding in (prob) and buying them off the racks for £3.99 CD single, £4.99 10" vinyl. And then selling them on e-bay ("One Night" I saw go for £70. The lower the limited edition number the better price).

c) Care? Oh you answered your own, there. Plus all the elvis fans are quite keen on having their man be the 'greatest entertainer of the 21st century' as well, so more of the same, no doubt. Oh Otway, what have you started?

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 17 January 2005 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Does this mean that other record companies are going to start doing the same, the charts will simply be a place for reissues and will leave the real new music to the download charts? So young people are happy with the new technology and the new music, while old people will be happy with the 'real' charts full of 'their' music to prove they still matter. The charts become Radio 2 in essence.

Oh my God, what have we done this time?

― Rob M (Rob M), Monday, 17 January 2005 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Mark S, formerly of this parish, pointed out the weirdness of the TOTP thing the other day - they can't show the single version on totp (or anywhere else) and are showing alternate versions. why?

didn't the wedding present's 1-a-month thing break elvis' record for number of hits in a single year? is this his revenge?

― koogs (koogs), Monday, 17 January 2005 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

if Elvis denies Ciara her No 1... grr grr grr.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 17 January 2005 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes it did (xpost), and he wants it BACK!

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 17 January 2005 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

the real reason for these reissues is purely political. the scum of the new elite telling us through the cleverest possible symbolism what we are: America's serfs, dog tags round our necks.

the download charts are likely to be merged with the "official" ones before the run of reissues is over.

― robin carmody (robin carmody), Monday, 17 January 2005 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

.. but the number one 'download' quantity wouldn't affect the top 'sales' chart anyway?

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 17 January 2005 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

probably not. but it might lessen the damage.

― robin carmody (robin carmody), Monday, 17 January 2005 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

So, back to the question.

Who's forthcoming single will stop elvis?

(The limited editions are, what, 10,000?)

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 10:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Wedding Present

― Stevem On X (blueski), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 10:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, should we all go out and buy the Chemical Brothers' "Galvanise"?

(Where is that violin sample from, btw?)

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 10:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Wedding Present? Now that would make the front pages! YEAH!

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 10:22 (twenty-one years ago)

the real reason for these reissues is purely political. the scum of the new elite telling us through the cleverest possible symbolism what we are: America's serfs, dog tags round our necks.

Robin, seriously? Of course we are US lapdogs and of course serf's dogs tags are a body blow to liberty, but are there not bigger problems causing this than the rerelease of some records? If we listened to nice EU pop music would it help?

― Miles Finch, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 10:23 (twenty-one years ago)

The ACTUAL real reason for these reissues is RCA trying to make some last-ditch profit out of the back catalogue before it falls out of copyright, which it will do imminently.

― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 10:26 (twenty-one years ago)

.. "That's all right mama" is being reissued by Go-Quick records in April. I've decided.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 10:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Wasn't there some shady/desperate plan to prevent that from happening, coz copyrights in the US last longer than in the UK? EMI, I'm basing this on a half-remembered "Mojo" article...

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Apple are trying to contest it, given that in seven years' time the Beatles' back catalogue will start to fall out of copyright.

― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 10:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Will they re release all The Beatles singles in a few years time? Will we see the whole history of pop re enacted as a consumer nostalgia zombie? Will all those Wedding Present single be reissued? Why not re issue everything? IN 50 odd years time will Ilxers be buying holographic reproductions of the first issue of I luv U? Start the process again reverse history destroy the space time continuum and all its petty inadequacies.

― elwisty, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

the beatles' singles were reissued en masse in 1976. at one point they occupied a quarter of that week's top 100 singles chart. people complained of cultural stagnation. punk exploded shortly thereafter.

― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 11:52 (twenty-one years ago)

So stand well back and do not return to the charts until the explosion...

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 11:56 (twenty-one years ago)

also, rca reissued all elvis' (then) 16 uk number one singles in picture sleeves in may 1977. none of them re-entered the chart. elvis died shortly thereafter (at which point, admittedly, all of them suddenly re-entered the chart, but that's another story...).

― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 11:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Could this actually kill the singles sales chart as we know it? They don't have a sales chart in the US do they? Would this all completely remodel Teh UK Music Scene rendering venerable institutions such straight in at number 26 indie hits a thing of the past?

― elwisty, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:02 (twenty-one years ago)

"Straight in at" is what All singles do now. No-one 'climbs ten places' anymore...

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

well apparently they still do have a sales chart in the us but its diminution is evident from the fact that bright eyes recently managed to occupy the number one and number two slots.

― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

But you see, the download chart IS THE FUTURE. So we can have three solid months of U2 at number one instead of eighteen weeks of Elvis.

Still, y'know, this could be worse. This could be the summer and autumn of 1991. "Take me as I am... TAY-EEEKE my life..."

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

burger king /mcdonalds/peanut butter sandwiches ?

― happy mealer, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Athlete/Uniting Nations/Soul Central ft. Kathy Brown

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Wasn't the US Singles chart where "Return of the mack" was, for 50 weeks, or something?

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:20 (twenty-one years ago)

But you see mark I do not remember a time when singles DIDN'T go straight in. If you look at the British Book of Hit Singles the straight in at number one trend begins around mid 1995 as I was ten then anything before that is very faint.

William, aren’t Bloc Party the future this week?

― elwisty, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but that was kinda what I was meaning.

Although, the number ones do tend to go in at, then down slowly. But other hits tended to go on lower and go up a bit...

Nowadays, they all go in for a week at number 1 or 30 or whatever, before leaving within a couple weeks...

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Bloc Party get to be the future in two weeks. This week... Athlete ARE THE NEW SNOW PATROL. THAT'S what's set to be the most depressing thing about this week's chart, another guitar band does another over-emotive ballad and punts it out early in the year and gets a major-league chart position (Lex: they're beating Ciara) out of it. It's not so much that it's a bad song as that it's just hugely generic and points towards a formula that all guitar music henceforth will be following for the churning out of hits = IT'S JUST 'MANUFACTURED POP'!!!

Or something. I've not heard the Bloc Party single.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Bloc Party are not in The Athlete / Snow Patrol field or do they have a song as strong as Take Me Out or a myth like The Libertines. One of their songs had just randomly played and I want to say something along the lines of "They just write good tunes!" then I realized I am posting to ILM. Anyway I think they will give the NME demographic a quick enema.

― elwisty, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry. That has nothing to do with ELvis except they have a single out. By the way is there anyway of seeing the midweeks without working in a record shop or working in the industry somewhere? ie are they on the internet?

― elwisty, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i will say to Miles that i made the point i did because most of the Presley number ones were originally released at the turning point of the 20th Century in Britain; the time when, faced with the end of empire, Britain decisively backed the wrong horse for its post-imperial future, and is still suffering the consequences even today. Presley is symbolic of that time and therefore those who think we made the *right* decision then want to ram him down our throats forever.

all pop music is fucking worthless, anyway. this is the last post i make here, or anywhere.

― robin carmody (robin carmody), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)

all pop is manufactured, even if you just dreamt it.

i rather like that athlete single, despite myself.

― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)

and that's the point. all it does is stand in the way of a European social democratic future. i'm sorry i ever had anything to do with it. i should never have joined ILM in the first place, however different it seemed then.

oh ... *what's the bloody point*?

― robin carmody (robin carmody), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't consider myself as ever having "joined" ilm. i find it easier to keep it at arm's length.

― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Bloc Party are fucking ace but they don't have a Take Me Out or a Matinee.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Could that be their strength though? They seem to be coming from a very different place than the Franz.

― elwisty, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

~~KOMPRESSOR~~ELVIS CRUSH TOP 4O!!!

― itchy crabs, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

matinee?

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

(Lex: they're beating Ciara)

NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

From the BBC news website:

A Fool Such As I, the next in a series of 18 reissues, is on course to beat the Chemical Brothers to the top.

But his next single, It's Now Or Never, will face a challenge from tsunami charity single Grief Never Grows Old.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 10:44 (twenty-one years ago)

erasure "breathe" a big seller in the uk ?
will "nightbird" be big ?

― alien, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 12:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Robin - stay around, post more and make ILX a better place. I miss you!

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone complaing about the state of / death of the singles chart should take a long hard look at their harddrive.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

The Elvis singles are limited editions of just over 20,000 and have all become the lowest selling number 1's of all time, selling around 21,000 to get there so it shouldn't take too much to beat them. What I can't work out is how Jailhouse Rock managed to make number 10 in the charts in its second week, when it was impossible to find in the shops by the middle of its first week of release, let alone in its second.

― Fishman, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I wondered that too. Where will "One Night" be this week?

Anyhow. Who Could stop him?

Wk: this
Elvis: "A Fool such as I"
Stoppers:
Athlete "Wires"
Ian Brown "Time is my everything"
Chems "Galvanise"
Ciara "Goodies"
El Presidente "Rocket"
Feeder "Tumble and Fall"
Har Mar Sup. "Body Request/SugarPie"
Love Freekz "Shine"
Mooney Suz "Alive and Simplified"
The Others "Lackey"
Lucie Silvas "Breathe In"
Ashlee Simpson "La La"
StoneBridge "Take Me Away"

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 20 January 2005 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

why does anyone - let alone a record company like RCA or whoever owns RCA these days - care anyway about the Pelv's 70th birthday? What is the point of the rerelease schedule other than to annoy people and make some more money?

I read in the paper that it was because UK (Europe?) copyrights on recordings expire 50 years after publishing, placing the recordings in the public domain, then anybody could release them. So with next year marking the 50th anniversary of the first LP.... The only thing I don't understand aboot this is, if the recordings do become public domain, how would all of these labels trying to make a quick buck end up with decent sounding masters to use? Or will there be a glut of cheaply packaged, mastered from vinyl/CD/K7, comps flooding the market?

― Vic Funk, Thursday, 20 January 2005 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Mastered from CD, like you say.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 20 January 2005 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

You can copyright digital remasters, though that strikes me as a finger-in-the-dam kind of thing at best.

Also, check your Guinnesses -- there was a run of charted Elvis reissues around 1971, too, though of course not like this. And some other pre-death ones like "Girl of My Best Friend" (thus leading to Bryan Ferry's cover?).

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Thursday, 20 January 2005 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

So, anyway, Who will stop Elvis? My guess is Eminem : "Like Toy Soldiers"

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 21 January 2005 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i had a dream that El Presidente went straight in at #1 but that's obv. not going to happen

― Stevem On X (blueski), Friday, 21 January 2005 11:19 (twenty-one years ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHAA

Reggie: And "One Night" is #1!
Unfortunately the Elvis Presley estate won't license us any footage of Elvis, er, so instead here's some fat fucker from a west end musical to perform a watered down version....."

― Masked Gazza, Friday, 21 January 2005 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

U2 are going to break the chain. Admit it.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 21 January 2005 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Stop Press: Ciara has stopped elvis. Thread ends. Thank you.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 24 January 2005 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...

.. only, the "I Stopped Elvis" ceremonial sword and badge should go to Tony Christie, who stopped Elvis seven times.

Right, now who had bet on Tony?

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 09:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I dislike how Elvis has surpassed The Beatles on top of the most UK #1s list, and I require EMI get some hip dance producer to remix "What's The New Mary Jane" or "Not Guilty", so that The Beatles may once again top the list they deserve to top, that is, the list of most UK #1 singles.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, but I don't think it counts if the songs have already been at number one before.

Well, I think not.

He is one ahead, grant you, but then when Paul pops, chances are "Let it be" will be out, and that only made number two last time.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Which hip dance producers would you suggest remix the Beatles Geir?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

That Jay-Z's got form.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah .. get danger mouse all over the beatles back catalogue now that he's in league with EMI (gorillaz) ..

― mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

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