Quite Good things coming up on BBC4 : Ongoing thread

A British jazz night of sorts next Friday, though I wouldn't know quite how good that'll likely be, personally.

I thought the Stan Tracey one last year was an effective overview for someone like myself; certainly made me rush off and get "Under Milk Wood", for starters. Interesting part about his interpolations with free jazz, also... The Vivian Stanshall and John Martyn ones were wonderful, I found.

Documentaries they should do on British 'Originals':

Kevin Coyne, Kevin Ayers, Peter Hammill, Roy Harper, Lawrence Hayward, Robyn Hitchcock, Dan Treacy, Paddy McAloon... Alan Price, perhaps?

"Slade in Flame" is on BBC4 tonight, 8:30

Thought you'd like to know.

Noice

Some Madness progs on over the weekend:

Take it or Leave it (the movie)
Glasto2009
The Liberty of Norton Folgate (performance)
Young Guns Go For It episode on Madness...

Tonight:

21:15
–21:45 The Britpop Story
Journalist and author John Harris recalls the rise and fall of Britpop during the 90s. (R).21:45
–23:30 Blur: No Distance Left to Run
Documentary following Blur on the reunion trail in the summer of 2009. (R).23:30
–00:30 Glastonbury
2009, Blur
Highlights of Blur's triumphant gig on the Pyramid Stage in June 2009. (R)

Hang on, we can present better:

21:15 –21:45 The Britpop Story
Journalist and author John Harris recalls the rise and fall of Britpop during the 90s. (R).

21:45–23:30 Blur: No Distance Left to Run
Documentary following Blur on the reunion trail in the summer of 2009. (R).

23:30–00:30 Glastonbury 2009, Blur
Highlights of Blur's triumphant gig on the Pyramid Stage in June 2009. (R)

30 minutes for the story of Britpop? Not that I'm interested or anything.

Likely to skim over Menswear's contribution then.

It's also worth mentioning here that if you don't live in the UK or have iPlayer and want to watch these shows it is often possible to torrent them on thebox dot bz.

fuck all this blur shit there's a performance of la boheme at 19:30

No Distance Left To Run is very good, but do you sense that you're getting the Authorised Version of events, and it would have ended better at the Glastonbury reunion show. I liked the scene with the nervous rookie interviewer, and his big theory (whatever it was).

Primal Scream evening:

21:00
–22:00 Classic Albums
Primal Scream: Screamadelica
A look at the creation of Primal Scream's seminal 1991 album, Screamadelica.

–23:00 Movin' on Up: Pop Hits from 1991
With Primal Scream, Ride, Ned's Atomic Dustbin, Pop Will Eat Itself and Massive Attack. .

–00:30 Seven Ages of Rock
What the World is Waiting For: Indie Rock
7/7. The journey through the history of rock climaxes with a focus on British Indie music. (R).

Then, the whole thing repeats.

Oops:

21:00–22:00 Classic Albums
Primal Scream: Screamadelica
A look at the creation of Primal Scream's seminal 1991 album, Screamadelica. .

22:00–23:00 Movin' on Up: Pop Hits from 1991
With Primal Scream, Ride, Ned's Atomic Dustbin, Pop Will Eat Itself and Massive Attack. .

23:00–00:30 Seven Ages of Rock
What the World is Waiting For: Indie Rock
7/7. The journey through the history of rock climaxes with a focus on British Indie music. (R).

Seven Ages of Rock is the worst music documentary ever made. It's an object lesson in how to write a bogus narrative where black people and women barely exist. The Britpop one was dire. Smiths to Stone Roses to Oasis and Blur to Libertines ran the narrative. Proper music. Yeah.

yeah it was terrible.

yay! at that Classic Albums though. for years in the 90s i used to think 'God why is it always Phil Collins and Pink Floyd on these kinds of shows, why can't it be Screamadelica or something modern?'.
another decade on and there it is.

Seven Ages of Rock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Seven Ages of Rock was a BBC Two series, co-produced by BBC Worldwide and VH1 Classic in 2007 about the history of rock music

the high-water mark of landfill

Hah, yes, it seemed designed to justify landfill indie didn't it? I remember the summing up at the end was something about how today's bands respect the past and unite the generations through their classic British pop and rock stylings. Argh!
The American alternative rock one was awful too. "One of the best kept secrets in rock... The Pixies!" Lordy.

BBC4's music coverage used to be really interesting - all those great documentaries about rock mavericks like Robert Wyatt, Viv Stanshall etc. The Reggae/Folk/etc Britannia series is good, tbf, but it can seem a bit tokenistic. "Ok, that's our reggae night, back to classic rock next week."

God why have they got these awful 20 year-old albums on these kinds of shows, why can't it be something modern?

The 'indie' doc is on now, it's not saying anything I don't know, but it *is* playing it like 'we won the war and this is how", but hey.

Still, the one-hour "best of those days" might be OK

John Harris is even more horrible when you see him talking

As opposed to what, his writing, etc?

Classic Albums
Movin' on Up: Pop Hits from 1991
Seven Ages of Rock

If for some reason you missed all this shit the last two times it was on, it's being repeated again this evening. Meanwhile on BBC3, back-to-back episodes of Family Guy. All day.

had lots of twitter fun in the 'Pop Hits from 1991' hour, culminating in prompting a cbeebies presenter to tweet at jimbob from carter (and potty-mouth comedian friend)

Loved the Weatherall quote ' I went from listening to "Hamburger Lady" by Throbbing Gristle to dancing to "Josephine" by Chris Rea...that's how dangerous (a drug) E is..."

I think the broadcast engineers at The Late Show must have all been on little fellers too, the sound for that Primal Scream clip was eye poppingly bad.

I think the Late Show were notorious for bad sound...The Stone Roses debacle("Fuckin Amateurs!!")...and I remember seeing Jeff Buckley on it and thinking this was a weird deconstruction of the norms of audio mixing...

The "Pop Hits" 1991 was alright, good to see "Feel every beat" for example....

Although why Vic Reeves, I don't quite follow.

Someone has put the whole of the very enjoyable documentary on easy listening up on youtube.
Starts here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgmCw3fcZxg

Today, 22:55 on BBC Four
Synopsis
Music and arts magazine programme presented by Tracey MacLeod, with items on American rock including: Pearl Jam - Alive; Belly - Gepetto; Jane's Addiction - Been Caught Stealing; Dinosaur Jr - Get Me; Sonic Youth - Drunken Butterfly; REM - Half a World Away; Screaming Trees - Dollar Bill; Sugar - Helpless; Rage Against the Machine - Bullet in the Head; and Smashing Pumpkins - Rhinoceros.

Whatever happened to Tracey MacLeod?

Britpop, by the looks of it

easy listening docu on youtube vs pearl jam on bbc4.

no contest.

ta for the link !

From wiki:

She is a director of the talent agency KBJ Management,[3] where she manages TV presenters including Simon Amstell and Kevin McCloud.

:-(

BBC4 programme planners - not everybody who stays in at the weekend is interested in fuck all but nostalgic fucking old people music shows

OTMFM

Shirl Bass & Pet Clakk

King Kong, the original version, right now.

Great run of shows coming up tonight - Rock'n'Roll Britannia, Nic Jones, Richard Thompson, 70s Brit rock.

BBC4 last night screened this really quite good documentary / drama on Delia Derbyshire.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000w6tr

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0cffdj9

The new Nordic Noir thing starting on BBC4 this saturday is Trom, which is a prequel to Tron, i think.

(did we have a scandi tv thread? because then i'd also add that More4 is currently showing Rig 45 on friday nights too)

oddly, Synth Britannia, which ties in with PF's previous post, gets a repeat tonight too.

Boys From The Blackstuff was on earlier in the week, so see iplayer i guess.

ditto Oranges Are Not The Only Fruit which i'm annoyed i missed.