Filing CDs Geographically - C or D?

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Part of an email from a buddy today:

"OK, in order for me to properly file two CDs from you, according to my uber
esoteric geographical chronological genre-oriented CD organizing system I
need to know where The Reivers (né Zeitgeist) and The Brian Jonestown
Massacre hail from."

Granted, he's got like 3,000-4,000 CDs, but I didn't know anyone filed by region too.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Scary dud.

Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

this is the second stupidest filing system I've ever heard of (the first being a friend of mine in college who insisted on organizing his CDs by the color of the spines)

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

aw, I like the color one! Turn your collection into a raaaaaainbowwww

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Just by genre for me.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah sure it looked nice, but if you wanted to find anything (like, say, Ministry's "The Land of Rape and Honey") you'd have to remember what color the spine and the text were (purple spine, yellow text). And who commits that kind of inane shit to memory?

don't answer that...

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

..but you could end up with some random choices of music, when you can't find the cd you're looking for

jellybean (jellybean), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Having worked in both record and book shops for many years, it's amazing how much I did look for items based purely on what I remembered it looking like. I found things faster than customers simply because I knew what the spine looked like. We have amazing visual memories.

Nanek (kevin k), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 05:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I have '60s rock LPs "filed" geographically: British Invasion, L.A., bay area, Texas, New York, rest of continental U.S., U.K. and Euro psych, etc!

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 05:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I partially organize by Geography, but I'm Canadian. And I have to play at least 35% CanCon, so it's not like it's because I have major avoidance issues.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 05:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm also partial to chronological "filing."

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 05:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but sometimes the spine of a disc changes when it is re-issued, etc.

What I want to know is - does this guy split up the albums by a group that moves to live somewhere else?

I mean, Bob Mould has put out records while living in Minnesota, NYC, DC, and Austin. Does he split all that up?

Edward Bax (EdBax), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 05:18 (twenty-one years ago)

damn. i just do it all alphabetically. but all kinds of problems come up that way. I might start sorting them by decade. that's how i usually think of music, anyway. but it seems like there would be problems there, too. Where do (the few) greatest hits collections that span decades go? And would I file Metal Box and Second Edition in different decades... ugh.

(I finally decided that Talk Talk should go before Talking Heads-- but which should come first: Fear of Music or Talking Heads '77 (AKA '77)... argh.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 05:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Completely ludicrously pointless.... but nevertheless rather intriguing.

Does he file by latitude first and then longtitude?
West to east and then north to south?
Does he look at the town that a band / artist comes from, or just the country?
Does he go strictly by lines and degrees of laltitude or just by time zone - and if so, what happens where a country falls across more than one time zone or where a country changes it's reference time during the year or where two countries on the same latitude observe different local customs regarding time zones?
How does he determine where a band comes from if the individual members come from different towns, countries or even continents?
Doesn't it all get horribly messy when he owns things from two completely different continents which happen to lie on the same latitude / longtitude and they all (presumably) end up intermingled?
Where does he start? If he uses zero latitude and proceeds strictly from west to east, wouldn't / doesn't it piss him off that he ends up with Siouxsie & The Banshees, Generation X and the Cockney Rejects in the top left hand corner of his collection and Alternative TV, The Clash The Damned and Sex Pistols on the bottom right (although on the positive side, this method would certainly settle any disputes about whether Sham 69 were really cockneys or not once and for all!)?
Similarly of course music from most of France and Spain and Algeria would be mixed in with Siouxsie and Generation X in the top left hand corner while music from Portugal and Morocco would be intermingled with The Clash and Sex Pistols on the bottom right.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 10:18 (twenty-one years ago)

if you and your buddy are ever competing for a chixor, that e-mail could be used as leverage in your favor, I think.

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 10:27 (twenty-one years ago)

You might be excused for thinking so - but unfortunately; for some bizarre and completely inexplicable reason that I've been completely unable to fathom so far; I've discovered that having 3,000-4,000 CD's doesn't always prove to be quite as big a fanny-magnet as you might reasonably have expected it to be!

Chicks eh? Tchah! Who can fathom the way their pretty, pink, fluffy little air-filled minds work?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 10:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Both married, so our wives have to live with our musical obsessions. Hey, they knew what they were getting into when they married us, so tough!
My friend is known as The Archivist, and he freely admits it's a sickness. OCD collector, for sure. It's not only CDs; he has a bunch of fine wooden bureaus scattered throughout his home, each filled with cassette tapes of concert recordings he's made, mix tapes from friends, etc. He also has a huge collection of sheet music, concert DVDs, etc.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

He also has a very busy job which entails a lot of travelling, so he really isn't home all that much and can't possibly make a dent in that collection, hence the OCD label. I think I was being pretty conservative when I said 3,000-4,000 CDs. Some people would pay a pretty penny for his address and schedule.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)

What if the band moves? Or what if the members live in different places! Ridiculous.

I used to do it according to genre.

stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 12:48 (twenty-one years ago)

My attempts at genre-filing have been scuppered numerous times by stupid eclectic artists. Bastards.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

straight a-z for me. totally boring.

although my vinyl are not ordered at all... which can make for some fun listening.

deadair (deadair), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I found To Bring You My Love by PJ Harvey this morning in near dark, cos I remembered what the spine looks like.

mei (mei), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 13:04 (twenty-one years ago)

When I played my music on a CD player and had them in racks rather than sitting in cardboard boxes under my bed, I used to remember quite easily what the spine looked like. That kind of thing just stuck in my mind quite naturally.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 13:28 (twenty-one years ago)

"(I finally decided that Talk Talk should go before Talking Heads-- but which should come first: Fear of Music or Talking Heads '77 (AKA '77)... argh."

Alphabetical by band / artist name then chronological within each individual band / artist has always seemed the simplest and most obviously rational approach.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I once filed my cds by spine color. I actually did this to randomize my music listening. Actually, every time I reorganise my cds it's so that I start listening to different albums, as when I'm just looking for a random cd to listen to I generally just pick the first one I find that I feel like listening to. Since I generally start looking on the shelves that are about eye level when I'm standing, I listen to some cds a lot more than others just because of where they are filed.

spaces are allowed (spaces are allowed), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

"wherever there's a space" is my failsafe method. Garage, Loft, Under the stairs, Car, Car Boot, did I try the loft? Kids bookcases, umm, not the kitchen, no...

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

other little-used filing systems:

-chronological, by date of release
-chronological, by date of recording
-ordered by sales (total number of units sold)
-ordered by length (running time)

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I file somewhat intuitively - mostly by a combination of genre (or something like it) and geography (i.e. most of my "Neue Deutsche Welle" records are near each other rather than near Swiss or American New Wave records, and Juergen Knieper is close to Georges Delerue and Francois de Roubaix because it's film music), and then by artist and date of recording. Date of recording is the only thing I'm anything like strict about - somehow it seems like the only thing that matters in a fixed way. Artists that have worked together tend to be filed closer together, and solo albums by people involved in bands come after the band's records. There is no overall order to how things are placed around the room - if anything, it's by what fits where.

Pangolino again, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyway, geography figures fairly noticeably.

Pangolino again, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Other less popular filing systems...

* By the color of the graphics on the disc (which can't be seen without opening the case).
* By UPC code.
* By label alphabetically, and then in order by catalog number.
* By the day of the week that you purchased the cd on.
* By number of the tracks on the disc.

Edward Bax (EdBax), Friday, 28 January 2005 03:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard someone make a joke once about how books should be filed by ISBN number in book stores.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 28 January 2005 04:25 (twenty-one years ago)

"... umm, not the kitchen, no... "

Good heavens no, not the kitchen! If you start putting them in there, the missus might notice how they keep growing and accumulating which in turn mught lead to her starting to ask all sorts of awkward and unpleasant questions about how much money's being spent acquiring them while the kids are walking the streets barefoot in rags begging for food!

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 28 January 2005 09:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooooh, what about filing geographically by where they were recorded?

Then you wouldn't have all those identical-looking live Pearl Jam cds sitting together...

Edward Bax (EdBax), Friday, 28 January 2005 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Or what about filing by date of purchase/acquisition? That would be the easiest to maintain - you just add to the end.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Chicks eh? Tchah! Who can fathom the way their pretty, pink, fluffy little air-filled minds work?

And their 12-disk CD collections!

I filed by genre and sound within genre many years ago and noticed that it did seem to separate by geography - LA punk was different than NY punk, which was different than UK punk, likewise with prog. I did put Pere Ubu in the "arty UK post-punk" section, mostly just to convince myself I wasn't doing a stupid file-by-geography thing.

Now I file by the someday-I-will-implement-a-real-system method, which is just piling stuff up on every available flat surface.

nickn (nickn), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard someone make a joke once about how books should be filed by ISBN number in book stores.

there's a warehouse-size bookstore near where my parents live in massachusetts that files everything by name of publisher. it's rather annoying if you're looking for one particular book. but if you just want to look around, it's kinda fantastic.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)


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