It irks me.
― PB, Sunday, 5 June 2005 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 5 June 2005 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)
Etc.
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Sunday, 5 June 2005 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Sunday, 5 June 2005 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Sunday, 5 June 2005 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― PB, Sunday, 5 June 2005 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Sunday, 5 June 2005 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 5 June 2005 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)
Has this changed since the '60s/'70s?
― PB, Sunday, 5 June 2005 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)
prince, admittedly in the 80s, released an album more or less every year and toured behind every one too.
― ppp, Sunday, 5 June 2005 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)
Bands on smaller labels tend to have a faster output.
― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Sunday, 5 June 2005 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)
That kind of says it all, doesn't it? If acts today were able to make a living on the backs of their singles, rather than albums (where the majority ends up being filler anyway), they could progress faster rather than recording albums with little internal variation.
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 5 June 2005 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)
christ AC/DC is saying they may put out a double album this year. AC/DC. 2005.
― miccio (miccio), Sunday, 5 June 2005 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Sunday, 5 June 2005 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)
This is a bad thing?
With long waits it discourages experimentation and going in new directions and Franz's new album is sure to be more or less a sequel to the first instead of something really new (note: unless they release some revelation of an album, in which case this post will be used for ironic purposes in future threads)
I'd rather hear Franz's "studio experiment" album than what they'll likely release next. Wouldn't you?
― Cunga (Cunga), Monday, 6 June 2005 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)
1963: Please Please Me1965: Twist and Shout EP1966: With The Beatles1969: A Hard Day's Night (with Yoko in the movie)1970: breakup1972: Beatles for Sale sessions1974: Paul's Yesterday album, Ringo's Act Naturally album, etc.
― Curt (cgould), Monday, 6 June 2005 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Curt (cgould), Monday, 6 June 2005 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)
well i give some credit to the white stripes at least for releasing their new album, unfinished and feotal as it seems likely to be.
― ppp, Monday, 6 June 2005 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Monday, 6 June 2005 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)
....took 'em two years, though, for two weeks in the studio.
― PB, Monday, 6 June 2005 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― ppp, Monday, 6 June 2005 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)
When, how and why did 2-3+ years between albums become the rule instead of the exception?
― jed_ (jed), Monday, 6 June 2005 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 6 June 2005 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)
as stated in that other thread, hip hop and dancehall audiences seem not to give a shit, and expect their stars to maintain constant presence of some sort.
― ppp, Monday, 6 June 2005 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Monday, 6 June 2005 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― snotty moore, Monday, 6 June 2005 07:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 6 June 2005 07:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 6 June 2005 08:05 (twenty-one years ago)
Recording and manufacturing costs have gone DOWN, not up, of course (although the cheapness of recording leads people to do a lot more of it per song), but advances and promotion costs are significantly larger than they were in the 60s and 70s. The major-level industry is configured to try to make every release deemed significant multi-platinum, and that generally takes some period of time to accomplish. Plus, there is a fear of having a new release cannibalize sales of an existing release (a fear that successful bands may share, since if release 1 has recouped a release 1 sale is more valuable for the band than a release 2 sale will be).
This seems terribly wrong in so many ways -- terrible for artistic development, terrible for the artists' careers and their wallets. Luckily, it does not really affect the indie sector at all, and release schedules there are really not so far off where they were in the 70s.
All of that said, everyone -- the Beatles (individually), the Stones, Neil Young, Dylan etc. -- seems to slow down the pace of new releases after some initial period. Sleater-Kinney went from releasing a record a year to releasing a record every 3 years, and none of the foregoing issues had anything to do with it. The reasons were all personal and artistic. That is just one of the ways Ryan Adams is bizarre -- by the end of this year he will have sustained a release-plus-per-year pace for over a decade, and a Beatlesesque (in quantity, if not quality) 10 new material releases in the past 6 years.
― Vornado, Monday, 6 June 2005 12:20 (twenty-one years ago)
Recording costs for "bands" (ie, not for dance and hiphop producer/artists) have definitely not gone down.
― Siegbran (eofor), Monday, 6 June 2005 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― william fields, Monday, 6 June 2005 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)
This wasn't their fault, though; it was label idiocy, right?
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 6 June 2005 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)
So OTM it hurts.
Also, singles. Singles are the answer. You have a great song - don't sit on it and write 7 tracks of filler. Put it out. Then, chances are, for your next single you'd be tempted to, say, change the drum kit. So this regime subtly encourages experimentation and growth.
― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Monday, 6 June 2005 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)
Oh, I never thought of it this way. A sad but great point.
― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Monday, 6 June 2005 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― snotty moore, Monday, 6 June 2005 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)
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― The Father of Honky-Crunk (Matt Chesnut), Monday, 6 June 2005 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)