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Sonic Boom regularly pops up on the official Spiritualized message board, although he retains a bit of dignity by staying in the Spacemen 3 forum area. He's been snippy with me once or twice because I bitched about a shit Spectrum album, and not directly to him. It's wierd talking about art/music and suddenly the artist pops up and gets whiney with you.... thus tearing down whatever mystique they had built up. You can tell when he's wasted because his typing gets all shitty and he sometimes doesn't make a lot of sense.

Has anyone else run into musical heroes online and been sorely dissapointed?

What artists maintain an online interaction with fans? I've heard Anton Newcombe posts regularly at his website. And Ryan Adams? Although I don't keep up with him so I don't know. Who else?

Joseph Cowart (Joseph Cowart), Saturday, 24 September 2005 07:35 (twenty years ago)

lolz it happens sometimes

Bono (gear), Saturday, 24 September 2005 07:41 (twenty years ago)

For years and years Mike Doughty, the lead singer of Soul Coughing ran a message board where he regularly contributed, sometimes on a daily basis.....till he had a meltdown where he admitted years of heroin addiction, and various people including myself bitched him out for being a sap.

He closed the site and took his bat and ball and went home.

Bombed Out and Depleted / Kate (papa november), Saturday, 24 September 2005 07:44 (twenty years ago)

Not me.

Chris "Chris" Martin, Saturday, 24 September 2005 07:44 (twenty years ago)

noye me3

pete doherty, Saturday, 24 September 2005 07:45 (twenty years ago)

Not-ah me-ah!

Mark E. Smith, Saturday, 24 September 2005 07:45 (twenty years ago)

Not me, OHHHHH YEAHHHHHHHHH!

"Macho Man" Randy Savage, Saturday, 24 September 2005 07:45 (twenty years ago)

I just posted an incredibly witty comment about meeting Gary Glitter in a Radio Disney chatroom in the "slsk complete waste of time..." thread that this thread may have been inspired by. Looking back it would've been better in this thread. Glitter was arrested for child porn you know and although Michael Jackson is more famous he's a bit more of a clichè target for jokes about pedophiles. Gary Glitter makes a great alternative for such smug wisecracks.

Cunga (Cunga), Saturday, 24 September 2005 08:16 (twenty years ago)

an instrument-specific mailing list i'm on has, or had pr1nce as one of its subscribers. Someone popped up a message reading "good trader - pr1nce", someone else asked "wtf, is pr1nce on this list" and the main moderator replied yes, he is.

I've no idea what name he post/s/ed under , or if he actually post/s/ed at all, but i must admit i was kind of thrilled a bit.

Several lists pertaining to specific analog synthsisers have a few "names" on them, sonic boom, as mentioned above, members of c0il and so on.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 24 September 2005 08:21 (twenty years ago)

it's reassuring to know that prince uses the internet.

the happy smile patrol (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 24 September 2005 08:25 (twenty years ago)

it's reassuring (as well as common sense) that members of Coil, or any industrial band, use the internet

Cunga (Cunga), Saturday, 24 September 2005 08:35 (twenty years ago)

It's reassuring to know that there are bands, and there's the internet.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 24 September 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)

it's reassuring to know that prince uses the internet.

You need to relisten to The Gold Experience and Emancipation -- he's been riding the net hard for about ten years plus.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 September 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

For years and years Mike Doughty, the lead singer of Soul Coughing ran a message board where he regularly contributed, sometimes on a daily basis.....till he had a meltdown where he admitted years of heroin addiction, and various people including myself bitched him out for being a sap.

this is why if i'm ever even moderately known by anyone outside some friends, i will never reveal anything ever to anyone. ever.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Saturday, 24 September 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

Courtney Love used to post pages and pages of rants at her site, kittyradio.com (which she has now abandoned), and also on velvetrope.com. And suicidegirls.com, too. Extremely detailed posts about her legal cases, accusations against former lovers/employees/managers/dead husbands bandmembers etc etc etc.

You could tell when she was fucked up too. Up until 2002 her posts were brilliant, but around that time you could just tell something was going on. And then she stopped. Her last post on the Internet, that I know of, was in March 2004.

xpol, Saturday, 24 September 2005 09:18 (twenty years ago)

Ah yes, Courtney... I loved her posts but she was a bit kookoo.

I remember Jim O'Rourke being on the Sonic Youth mailing list. He didn't post under his own name; but I knew his email address (this is why people should never do CC emails). I didn't really gave it away, but I did make a joke about him (although not saying it was Jim O'Rourke) doing promo emails as he sometimes recommended records he had produced.

nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Saturday, 24 September 2005 09:58 (twenty years ago)

this is why if i'm ever even moderately known by anyone outside some friends, i will never reveal anything ever to anyone. ever.

Theres a lot more to the story than what I just wrote. The dude was making wild acusations and lashing out at innocent by-standers.

Bombed Out and Depleted / Kate (papa november), Saturday, 24 September 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)

Rappers own this thread.

The best thing is when they post about themselves under third person on the net and get angry and expose themselves. Usually they're pondlife underground rappers who've come out over the past ten years.

Cannibus wrote incredibly detailed, lengthy ripostes to criticisms that he can't pick beats for shit and was only ever good on mixtapes on sohh.com and hhi.com under an alias account.

The guy from Company Flow who isn't El P was involved in the "remove that review, homie" situation and El P himself plus Cannibal Ox talked shit on hhi.com to the wrong person which resulted in one of the Can Ox clowns getting knocked out and ending up getting his jaw wired.

Joe Budden got caught defending himself under an alias account and hyping himself up with "YO YOU HEARD THAT NEW BUDDENS TRACK??..SHIT IS FIRE!!!" threads and i think he also had a messageboard beef with Yukmouth. Ditto The Game.

There's some lame underground rapper called Immortal Technique who's quite popular with backpackers and skateboarders that used to register various alias accounts to back his main account up whenever he'd get dissed but didn't realize that his IP was visible and then went on a rampage threatening to kill "message board crackers".

And then there's that lanky streak of piss Copywrite who has gotten beaten down twice over his posts on the net by other underground rappers and was exposed dissing his friends and label mates under the flava bitch moniker and making posts about some song of his with a Jay Z dis in it and wondering if Jay Z would respond. Pure comedy.

Ellis, Saturday, 24 September 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)


of course there's that one profound contributor to ILM..

http://www.galenfrysinger.ws/movies/christmas_story_b.jpg

he linked to my grime bog on his LiveJournal

mookié wilson (mookie wilson), Saturday, 24 September 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)

I went to google image serach. I typed in grime bog. This is what I got:

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/374762/2/Bad_bog.jpg

Bombed Out and Depleted / Kate (papa november), Saturday, 24 September 2005 11:40 (twenty years ago)

yo biatches

c-money was down in da swindon hizzle and he be sayin "a-train why dont you be representin tha xtc krew on the internet yo" and i be like what da fuck is this shiznit

but now i be ownin tha internet hood yo on dis river of orchids mah homiez

gangsta andy partridge, Saturday, 24 September 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)

i read the p4vem3nt list and a few years back had posted something about j3nny t00m3y on it, when bob n4st4n0v1ch sent me a private email that said "fuck j3nny t00m3y".

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Saturday, 24 September 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

David Berman posts on the Silver Jews message board, I believe. Or did until recently.

goodoldneon (goodoldneon), Saturday, 24 September 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

That guy from the Telephone Poles posts on ILM.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Saturday, 24 September 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

On the Flaming Lips message boards, Kliph, their touring drummer, posts every so often. That's really nice because he can answer fans questions and there's a direct connection to the band, but that Rock Star Mystique remains intact.

Not that Wayne isn't approachable enough, but when our false idols start writing regularly, it's not too long before they are revealed to be regular folks. It takes the shine off of em a lot faster than a National Enquirer expose.

Joseph Cowart (Joseph Cowart), Saturday, 24 September 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

Paul Kantner is a very regular presence on the jeffersonstarshipsf message board. Usually he rants about politics, sometimes he plugs a show.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Saturday, 24 September 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

it's not too long before they are revealed to be regular folks

I have no problem with that at all! I agree I think it's cool that the Lips have a member keeping tabs on things, etc., if the others aren't interested or too busy to do otherwise, but surely the point of the Fearless Freaks documentary in part was to capture the core three as 'regular folks,' not in the sense of being falsely humble or down with the kids or whatever, but people with their own concerns, struggles, comforts and thoughts. If anything that boosted my respect for them by a huge amount.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 September 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)


ryan adams doesn't post on message boards anymore, his label Lost Highway issued a press release saying so.

he posted a lot until 2003 or so, im not sure why he stopped.

JD from CDepot, Saturday, 24 September 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

He probably couldn't bear to see posts going "DUDE U HEAR DERO POSTED THAT MESSAGE U LEFT?"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 September 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

The Radiohead guys post a lot on their messageboard, don't they?

And Lady Sov is a pretty mighty presence online.

Roz (Roz), Saturday, 24 September 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

I used to read the AOL Golden Palomino boards, and Anton Fier and Nicole Blackman got into a weird flamewar. That was pretty hilarious.
Oh, and Lori Carson sent a demo of one of her albums to all the people who read the board.
(Courtney Love used to post to the Nirvana board until she had a weird flameout that didn't even make any damn sense. And the Stabbing Westward guys used to post to their AOL board until people kept coming by to make fun of them. Which they deserved.)

js (honestengine), Saturday, 24 September 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

he posted a lot until 2003 or so, im not sure why he stopped.

He discovered it was more effective to call people at home and leave messages on their voicemail.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 24 September 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

And the Stabbing Westward guys used to post to their AOL board until people kept coming by to make fun of them. Which they deserved

I salute their tormentors.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 September 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

I wonder if the bigger they are (movie stars too, and political figures) the more likely they might post, if (as long as) their people will let them? (Don't you suspect Ryan Adams, who can get wild 'n' krazee with burnleg-enshrined gig comments, incl a recent live-in-studio set on li'l ol' "World Cafe," even, was eventually removed from posting privs by some kind of mandate?) I mean, seems reasonable, if your every step outside the house (at least) is dogged by papparazzi, etc.? ("voicemail": reminds me of that Onion hed: Marilyn Manson Now Going Door To Door Shocking People)

don, Saturday, 24 September 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

Ned: The lead singer was very sensitive about his thinning hair (and his propensity toward sleeping with groupies).

js (honestengine), Saturday, 24 September 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

just blaze has posted on hiphopmusic.com

Sym Sym (sym), Saturday, 24 September 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

The Flaming Lips have a touring drummer? So Steve Drozd never plays live? Seriously?

jl, Saturday, 24 September 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

Mike Watt contributes to the bass message board linked from his site.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Saturday, 24 September 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

So Steve Drozd never plays live? Seriously?

When Ron Jones left, Steve started taking over more of that instrumental role, but since he plays a LOT of instruments, it was more of a decisive move than might be imagined. There was a transitional period where they toured with Steve doing double-duty -- he prerecorded his drum parts and they projecting him playing part of the time on a screen behind the band (this was when I saw them back in 1999), while he was otherwise onstage handling guitars, keyboards, etc. This eventually settled into the touring drummer deal, with Steve onstage doing his thing otherwise -- can't remember if they have another touring guitarist now as well but I believe they do.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 September 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

Amazing to see pictures of the *whole* on-stage versions of fairly recent R.E.M and Fleetwood Mac. Not sure just how many guitarists Lindsey had lurking around on Soundstage last year, but it all worked pretty well, for the most part!(of a 2-hr. set, even.) (Ditto guitar-temp-army Wilco on another Soundstage, but their set was only an hour)(much better than the awkward hour of *actual-only* Sonic Youth, the same evening.)

don, Saturday, 24 September 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

dyke jones/chamillionaire flame war to thread

rio natsume, Saturday, 24 September 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

x-post
I thought R.E.M. only used Scott McCaughweygf92 on second guitar. Who else?

It's interesting that U2 don't seem to have any extra musicians on stage - they quite blatantly use a lot of sequenced stuff instead.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 24 September 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

"And Lady Sov is a pretty mighty presence online."
Where does she post ?

snowballing (snowballing), Saturday, 24 September 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

xpost (on the U2 thing): As of a few years ago, I was given to understand (by somebody who was on their tour), the extra musicians were UNDER the stage.

Douglas (Douglas), Saturday, 24 September 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

they quite blatantly use a lot of sequenced stuff instead

Depeche Mode taught them well (and that ain't a criticism of DM, more like U2 realizing, "Oh right!" -- you can bet the two groups still keep close tabs on each other thanks especially to the Corbijn/Flood crossover influences back in the late eighties/early nineties).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 September 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

the extra musicians were UNDER the stage.

*jaw drops*

This would be an interesting thread in itself.

I'm pretty sure a lot of the Edge's patented multitap delays kick in automatically, too - or are controlled by a general MIDI clock. They're always too perfect to be done by hand (or by foot, as it were) - since each note begets a hundred reflections, it would be easy to screw up half a song by mis-timing one stroke.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 24 September 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

xpost: I saw R.E.M.on something just a few weeks ago. (Woke up on the couch and there they were, on the TV, not the couch, happily.) They had Scott,yeah, and another guitarist. (Holsapple? It was crowded, but he did have the same glasses. And 2-3 keybists here and there, and pretty sure Ken Stringfellow was playing bass near Mike Mills, unless one of 'em was playing guitar. (Getting...crowded...must...count...strings...!) The drummer had a drummer, but there was only one Stipe! Also happily.

don, Saturday, 24 September 2005 21:54 (twenty years ago)

I don't know if this is true, but I sure hope it was...

On a Bob Dylan message board awhile back, people were debating the meaning of Blowin' In The Wind. People were assigning all sorts of hidden symbolic meanings to it, really delving deep into it. Then one post says "You're all wrong. It was just a naive plea for peace written by a very young man." The board starts in with, "how do you know" and then the poster replies, "Cause I'm Bob." They ask for proof and he says, "I'll play Highlands at my next show."

Guess what Dylan opened with at the next concert.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Saturday, 24 September 2005 22:30 (twenty years ago)

Previous 100 shows all started with "Highlands." Oh wait.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 September 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)

To be fair to U2, the man responsible for doubleing up Edge's guitar is a guitar tech guy which explains why he's in the underworld, he also triggers his effects patch changes, changes strings, makes sure the sequencers are running okay, plays wah-wah pedal etc: I think his name is Dallas somebody.

mzui (mzui), Saturday, 24 September 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)

*yikes* doubling, s'late sorry

mzui (mzui), Saturday, 24 September 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

well if it works, who cares. I don't even care if they lip-synch, long as you can't tell, and/or long as it's all a bit startling,just enough to engage even jaded ol ho me; prob is, the ones who sound too Just Like The Record even when you can't tell if they are or not. But that seems to be what a lot of people want, Just Like The Record. (But not lipsynka, cos we didn't wrestle with Tickerbaster for that!). Judging by comments in my CD store, on days after concerts.I sympathize with the Tickerbaster part, for sure, but not the rest.

don, Saturday, 24 September 2005 23:00 (twenty years ago)

"xpost (on the U2 thing): As of a few years ago, I was given to understand (by somebody who was on their tour), the extra musicians were UNDER the stage."

that's true, i saw a doc about 2 years ago on the Elevation tour, and it had 2 guys (can't remember whothey were) under the stage. one did guitar, the other, keyboards/synths and various effects....

jimmyh, Sunday, 25 September 2005 23:31 (twenty years ago)

underground music...band within band...which musos control which...

don, Monday, 26 September 2005 01:22 (twenty years ago)

That story fits in with the legendary Cranberries story detailing something similar. At least U2, while not constantly calling attention to it, don't hide it as much. (Depeche, in contrast, put their touring musicians ON the stage.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 September 2005 01:25 (twenty years ago)

the legendary Cranberries story detailing something similar

Indeed, she's Bono (not Larry).

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 26 September 2005 02:17 (twenty years ago)

What do the White Stripes do in concert? On the albums there're songs that are definately more than drums and one other instrument. Do they bring out more musicians? That kind of seems to go against their gimmick.

Some Guy, Monday, 26 September 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

HE USES A HARMONIZER

huell howser (chaki), Monday, 26 September 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

Robert Fripp reads Elephant Talk and the Krimson News Guestbook, and occasionally comments on posts from there in his online diary.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Monday, 26 September 2005 02:49 (twenty years ago)

Ned: "at least U2...don't hide it as much": under the stage! Where else could they hide it more? (Never mind--don't make me look, rackstar!)

don, Monday, 26 September 2005 03:43 (twenty years ago)

I believe one or two years back the guy from Mogwai wrote a few messages on the Matador board, bitching about somebody who'd heard a leak of an upcoming album and said it was shit.

Jibé, Monday, 26 September 2005 08:21 (twenty years ago)

surely myspace has changed all this .. so many bands now interact through their myspace accounts .. joy zipper/j xaverre being two i currently check out from time to time, but i am aware of just about every band going now has myspace stuff going on.

and then there is the whole ninjatune thing .. strictly kev, yarah bravo etc all hangout on the forum over there ..

mark e (mark e), Monday, 26 September 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

Mick Cooke used to post on Sinister a bit, but mostly just to plug his other band (the Amphetameanies). He also turned up at a Sinister picnic once (though he is friends with a few folk on Sinister, so it's not that strange).

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 26 September 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

I don't know what a harmonizer is. It plays a backing track?

Some Guy, Monday, 26 September 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

I went to U2 on Friday night. They were great.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

re: White Stripes. From what I could gather from their show at Coney Island last night, the "extra instruments" are electronic effects added to the drums/other instruments. When Jack was playing piano, there was a bassy synth part following the piano lines. Meg drums seemed to be put through different effects on some songs to sound like guitar, synth, drum machine, etc. At times it sounded like she was playing along to a drum machine, but this may have been just electronic treatment. Whoever their sound man is, he/she was doing an incredible job. I don't think sequencers were being used, but I may be wrong. (They did walk out to a fully electronic dance-type techno/electro track.)

Old School (sexyDancer), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

Also: Mark E. Smith has popped up by proxy on the Fall messgae board from time to time, in classic full MES mode.

Old School (sexyDancer), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

im really shocked that rock stars know how to use the internet.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

x post re harmonizer

sort of. it synthesizes other notes to play in harmony with yours. so you play a C, and if it's set right, it will bend the pitch of that up to E, so you can sound like you're playing something more harmonically rich than you actually are.

it's just a tool.

AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

The Doughty story is funny because I once wrote him an e-mail in 1995 that he responded to. This was in my nascent Internet days, and the fact that a semi-famous person had made his e-mail address available on his site was incredibly cool to 16-year-old me. The other person I wrote (and heard back from) around the same time was Jim DeRogatis.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

Brian Wilson posted on his own msg bd that people should donate to Red Cross Katrina Relief and somebody was all like, "Aww, you're not really Brian Wilson", so now, Brian Wilson is calling members of his msg board if they donate over $100 and also matching all donations generated through his site.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

just blaze posted some great stuff ... somewhere.

Lukas (lukas), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

on the Elevation tour, and it had 2 guys (can't remember whothey were) under the stage.

Ha, that sentence was funny for some reason.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

im really shocked that rock stars know how to use the internet.

Sometimes it's a bit optimistic to say they "use" the internet... Fripp still uses AOL.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

thx for answers re: stripes

Just Blaze responding to comments to this interview post :

http://www.hiphopmusic.com/archives/000245.html


Some Guy, Monday, 26 September 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

oh, right, first google hit for "just blaze".

Lukas (lukas), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

Pashmina, does Prince post to AH? I've read some pretty amusing Sonic Boom posts there as well as the Serge yahoo group.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

Dan Tr34cy used to (maybe still does...this was a few months ago) post to the TVPs mailing list. He even had his blog routed to the list (or perhaps someone else did this).

However, most of his posts weren't that coherent.

mikef (mfleming), Monday, 26 September 2005 23:13 (twenty years ago)

When I saw the Stripes two years ago, they just rocked it with the two of them, no effects. It was a fantastic show at the Masonic in their smaller theater. Some of the best sound I've heard in my life.

js (honestengine), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 00:19 (twenty years ago)


pete doherty came on a babyshambles messageboard and asked for my credit card number.

JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 05:08 (twenty years ago)

six months pass...
[soma spam]

buy soma, Monday, 27 March 2006 17:30 (twenty years ago)

"buy soma"

Soma? Fuck that shit -- BOOZE AND ALLERGY PILLS.

O-Keigh (O-Keigh), Monday, 27 March 2006 20:10 (twenty years ago)

Blaine Thurier from The New Pornographers anticipated from time to time on their website board. He seems like a very nice guy.

rocket poc, Monday, 27 March 2006 20:24 (twenty years ago)

Techno label getting desperate.

(xpost)

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Monday, 27 March 2006 21:07 (twenty years ago)

And the Stabbing Westward guys used to post to their AOL board until people kept coming by to make fun of them. Which they deserved

I salute their tormentors.

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), September 24th, 2005.

WHAT DO I HAVE TO DOOOOO

latebloomer: band to the planet mars (latebloomer), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 12:16 (twenty years ago)

I "met" Moe Tucker on a message board back in '97 or so... We were talking about Bo Diddley. Then we talked about Sterling Morrison. Then I bought some CDs from her. Then she sent me a Christmas card for the next three years. Moe Tucker = humblest rock star ever.

Dave AKA Dave (dave225.3), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:26 (twenty years ago)

I went to the opera the other week and the mnusicians were under the stage.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:32 (twenty years ago)


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