The Spin Doctors Are Back! Back!! Back!!! Sort of.

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By WARREN ST. JOHN
Published: September 25, 2005

A PERSON can run out of fingers trying to count how many years it has been since the world saw - or at least took note of - the Spin Doctors. But think on the name hard enough and that song, their monster hit "Two Princes," from 1993, will probably bore its way out of your memory with the relentlessness of a dental drill:

"If you - want to be my baby, just go ahead now.

"And if you - want to tell me maybe, just go ahead now."

You probably know the rest.

Eric Schenkman, the guitar player for the Spin Doctors, knows what people think of when they think of his band, and if he forgets, usually someone will remind him, like a customs agent who checked his passport recently: "He said, 'Hey - you were in that 90's band,' " Mr. Schenkman said, seeming more amused than annoyed.

That 90's band. Well, yes and no.

The Spin Doctors are back. Or at least they're trying like crazy to come back. Last week the original members of the band - which started playing in the basements of fraternity houses at Columbia and N.Y.U. in the late 1980's, dominated the rootsy downtown club scene and then zoomed to international fame in 1993 with their album "Pocket Full of Kryptonite" - released a new album, their first in 11 years, "Nice Talking to Me," on a small label called Ruff Nation.

But careers undone by a decade or so of bad decisions and bad luck aren't resurrected overnight.

Over a café con leche at a Cuban restaurant on West 14th Street in Manhattan, Chris Barron, the rubbery, cheerful frontman known to those who remember the Spin Doctors as the bearded guy wearing the ski cap with ear flaps in the "Two Princes" video, said a lot went down in that decade. "It's a story of rags to riches to rags," Mr. Barron said. He took a sip of his coffee. "Hopefully to riches."

To the public the Spin Doctors may have seemed overnight sensations. But the band didn't feel that way. For years the group played around New York, at downtown clubs like the Continental Divide, Nightingales and Wetlands, sharing the bill with bands like Blues Traveler and the Surreal McCoys.

Mr. Barron, 37, grew up in Princeton, N.J., and came to New York with just $100 in his pocket after dropping out of Bennington. He said he remembers trudging equipment up the stairs of a five-floor walk-up with Mr. Schenkman in those days, when the band was writing the songs that would eventually become its smash record.

"We just all had the same sense of rhythm, and there was a feeling that it was more than four guys playing," he said. "That always felt like magic."

In 1991 the band signed a deal with Epic Records for $250,000, "an unimaginable sum," Mr. Barron said. The record came out to little notice, and the band hit the road to promote it.

Months into the tour the album still languished, and executives at Epic, convinced the album contained no hits, told the band to come back to New York to work on a second record. But Aaron Comess, 37, the drummer of the Spin Doctors, said the band had faith in its record and decided to keep touring.

After a year and a half on the road, the band got word that a radio station in Vermont was playing "Two Princes" regularly. With cheerful melodies that contrasted with the angst-ridden music of Nirvana and other grunge bands at the time, "Pocket Full of Kryptonite" soon took off. The album went on to sell an astonishing five million copies, reaching triple platinum.

Mr. Barron said he remembered going to an A.T.M. in those days and being puzzled to find that his balance was over $5,000: a bank error, he assumed. A couple of weeks later his balance exceeded $11,000. He called his accountant, who explained that the increase in finances came from royalties for the band's album.

Success cut both ways. The band began to get knocked down by the music media, which found the Spin Doctors, and in particular the song "Two Princes," a little too happy. (VH1 included the tune on its list of the "50 Most Awesomely Bad Songs Ever," tucked between "Sunglasses at Night" and "Cotton Eye Joe.")

"We had so much success we were overexposed," Mr. Barron said. "People were saying: 'I've heard this song forty thousand million times. Not again!' "

The band was getting a little sick of itself as well. Mr. Barron and Mr. Schenkman were arguing, particularly about the band's next record, which Mr. Schenkman thought was half-baked. With the band stressed and exhausted from touring, Mr. Barron said that even small disagreements broke out into big arguments.

"We were four guys who fundamentally loved each other but who didn't know how to resolve simple conflicts," he said.

On Labor Day 1993, while the band was touring to promote its second album, "Turn It Upside Down," Mr. Schenkman walked off stage from a concert in Berkeley, Calif., and left the band. He and Mr. Barron wouldn't speak for seven years.

Asked why he left, Mr. Schenkman, 41, said: "I'm still kind of wondering. I left without knowing exactly why."

The Spin Doctors found a replacement guitarist to complete their tour, but the album never caught on like "Pocket Full of Kryptonite." Still, they opened for the Rolling Stones in the United States and South America. In his mid-20's Mr. Barron had the thrill of hanging out with the Stones between sets in their "tuning room."

"I never saw anyone tuning anything in there but a vodka and orange," he said.

Without Mr. Schenkman, the band lacked its original chemistry. A third Spin Doctors album, released in 1996, tanked. And things would soon get much worse for Mr. Barron.

One morning after a show in 1999, he awoke in his Manhattan apartment and found he could barely speak. "I was used to waking up hoarse, but usually by lunchtime my voice would come back," he said. But days later he could manage only a whisper. Frantic, he sought medical help and learned that one of his vocal chords had become paralyzed and was unable to vibrate properly. He was told he had a 50-50 chance of regaining his voice.

"It was so devastating," Mr. Barron said. "I got really depressed. I was thinking really dark thoughts. " He feared for his career. Though money from "Pocket Full of Kryptonite" allowed the band members to live lavishly for a while, Mr. Barron knew the money wouldn't last.

"I didn't have anything to fall back on," he said. "I was considering mule skinning, flower arranging."

With Mr. Barron all but mute, Universal, then the Spin Doctors' label, dropped the band, a development that barely registered, he said, against his concerns over his voice.

"If your house gets bombed, you don't say 'Oh, we lost the dining room,' " he said. "I felt like everything was being taken away from me, so, you know, why not the record deal?"

Mr. Barron spent the next several months trying to get his voice back. He tried yoga, acupuncture and steroid treatments. Seven months later his voice began to return. Eventually he was able to sing again. A cause for the disorder was never found, though Mr. Barron has his suspicions.

"Was it psychological?" he asked. "I wouldn't rule it out."

"I learned a lot from it," Mr. Barron added. "I was a 22-year-old with a hit record, flying first class, traveling the world. I took it for granted, and having it taken away was a punch in the face. It's given me a tremendous amount of humility."

By the time Mr. Barron recovered, the Spin Doctors - what was left of them anyway - had dispersed. Mark White, the bass player, had moved to Texas. Mr. Comess and Mr. Barron, who now had a daughter, lived in New York, and were the only members of the band in touch with each other. Mr. Schenkman lived outside Toronto.

In 2001 the band was invited to play a reunion gig at a party for Wetlands, which was closing. Mr. Schenkman, who hadn't spoken to Mr. Barron since he walked off stage, was game, as were Mr. White and Mr. Comess. Mr. Barron, was reluctant, but went along, he said, "because I didn't want to be the jerk who said no." The reunion was tense, Mr. Barron said, but two songs into their rehearsal, it was obvious the band still had it.

"It sounds corny," Mr. Barron said. "But the music was calling out, saying, 'Where have you been?' "

The band played occasionally over the next couple of years before deciding to make another album, which they recorded in Los Angeles last fall. "Nice Talking to Me" has ripping funk guitar and upbeat melodies that will sound familiar to the Spin Doctors' fans. With only a small label to support it, the band has fallen back on a familiar path, relying on touring, rather than radio, to build an audience. The band played 10 cities in 10 days this month, no easy task for men approaching middle age.

"We're back to 'back against the wall,' going back to the smaller clubs," Mr. Schenkman said. "We're having to work like we used to in the late 80's."

Mr. Barron said the band was well aware that its original audience has aged, but he said the group hoped that its pop sensibility would bridge the gap between younger and older listeners.

"We're a band everyone can agree to listen to on a car trip," Mr. Barron said. "What should we listen to, Limp Bizkit? 'No way,' said the parents. The Doobie Brothers? 'No way,' said the kids. Spin Doctors? 'O.K.' "

Mr. Barron said that he and his band mates were getting along now, mostly.

"There's still a certain level of dysfunctionality in the band," he said. "It's our chemistry, and you wouldn't want to fix it out of superstition. But we're trying to enjoy this. We've suffered enough."

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 24 September 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

I have to say that, as much as all the singles off Pocket made me want to annihilate the world Alex in NYC-style, I started feeling bad for them when I heard "Cleopatra's Favorite Cat" (the first and probably only single off the doomed follow-up). It was such an amazingly perfect career suicide (Barron scat-singing in Latin!).

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 24 September 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

"We're a band everyone can agree to listen to on a car trip," Mr. Barron said. "What should we listen to, Limp Bizkit? 'No way,' said the parents. The Doobie Brothers? 'No way,' said the kids. Spin Doctors? 'O.K.' "

Oh dear.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 September 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

"Cleopatra's Favorite Cat" I missed, but this:

Mr. Barron, 37, grew up in Princeton, N.J., and came to New York with just $100 in his pocket after dropping out of Bennington.

...is utterly classic. Dropped out of Bennington, eh? Yes, maybe he did only have a hundred bucks in his pocket. And an AMEX, and a Visa, and a Mastercard, and a Bloomingdale's Preferred.

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Saturday, 24 September 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

Cleopatra's favorite cat
Got his hands on Caeser's spats
The heat was on as you could see
So he front 'em to Mark Antony
Said, "My girlfriend's cat is smarter than me."

Caeser had an eye for clothes
He saw them spats and said, "I like those."
Caeser had not thing to say, except
"Jesu Christi Domine
Et tu, Brute
Jesu Christi Domine
Et tu, Brute."

The senate tried to sympathize
It was the cat they should despise
Informant told his whereabouts
Centurions to seek him out

Centurions! There go the centurions

Brutus had to turn his head
When that cat done went and said
"If he's got this thing for shoes
He just might be ambitious, too
They got holidays all in his name
And all a tyrant needs is fame
Those fascists don't play pretty games
Egypt is the place to be
But Rome is a democracy
Rome!

Caeser never got them back
Cause they killed his ass in the second act
Brutus spoke, then Antony
Said, "My girlfriend's cat is smarter than me
Egypt's biggest rivalry
Cleopatra's cat and me."

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 24 September 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

(I'm not responsible for the spelling, obviously)

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 24 September 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

I don't care what anybody says, "Two Princes" was AOK. And actually "Little Miss Can't Be Wrong" was too.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 24 September 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

That lede would work so much better if it went:

"A PERSON WOULD NEED TWELVE FINGERS to count how many years it has been since the world saw - or at least took note of - the Spin Doctors."

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 24 September 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

I've met Eric Schenkman several times, and he's a really nice guy - drove me all the way to his farm (almost a 3 hour drive) so I could set up his Pro Tools system. Drove me all the way back to my apartment, too.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 24 September 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

They sure like to call people "Mr" in that article

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 24 September 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

I take it you are not familiar with NY Times style guides.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 September 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)

"Biscuit Head" had a cool riff.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Sunday, 25 September 2005 04:55 (twenty years ago)

Hey Ned, this is nosey but, do you know where one can find NY Times style guides? I'd be interested to see how they do it (I'm not a regular).

Steev (Steev), Sunday, 25 September 2005 07:05 (twenty years ago)

Hey Ned, this is nosey but, do you know where one can find NY Times style guides?

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/081296389X/102-7909856-1808946?v=glance

it's true about the "mr." formality after first reference to a man's name. ("mrs."/"ms." for a woman obv.)

the happy smile patrol (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 25 September 2005 08:58 (twenty years ago)

i was going to call out the same line mr. nutrament did. yeah, the bennington part is classic, but i also like that he grew up in princeton (which, unlike new haven, really is an ivy league kind of town). figures that he went to bennington though. bet he went to fucking SIMON'S ROCK too.

the happy smile patrol (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 25 September 2005 09:02 (twenty years ago)

The album went on to sell an astonishing five million copies, reaching triple platinum.

?

Al (sitcom), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

*crickets*

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, wouldn't five million copies equate to quintiple-platinum, or am I missing something?

o. nate (onate), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

forty thousand million
Obviously, they are not doctors of math.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

THANK GOD MY PRAYERS ARE ANSWERED AT LAST!!!!!!!!!!!!

LITTLE MISS CAN'T BE WRONG AND NEITHER CAN THE SPIN DOCTORS! JUST GO AHEAD NOW!

(Are the snipers in position?)

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

(Seriously, is it okay if we shoot them? With knives?)

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

Why so restrained?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

(Ned shhh! You'll scare them back into hiding.)

The Ghost of Don't Go Duck-Hunting With Ned (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

I didn't mean in the HUNTING, I meant in the culling.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

We've suffered enough.

are you sure?

hmmm (hmmm), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

Doctors Of Spin >>> Counters Of Crows

(As these things go.)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

Oh like we don't want to assassinate Counting Crows, too.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

We could drop Duritz on the Spin Doctors and then they would all die. Problem solved!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

I want Duritz and Barron to face off in a scatting competition.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Which meaning of scat are we talking about there?

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

Cleopatra's favorite scat

Al (sitcom), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

NOODLE VAGUE I HATE YOU

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

Just doing my job, Dan.

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

i like how they referred to the singer as "rubbery."

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

Trik Turner Fan Club President (Tape Store), Thursday, 11 December 2008 06:24 (seventeen years ago)

I'm not sure why I decided to read all of that. Maybe I was hoping for some sort of apology. Nothing doing.

Craicwhore (craicwhore), Thursday, 11 December 2008 06:39 (seventeen years ago)

There was always hope. But in this case, cruelly dashed.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 December 2008 06:41 (seventeen years ago)

Dave Marsh's irrational hatred of this band ("Baby Jesus took your voice away because you KILL WIMMIN WITH YOUR MISOGYNY!!!!!") always kinda fascinated me. The music, not so much.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 11 December 2008 08:04 (seventeen years ago)


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