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Did the Wedding Present cover Pavement or vice versa?

― MickJ, Sunday, 25 September 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

pavement = original

― cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 25 September 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

Presumably the confusion arises because the first version most people heard was the WP version as opposed to the (then virtually unknown) Pavement - 'Bizarro' was 1989 and 'Westing...' 1992 wasn't it?

― Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Sunday, 25 September 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

The Wedding Present covered Pavement, but called it "Box Elder Mo" for some reason.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 25 September 2005 21:55 (twenty years ago)

That's what I thought, but now I'm wondering is how the hell Wedding Present knew about Pavement in early 1989.

― MickJ, Sunday, 25 September 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)

They were cool. Cooler than Pavement.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 25 September 2005 22:08 (twenty years ago)

From an old Weddoes FAQ:

Q5.2 Did TWP cover a Pavement song? Where can I find the original?

A5.2 David Gedge: "Keith returned from a holiday in America in 1989 with a cassette of ["Box Elder"] which we all liked and decided to cover on the Brassneck E.P. "

It can also be found on the American version of Bizarro, as well as Hit Parade 3.

The original version by Pavement can be found on the Slay Tracks record, as well as their Westing (By Musket & Sextant) compilation.

This question comes up because Pavement were not credited on the US version, though they were on the UK version. Also the copyright date on Westing is later than that of Bizarro, leading people to believe that Pavement covered TWP.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 September 2005 22:12 (twenty years ago)

According to Perfect Sound Forever, it was Mark Ibold (not yet bassist for Pavement) who recommended the Slay Tracks EP to Keith Gregory on that holiday.

― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Monday, 26 September 2005 01:11 (twenty years ago)

Holly Golightly also covered this

― gear (gear), Monday, 26 September 2005 03:05 (twenty years ago)

this band called should did a stellar cover of the wedding present's "spangle" that may be better than the original. i may have to YSI it for yous.

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 26 September 2005 03:09 (twenty years ago)

And the "Mo" in the title, if anyone cares, is the postal abbreviation for Missouri, which Box Elder is presumably located somewhere within.

― owen moorhead (i heart daniel miller), Monday, 26 September 2005 03:13 (twenty years ago)

well, malkmus says BOX ELDER M-O in the song.

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 26 September 2005 03:17 (twenty years ago)

http://www.royalalbertamuseum.ca/natural/insects/bugsfaq/pics/boxelder.jpg

― gear (gear), Monday, 26 September 2005 03:18 (twenty years ago)

there is no box elder in missouri. there's one in montana (postal code: MT). maybe that's what he meant to say.

― the happy smile patrol (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 26 September 2005 03:28 (twenty years ago)

here's that cover of "spangle" i was talking about:

http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3PVLCJBP5DQ400MFRAY0NOINZB

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 26 September 2005 03:30 (twenty years ago)

On the other hand, a lot of what Stephen Malkmus sings seems to make very little sense. I myself was surprised to discover via the expanded edition of "Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain" that "Stop Breathin'" is about tennis.

― owen moorhead (i heart daniel miller), Monday, 26 September 2005 03:34 (twenty years ago)

there is no box elder in missouri. there's one in montana (postal code: MT). maybe that's what he meant to say.

There is a Box Elder, Mo. It's located on the Missouri/Arkansas stateline on the far eastern side of both states, in the bootheel. It's not really an incorporated municipality, no zip code of its own or anything, but it is a community. Drove up there one day to take a picture and damned if my camera's batteries had run out of juice.

It doesn't say it here, but this is where Box Elder, Mo. is located. I've got a DeLorme Atlas that does denote the community.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 26 September 2005 04:46 (twenty years ago)

i need to track down that should album... if they're the band that used to be called shiFt they had a great ep called "a folding sieve" and a nice 7" too.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 26 September 2005 04:54 (twenty years ago)

BOX ELDER, MT

― kurt broder (dr g), Monday, 26 September 2005 04:57 (twenty years ago)

yes that's them. both albums are still in print and available very very cheap straight from the label:

http://cgi.ebay.com/SHOULD-1998-CD-My-Bloody-Valentine-Bedhead-Yo-La-Tengo_W0QQitemZ4772615766QQcategoryZ307QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/SHOULD-CD-Lilys-My-Bloody-Valentine-Slowdive-Hugo-Largo_W0QQitemZ4773077796QQcategoryZ307QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

― jimmy glass (electricsound), Monday, 26 September 2005 04:57 (twenty years ago)

hey neat, they rereleased a folding sieve with the 7" tracks at the end. their cover of that JPS experience song is great. thanks for the link!

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 26 September 2005 06:17 (twenty years ago)

Well, I didn't think it was possible for me to have any more respect for Pavement than I already have, but, um, I guess it was possible.

― Declan Zimmerman (Declan Zimmerman), Monday, 26 September 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

WP also covered Pell Mell too. (Then again, Steve Fisk recorded them)

― donut hallivallerieburtonelli omg lol (donut), Monday, 26 September 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

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