They have a new BB (link for discussion): http://www.cmj.com/bb2/viewtopic.php?t=169
This should be fun!
― BeeOK (boo radley), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)
― They Did Not Take The Required Drugs To Write That List, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)
― when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)
It’s an OK list and I was mainly going to scream about no inclusion of The Cure but have to remember that it’s from bands starting in 1981 or so. Although the Cure probably wasn’t played on the radio until "Let’s Go To Bed" was released in 1984.
So the thing I’m going to harp on is the You’re Welcome part under Radiohead. How are Verve influenced when they had parallel careers? Verve’s first EP All In the Mind was released in 1992. Both debuts came out in 1993 with Verve’s sound a lot more defined and took that to the next step. Then in 1995 they both put out their second album with Verve really establishing their sound but borrowed from their past more so then Radiohead did. In 1997 OK Computer was released but so was Urban Hymns. It just doesn’t seem like Radiohead did much to influence Verve when they were both doing their thing at the same exact time. For me it will always be Verve and not the Verve, same with Suede and not London Suede as that was their original name (and my introduction) until the law got into it.
― BeeOK (boo radley), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)
the pixies didnt impact shit (but released shit instead) and morrissey isnt a bald fag like michael stripes and black flag is dumb rollins shit so that doesnt count and fuck off u2 and radioheads
oh and NICE WHITE +1 BOOTS OF SPEED, BARNEY
― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)
This is how wrong they are: Liz Phair owes more thanks to Urge Overkill. (Not to mention the fact that Liz owes a lot of her notoriety to male rock critics, and Ani's fanbase is 97% female. No joke--got free tickets to her Carnegie Hall concert a few years back and you would think it was the Beatles at the Hall in 1964 what with all the teen girls screaming their lungs out.)
― matt carlson, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)
Then, you'll notice how it says they were influenced by Dinosaur Jr. yet Dinosaur Jr. appears nowhere on the list. Make sense? Superchunk were barely a footnote, it seems to me— not much different from dozens of other bands that popped up around that time.
― They Did Not Take The Required Drugs To Write That List, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)
That last clause is a reference to Juliana Hatfield, right? (Or was "My Sister" already referencing something I don't know about?) Because then the implication would be that Juliana Hatfield, the famous virgin of early-90s college rock, was the one who would have sex in the car.
― nabiscothingy, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)
― Gavin, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)
― nabsicothingy, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)
I saw them in very small articles for a few months one year and I saw 1 video of theirs played twice on 120 minutes. I bought "On The Mouth" and felt like wiping it On The Butt. No, not really. It was okay. Seemed similar to Poster Children or Eleventh Dream Day, Pixies minus the soft bits. They weren't that big or that influential, were they? I remember being kind of bored and a little disappointed. I did consider getting another SC album, but I was a broke high schooler.
― They Did Not Take The Required Drugs To Write That List, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)
Oh, poor Nabisco.
I think the Del Fuegos bit is indeed a reference to "My Sister," but done in a very clumsy way.
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)
Though to be honest I'd be just as content to see the Lemonheads in that space.
― nabiscothingy, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)
see, that's a glaring omission.
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)
― k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)
i know this isn't a grammar board, but i think it's relevant for the fact that "college" radio people don't even know what a prefix is, how smart could they possibly be regarding anything else?
― ryannyc (ryannyc), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)
So true..
― dar1a g (daria g), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)
and i think grindcore and death were developing concurrently with thrash in the mid-80s, making the whole statement wrong to begin with....i read this thing with the guy that wrote choosing death, and he said he was surprised that virtually none of the death/grindcore guys said they ever really listened to slayer...they all listened to a bunch of way obscure bands i'd never heard of, via the tape trading underground....
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)
― ~~~~ DODONGO DISLIKES SMOKE ~~~~ (ex machina), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)
No.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)
I was defending Polvo's Shapes on another board today. I don't get the hate for that album.
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)
verve turned crap without any assistance from radiohead.
― keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 02:11 (twenty years ago)
i like gbv as much as the next guy, but they didn't have anywhere near the impact on the real world as any of the 25 bands on that list.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 04:06 (twenty years ago)
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 04:07 (twenty years ago)
fave line - if you can't hear Wire, Talking Heads, X and the Clash in today's music, you're tuned to the wrong station - riight
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 05:46 (twenty years ago)
I wish I was into a different scene in my youth. Those were prime fucking years and I was too busy being serious and insecure to have as much sex as I could've otherwise.
― They Did Not Take The Required Drugs To Write That List, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 05:53 (twenty years ago)
I think their inclusion of New Order and the Smiths is supposed to be a proxy represention for every British indie band, 1979-1992.
Also, should I be surprised that PE and De La Soul made the list, but Beastie Boys didn't?
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 06:22 (twenty years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 06:37 (twenty years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 07:12 (twenty years ago)
― BeeOK (boo radley), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 07:33 (twenty years ago)
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)