Juno's best sellers for the past 6 months

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1. Prodigy - "Voodoo people" (Pendulum remix)
2. Tomas Andersson - "Washing up"
3. Bodyrockers - "I like the way you move"
4. Blaze - "Most precious love"
5. Deep Dish - "Say Hello"
6. Freemasons - "Love on my mind"
7. Quentin Harris - "Lets be young"
8. Alex Gaudimo and Jerma - "Little Love"
9. Cirez D - "Knockout"
10. C4 - "Jacques your B"
11. Seamus Haji - "Take me away"
12. Moby - "Raining again"
13. Stanton Warriors - "Headrock"
14. Missy Elliott - "Lose Control" (Jacques Lu Cont mixes)
15. Kerri Chandler - "Bar a thym"

So Juno is probably the biggest single retailer for dance music, right? So this is as good a barometer as any of which dance music people are buying (at least in 12" format). Does this mean the majority of bedroom DJs are still into dullard funky house?

And kinda bizarre that "Washing up" has such broad appeal, hey? Also: where are all those big electrohouse anthems I'd have been expecting to see there? "We interrupt this program" comes in at number 19, but that's about it...

Also - why is no one talking about any of these records on ILM?

― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 06:28 (twenty years ago)

that prodigy rmx is fucking awesome!

― hold tight the private caller (mwah), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 06:38 (twenty years ago)

I'm guessing they're selling a relatively small number of a very broad range of records and so this chart doesn't mean all that much.

― JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

I hate Pendulum with a massive passion from the depths of my heart because they epitomize everything I hate about mainstream drum & bass in 2005, but for some godawful reason I cannot bring myself to say that I also hate the remix of Voodoo people, and that is incredibly painful for me to say.

― golden mean, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

Funky house is still the most popular dance genre all over Europe, if you look at clubs & other nightlife that should be obvious. And it has been the case ever since rave declined in the early 90s.
Electro house, techno, progressive house, trance, etc are all relatively small markets.

Also: German DJ Charts: all (euro)house.

― Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

Wait, I thought it'd be all Kompakt and BPitch Control stuff in Germany. I guess I've just imagined that stuff was HUGE there. Isn't it?

― matt2 (matt2), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

i think most of juno's sales are uk based. kompakt et al is a very, very tiny scene in the uk. (un)funky house is massive in the uk.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

Germany has a mainstream just like other countries do I'd say.

Also even for non-predictable/obvious/commercial music there are just SO MANY labels, shops & wider appreciation for it all in Germany generally that I don't think it's possible one label could dominate like that.

It's like assuming Warp would be massive in the UK (terrible analogy [insert other more useful 'dance' label with indie/niche appeal here].

― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

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― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

I guess my point was, and maybe I missed something, that I didn't see any BPitch Control or Kompakt on that "German DJ Charts" linked above. Now I have no clue what this chart really is, but I assumed I'd see at least a bit of BPC/Kompakt.

― matt2 (matt2), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

I know what you mean, "Washing Up" at least if nothing else...

(Mylo? Moby? Scooter??)

― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

The regional charts (on that page) are much the same.

― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

Electro-house has it's own mainstream - stuff like Bodyrockers, Jacques Lu Cont, "I See Girls", Paris Avenue etc. I think those are the tracks that really sell.

I was thinking this morning that electro-house really has three tiers:

1) The radio / prole club stuff (see above)

2) The big "club" tracks that might sneak onto a Ministry of Sound comp ("Gecht Nocht", "Washing Up" etc. but also Black Strobe, Tiefschwarz remixes, the bigger Systematic and Get Physical tracks (apparently and oddly including recent Booka Shade!) etc.

3) The "German Underground" (as one guy at a local vinyl store would have it) - that interspace between Kompakt, Sender and Perlon.

Often the tracks that really stand out in people's memories are, I think, the ones which seem to straddle or move between two tiers - e.g. the biggest tracks/remixes from Eulberg, Jonson or Mayer which inhabit both level 2 and level 3. "Drop The Pressure" and "Rocker" inhabit both level 1 and 2.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

it's very easy to forget that people actually like really different stuff to you (us? me?), particularly as I suspect the more we get into whatever type of dance music the less we meet people who aren't in some way in to the same stuff.

I think Kompakt is interesting at the moment here in that while everyone has a good impression of it and generally would talk well of it, and Michael Mayer as a DJ is quite big, I wouldn't say saleswise it's through the roof or anything.

Get Physical is probably the most guaranteed sellout label in our shop at the moment. Dubsided though is doing very well (for some reason).

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 29 September 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

Yeah but at the same time it's also surely the case that people who buy 12s do not reflect the average radio listener. GP selling out in your shop would, one would think, also translate to it being popular on Juno.

― Jacob (Jacob), Thursday, 29 September 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

But the "average radio listener" doesn't have any influence on the Juno/German list either, both are based on vinyl sales to DJs.

The reason for popularity of funky discofied house is fairly simple I think: it's the only subgenre that draws women in large numbers, and hence most clubs play it. Techno/trance/hardcore/d'n'b/electro all have a predominantly male audience.

― Siegbran (eofor), Thursday, 29 September 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)

Sad but true.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 29 September 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)

Well, GPM is quite popular on Juno! I don't know how many 12s they sell a week but GPM is always close to top of their electro chart.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 29 September 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

yeah siegbran nails it right there. s'funny how "electroclash" was v female friendly but "electrohouse" totally isn't.

― Jacob (Jacob), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

to answer the original question, we've talked about kerri chandler's "bar a thym" here before, pretty much simply saying that it's awesome, but that's the only tune i recall i being discussed...

― tricky (disco stu), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

it's pretty impressive that a record on bpitch is number 2.

― tricky (disco stu), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

in the best sellers for the past eight weeks there is only one get physical release in the top 500 (chelonis' "la bateu ivre" at 47). "i feel space" (mandy rmx) at 17 though!

― tricky (disco stu), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

electrohouse strictly in the minimal style maybe not female friendly but there are probably as many girls as guys at our night, slightly more electroclash I suppose.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps you should be taking a look at Groove.de. Here's their top 20 singles:

1. ARGY LOVE DOSE (LUCIANO REMIX) Poker Flat
2. EGOEXPRESS ARANDA Ladomat
3. SASCHA FUNKE BOY BPitch Control
4. CLAUDE VONSTROKE DEEP THROAT Dirty Bird
5. ACTUAL JAKSHUN SEQUENTIAL CIRCUS M_nus
6. TREVOR LOVEYS & JESSE ROSE PRES. IZIT? PLAYED OUT EP Made To Play
7. RICARDO VILLALOBOS CHROMOSUL Perlon
8. LOUDERBACH BLACKMIRROR Underline
9. ANJA SCHNEIDER & SEBO K SIDE LEAPS/RANCHO RELAXO Mobilee
10. MONOLAKE DIGITALIS PLUMBICON Monolake
11. KONRAD BLACK FEAT. GHOSTMAN MEDUSA SMILE Wagon Repair
12. LUSINE INSIDE/OUT Ghostly International
13. TROY PIERCE RED VELVET LINES (BLACK BOX) Mo’s Ferry
14. INNERSPHERE AKA SHINEDOE PHUNK Intacto
15. TONY ROHR WATER, WATER, EVERYWHERE Electric Avenue
16. GORILLAZ DARE (DFA REMIX) Parlophone
17. KOERNER & TREPLEC UNTENRUMGEHTSBESSER Milnor Modern
18. OLIVER HACKE SUBJECT CARRIER (ALEX UNDER REMIX) Trapez
19. MOVE D ANNE WILL Liebe*Detail
20. ADAM KROLL GALOPP Traum

Plus you can check out the personal DJ charts for:

Steve Bug BERLIN, [Poker Flat]
Tobi Neumann BERLIN, [Cocoon]
Dominik Eulberg BONN, [Traum]
Ellen Allien BERLIN, [BPitch Control]
Matthias Tanzmann LEIPZIG, [Moon Harbour]
Miss Kittin BERLIN, [Nobody’s Bizzness]
Modeselektor DJ-Team BERLIN, [BPitch Control]
Koze HAMBURG, [Kompakt]
Jay Haze BERLIN, [Contexterrior]
Luciano BERLIN, [Cadenza]
Sasse BERLIN, [Moodmusic]
DJ Pierre KASSEL, [Hörspielmusik]
Dinky BERLIN, [Horizontal]
Mathias Kaden GERA, [Freude am Tanzen]
Eurokai HAMBURG, [Liebe*Detail]
GOOD GROOVE FRANKFURT, [Multicolor]
Lawrence HAMBURG, [Dial]
Anja Schneider BERLIN, [Mobilee]
Andre Gardeja BERLIN, [Freizeitglauben]
Andy Vaz DÜSSELDORF, [Background]
Cio D’Or MÜNCHEN, [Treibstoff]
Dixon BERLIN, [Innervision]
Falko Brocksieper BERLIN, [Sub Static]
ND Baumecker BERLIN, [Freundinnen]
Gerd Janson DARMSTADT, [Running Back]
Kabuki FRANKFURT, [Precision]
Troy Pierce Berlin, [Underline]
Hell BERLIN, [Gigolo]
ARK PARIS, [Perlon]
Tiga MONTREAL, [Turbo]
Serafin ZÜRICH, [Bruchstuecke]
Prins Thomas OSLO, [Full Pupp]
Todd Terje OSLO, [Full Pupp]
Tomas Barfod aka Tomboy KOPENHAGEN, [Gomma]
Erol Alkan LONDON, [Trash]
JoJo DeFreq LONDON, [Nag Nag Nag]
JoJo DeFreq LONDON, [Nag Nag Nag]
JoJo DeFreq LONDON, [Nag Nag Nag]
Lee Van Dowski ZÜRICH, [Cadenza]
Bruno Pronsato SEATTLE, [Telegraph]
Sonja Moonear GENF, [Junction SM]
Erik Rug PARIS, [Maine Recordings]
Laurent Garnier PARIS, [pedrobroadcast.com]
Alan Oldham DETROIT, [Pure Sonik]
The Advent LISSABON, [Tresor]
DJ Shufflemaster TOKIO, [Subvoice]

Get to it!

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 29 September 2005 23:11 (twenty years ago)

it's pretty impressive that a record on bpitch is number 2.

-- tricky

To be honest, the more I listen to "Washing Up" the more I find it one of their blandest & least interesting (most accessible/predictable) 'big' singles. I don't think the same of "Happy Happy" or "Numb" though. I dunno, I just find the breakdown & whatever a bit generic & obvious in that one somehow.

I think I'd be more impressed if it had been something a little more leftfield getting the recognition.

(unrelated) Radio 1 have been playing 'Body Language' by MANDY (a track, not the mix) a hell of a lot. Maybe that'll be next to break out?

― fandango (fandango), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

Man, I still don't like "Washing Up". I feel such a snob!

Rocker, Prototype, Happy Happy ... even Geht's Noch in this vein I like/love, but this one just leaves me cold. And the remix is annoying and stumbling.

― login name (fandango), Sunday, 30 October 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

i was reading an interview with a very popular/famous promoter (here in moscow land), and at one point he said to the guy journalist: "only you professionals know MYLO".......

i cried, omg, did he really say that, omg

― nique (nique), Monday, 31 October 2005 00:45 (twenty years ago)

to answer the original question, we've talked about kerri chandler's "bar a thym" here before, pretty much simply saying that it's awesome, but that's the only tune i recall i being discussed...
-- tricky

On the same list and 7 deserved places above, you have Quentin Harris with "Let's Be Young", it's teh massiv choon. Well if anyone wants to talk about house instead of electro, Juno's top sellers as as good a thread as any on ILM...

― blunt (blunt), Sunday, 13 November 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

Updated list:

1 ANDERSSON, Tomas Washing Up (12") Bpitch Control Germany
2 CIREZ D Knockout (12") Mouseville 21 Jul 05
3 HARRIS, Quentin Let's Be Young (1-sided 12") Unrestricted Access US
4 LAWNCHAIR GENERALS You Got To (12") Aroma Belgium
5 MOBY Raining Again (12") Mute 26 May 05
6 CIREZ D Re-Match (12") Mouseville 20 Oct 05
7 SOULSEARCHER vs IAN CAREY Feelin' Love (12") Soulfuric Deep US
8 ELLIOT, Missy Lose Control (1st 12") Atlantic 22 Jul 05
9 PRYDZ, Eric Goodlife (1-sided 12") unknown label
10 CHANDLER, Kerri Bar A Thym/Sunshine & Twilight (12")
11 GORILLAZ Dare (remixes) (12" promo) EMI 04 Aug 05
12 EVERYTHING, Fred/20 FOR 7/VANESSA BARKER Friday (12")
13 C4 Jacques Your B (12") unknown label Germany
14 MYLO Drop The Pressure (remixes) (12") Hussle'n'Bussle
15 SPEKTRUM Kinda New (Tiefschwarz remixes) (12")
16 KILLERS, The Mr Brightside (remixes) (double 12")
17 TRENTEMOLLER Physical Fraction (12") Audiomatique Germany
18 YOUNGMAN, Joey Captain Boom Boom EP (12") Fetish Recordings US
19 TRENTEMOLLER Polar Shift (12") Poker Flat Germany
20 PLUMP DJs Saturday Night Lotion (Sampler Part 1) (12")

Interesting to see the Spektrum "Kinda New" remixes on there, I would have thought this would be completely played out by now.

Blunt, you're right about "Let's Be Young", that tune is brilliant.

― jeffery (jeffery), Sunday, 13 November 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

six months pass...

PENDULUM suck ass the only reason voodoo people is good is cos it is not originally by them.
STOP LISTENING TO PENDULUM
if u like DNB listen to evol intent or opius

― jack lawrence, Monday, 15 May 2006 14:21 (twenty years ago)

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