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Sorta odd that this is coming out on Malicious Damage, no? I'da thought the Orb's archives would have been locked up by some major.

Anyone know anything about these tracks?

― Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

Not at all. Alex "Orb" Patterson was a roadie for Killing Joke (and also a member of the Transit Kings).

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

There was also the Orb Vs. Meat Beat Manifesto disc on Malicious Damage of last year (Battersea Shield)

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and Alex Patterson was the opening act (as a deejay) for the Killing Joke re-union shows last February.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

Yeah I knew about the Patterson/Malicious Damage connection. I guess I was thinking that major label deals somehow meant giving up rights to unreleased material. Which now seems like a silly idea. But thanks for the KJ trivia lesson!

― Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

i listened to the orb today. it was good. ("oxbow lakes" single)

― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

The cover is tacky.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

But it's holographic! And apparently the music inside is "ultra-fi".

― Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 21:30 (twenty years ago)

I can never work out whether i like the orb or not... it's weird. Sometimes I really want to hear them and other times I just see them as these cosmic patchouli-jokers with a rubbish sense of humour. What's their best album in all?

― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld. Specifically the second disc.

― Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)

That is the fan favourite. I also very much enjoyed Pomme Fritz, but I think this was an unpopular one. How does each record sound now?

― moley, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 21:51 (twenty years ago)

Pomme Fritz is my favorite. It's weird and good. That record made me a fan, I was on the fence about them before that.

Orbus Terrarum is the proggiest, liked that one too. The last two records were so generic, they hurt my feelings. The diva vocalists.

― milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 22:29 (twenty years ago)

orbus terrarum is some amazing music.

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)

Who's heard "Orbsessions"? None of those track titles look familiar to me ... have these tracks been bootlegged anywhere (I would expect it to be so)?

xposts Orbus Terrarum is fucking boring, that's the record that put me off the Orb for years ... that said, the live shows they did on that tour were incredible. Somehow, the intensity of those gigs was lost on the record.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

Don't forget UFOrb. The 45 minute mix of Blue Room is the bomb. Also the live album, which really does sound live!

― sympathizer (sympathizer), Thursday, 29 September 2005 00:37 (twenty years ago)

milton, I you Pomme Fritz too! Have you heard it recently? Has it aged well?

― moley (moley), Thursday, 29 September 2005 00:39 (twenty years ago)

'I you' = 'you like', believe it or not.

― moley (moley), Thursday, 29 September 2005 00:39 (twenty years ago)

haven't heard any of it in forever. I have a feeling it'll hold up, especially "We're Pastie to be Grill You"

Orbus Terrarum does start off slow, but once you get to "Oxbow Lakes" & onward... miles high

And yeah, the 40 minute "Blue Room" yes sir. And the live93 version of "Assassin".

― milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 29 September 2005 00:49 (twenty years ago)

I won't believe it until I see it, but the upcoming Orb CD on Kompakt is suppoed to be called "Okie Dokie It's the Orb On Kompakt."

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 29 September 2005 00:56 (twenty years ago)

lmao!!

mmmmmmmm pomme fritz

― tricky (disco stu), Thursday, 29 September 2005 01:06 (twenty years ago)

live93 was the next thing i was going to pull out and listen to. (going through the "o" box)

― tricky (disco stu), Thursday, 29 September 2005 01:07 (twenty years ago)

seems like there is something in the air. the orb getting love (only yesterday i dug out Ultraworld and Orbus from the archive!), the excellently OTT rearrival of FSOL in their AA full on prog mode, and the new deep bass ambience from The Black Dog with the best thing since Spanners.

tis 94 all over again. glorious.

― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 29 September 2005 06:17 (twenty years ago)

Black Dog has returned? As a trio or as a solo act?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 29 September 2005 06:43 (twenty years ago)

trio. but different people this time round :

http://www.dustscience.com

its a great album if you like your techno all deep and rich

― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 29 September 2005 07:29 (twenty years ago)

Ah, I stopped listening to him/them after Music for Commercials and Short Films, or whatever it was called. While I liked the sound on that record more than the stuff they did before the other two guys went to reform Plaid, the tracks were just vignettes, not much listening pleasure in them. I take it that the new record has a bit longer tunes in it?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 29 September 2005 07:44 (twenty years ago)

I think the problemI had with The Black Dog was that their music always sounded kinda distant and alien (though not distant in the sense Autechre is distant - Black Dog's distantness had more to do with the alienness than abstractness), which made their tracks difficult to root for emotionally (with a few exceptions, such as "Chase the Manhattan"). I wonder if this is still the case?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 29 September 2005 07:56 (twenty years ago)

I thought after a while that they were purveyors of charming, pretty, mildly intellectual (perhaps even slightly pseudo-intellectual) wallpaper funk that was all surface expression. They shared this with their contemporaries in and around Warp and ART. They were not people of particularly deep impulse, and did not possess a desire of and above to please and impresss slightly intellectual young men. This period of Warp was rather unsatisfying to the soul compared to their earlier records (I'm thinking especially of the LFO / Sweet Exorcist period of 12"'s). The obvious attempts to posture a rather exclusive elite high-mindedness were, and are,utterly unconvincing and unsatisfying. The attempt by Warp acts to hypnotise one's mind with geeky and cliched concepts of weirdness, and neurotically exhibitionist rhythmic trapese artistry, utterly without any real intent except to impress, has made the label wearing to the spirit.

― moley, Thursday, 29 September 2005 08:14 (twenty years ago)

So there.

― moley, Thursday, 29 September 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)

This is so true, I caught that tour and it was one of the best "ambient/electronic" gigs I'd ever been to... then I listened to the record and it bore absolutley no resemblance to the live set.

Does anyone have a bootleg of this tour? I saw them at Southampton Guildhall.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 29 September 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

There used to be a great site with the sources for hundreds of Orb samples. Does anyone still have that list on the net?

― Maxwell von Bismarck (maxwell von bismarck), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

oh - the black dog's silenced is made up of long(ish) tracks, no jumping about, or mad cutups a la prefuse 73, and its very melody rich.

― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

I have this on order but haven't yet received it :|

It has had some very decent reviews, but I'll reserve judgement till I here it for myself in full.

― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

*hear

― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

This is a volume of previously unreleased material, and yes a portion of it was available in bootleg form... or for downloaders to locate. Yungle, for example, was found on the original Napster, along with the first promo copy of Cydonia. It was not on the final album.

As far as people holding rights to this music, it is true there were problems putting it out. Kris Weston aka Thrash is missing from this compilation, as he was originally intended to be featured on it (according to the now corrected Malicous Damage website). The track Orbert, was a cut down version of the FFWD demo. He was not contacted initially and fought to get it off at the last moment, due to his part in the production.

Oh well. This album is supposed to be alot better than Okie Dokie: The Orb on Kompakt, another album released this past week.

― orb_expert, Monday, 10 October 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

have heard Okie Dokie and it's beautiful. don't know why people be hatin on the Orb. The album on Kompakt is great.

― biz, Monday, 10 October 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)

Maybe I'm just prejudiced, but I'm guessing the hippie side of the Orb fanbase might not accept more minimal German-leaning Kompakt-type stuff? Which Okie Dokie might not be anyway? So I might be completely off-base?

― Lukas (lukas), Monday, 10 October 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

Mmm, could be too techno (Christ, how can anything be too techno? :) Which it is for the most parts, although there some ambientish tracks towards the end. But yeah Biz is OTM: a beautiful album.

― Omar (Omar), Monday, 10 October 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

the only problem with okie dokie is it sounds alot like just a Thomas Fehlmann joint, versus the usual Alex Paterson feel. I'm a huge Orb fan, and thus am more critical of them than any other band.

I hold them to a high standard.

― orb_expert, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 00:56 (twenty years ago)

Best Orb album cover ever, assuming you actually buy the thing and get the hologram. I also love all the useless trinkets Malicious Damage throw in their mail order deliveries.

Comments on the music to follow...

― Lukas (lukas), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 23:35 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i'm broke... so i FINALLY found the damn thing on soulseek... its going slow and it took a week to get a hit on my wishlist... so i'll be patient.

I don't know if its the best orb album ever, even having not heard all the songs. UF ORB is the best ever, everyone knows that.

― orbX, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 23:41 (twenty years ago)

um. cover. album cover.

― Lukas (lukas), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)

really? its that special eh? Well, i can pick it up at the record store, hopefully. I can do away with all the trinkets from malicious damage, but i must admit, i'm feeling abit the deprived child for not having got anything with my Battersea Shield album.

BTW, i'm retracting all previous statements. This could be the best orb album ever, even though it was sorta thrown together willy nilly. such lush sounds, variations of genres and sense of humor a yard deep.

― orbX, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

So far Mummie and Chromatik are sounding like the new classics. orbX, orbex, you got any other favs?

― Lukas (lukas), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

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