― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)
Saint Etienne, if you mean a "collection" in the metaphorical sense (i.e., they've never actually released such a collection).
― brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)
― M Carty (mj_c), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)
― Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 09:41 (twenty years ago)
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 09:44 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 09:54 (twenty years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)
― Vic Funk, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)
― Dan Gr (certain), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)
― Jeff W (zebedee), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)
I prefer the tidier collection that originally appeared on the flipside of the cassette of Standing On a Beach. Just a bit more manageable.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)
The new Embrace one is great (obviously I'd say that.)
The SFA one I like but have never been totally enamoured with, not sure why. The original packaging was excellent.
I think the Oasis collection is overrated. The Pixies one seems a bit lightweight too.
I'd like The Boo Radleys, Radiohead and Blur to do them.
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)
― Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)
― retrogurl, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)
Radiohead have released a few EP's / mini albums in America with lots of B-Sides on them - the My Iron Lung EP, and that Airbag / How Am I Driving? thing spring to mind.
― Matt Slack ((1903-70)), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)
― elgolfo (elgolfo), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)
― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)
lots of lovely madness tracks hidden away on the early b-sides.
― mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)
― Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)
― when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)
Saint Etienne's "Continental" is b-sides, non-album singles and other detrius and is as good an album as any other by them.
Pulp's "Second Class" can't be denied, although I think it was only available as a bonus CD with "Different Class"
― everything, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)
― Marxism Goes Better With Coke (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)
"Barbed Wire Kisses" seconded.
― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)
― phil turnbull (philT), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)
― chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)
Travis, Oasis, Embrace, Blur, Kula Shaker, Radiohead, The Libertines, The Coral (awesome b-sides), The Zutons, Garbage, Gorillaz, etc
I'll post more if I think of em.
Incidentally, the ONE Strokes b-side with REgina Spektor is sweet.
― Erock LAzron, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)
Some other ones that weren't mentioned but were put out by their labels:
Verve – No Come Down (U.S. only?)Doves – Lost SidesMuse – HullaballoSlowdive – Blue DayUnbelievable Truth – Misc. MusicCharlatans – Songs from the Other SideSupergrass – Limited Bonus (with In It For the Money)
I also want a Boo Radleys one in addition Elbow.
― BeeOK (boo radley), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)
― everything, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)
― late adopter, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 00:42 (twenty years ago)
― sleeve (sleeve), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 01:22 (twenty years ago)
The Prince B-sides disc of "The Hits/The B-Sides" is super-essential. I mean, that's where he put "Erotic City." And "17 Days." And "La, La, La, Hee, Hee, Hee." And "Hello." And and and.
Seconded on the Pet Shop Boys' Alternative. And does the Who's Odds & Sods count?
― Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 02:04 (twenty years ago)
More of a singles market even still, as compared to here, ergo the next to flog more to you, the consumer. Which I'm not minding.
Many obvious choices (for me) already made -- Verve, PSB, Prince, Suede (I've created sequels with the later B-sides that are often quite great!), Pumpkins (similarly), Radiohead (similarly), Nick and the Bad Seeds, Siouxsie, Cure, JAMC, Fall, House of Love, Oasis, Jam, etc. etc.. My homemade MBV, Pulp and Boo Radleys ones rule the roost, and I know I have a few more around like them.
I humbly submit You Need a Mess of Help to Stand Alone covers the early ones.
Not mentioned so far -- the Walkabouts' Death Valley Days and Drunken Soundtracks, three discs total of rarities and B-sides et al that are just wonderful, like the band itself.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 02:13 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 02:14 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)
― Cunga (Cunga), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 02:28 (twenty years ago)
― maria b (maria b), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 04:46 (twenty years ago)
So yes I own all 27 single by the Boo Radleys for example, on line now, with the fan compilation A Boo-sides Collection CD1 filling in all the blanks. Boo-sides is by far the most DL thing I have ever had in my folder for the two years I have been on-line. So I have completed collections by quite a few bands and have three major bands shared now. That four letter b band is quite popular with more added in the weeks to come. Moose’s albums and singles are next because I had a request.
Not going to share stuff that is really easy to pick up on compilations like early Suede or Spiritualized. Or the really big bands that are fairly easy to access like Radiohead, Oasis or Pumpkins. Granted these are CD Singles so yes 90% of it is English but I do have some CD Singles by American bands like Mercury Rev, Luna, and Sparklehorse.
The network that I’m sharing this on will remain nameless, easy to figure out, but always hanging out in the I Love Music room. All rips are high quality VBR because I found most stuff out there to be rather piss poor. So if you are into this kind of stuff and want to hear it than you might want to browse my folders. You can access most stuff now but as I keep adding bands, I will have to restrict access to some of these files. So be sure to ask to get added to my user list so you don’t miss out on the fun in the future.
No nOObs!
― BeeOK (boo radley), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 07:07 (twenty years ago)
Back in the day, I helped Ned out with a few 'unissued' b-sides from their final single that wasn't. That's a 4 CD set! (I think it has the a-sides too.)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 07:20 (twenty years ago)
― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)
And Kylie's bsides from the Light Years/Fever eras are very good.
― brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 09:56 (twenty years ago)
Nope, strictly B-sides and comp appearances -- one separate disc is nothing but the remixes.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)
Several people have mentioned Slowdive's Blue Day here, but that wasn't really a B-sides collection, more an EP tracks collection. If you think of Slowdive, Morningrise, and Catch The Breeze as the a-sides to the first three EPs then two out of three are on Blue Day.
― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 10:19 (twenty years ago)
― BeeOK (boo radley), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 11:06 (twenty years ago)
― telephone thing, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 00:20 (twenty years ago)
― thousands of tiny luminous spheres (plebian), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 05:19 (twenty years ago)
Sci-Fi Lullabies is great, but a bit sprawling for my taste.
― mitya don't need no friggin' password, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 05:42 (twenty years ago)
― BeeOK (boo radley), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 08:52 (twenty years ago)
― Stephen Bush (Stephen B.), Sunday, 6 August 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)
― less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Sunday, 6 August 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)
― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 6 August 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)
― less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Sunday, 6 August 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)
― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 6 August 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)
― Ice Cream Electric (Ice Cream Electric), Sunday, 6 August 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)
― less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Sunday, 6 August 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)
― less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Sunday, 6 August 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)
xpost
You got me... :-(
― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 6 August 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 6 August 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)
I've bumped this because I'd like to see what bands are easier to collect now and which still really need a collection. This thread was surprisingly narrow in terms of what type of bands it has covered so far. I guess when I hear people talk about b-side collections, I assume it will include rare tracks from compilations, unreleased stuff and EPs that aren't as readily available as the studio albums.
In the recent Cocteau Twins poll we were talking a bit about how frustratingly incomplete Lullabies To Violane was. Is there any other collections you feel have glaring omissions?
I think there was some discussion on The Cure thread how neither the Three Imaginary Boys expanded reissue or Join The Dots contains "Jumping Someone Else's Train".
I heard Radiohead weren't happy about EMI reissuing their first 6 albums with all the b-sides and ep tracks but it was sorely overdue that stuff being widely available, I consider a lot of that stuff essential and I'd still like there to be a separate collection for all that stuff. I'm always hoping they put out that early version of "Nude" partially seen on Meeting People Is Easy. There is several nice early live versions but I still think that MPIE version is superior to any other one I've heard
I've got an REM bootleg from maybe the mid 00s which had all their fan club singles which is pretty good but very uneven; the early singles are mostly fun covers of bands who were their peers at the time but some of the later singles seem like they didn't have the same enthusiasm for putting out singles every Christmas; one of the 90s singles included some of the covers Radiohead and REM were doing of each other (there is a documentary with Thom Yorke singing "Be Mine" with Buck/Mills backing that was really nice, not one of the live versions they did though). The In Time "best of" bonus disc had some really good stuff but I'd only consider about 3 or 4 tracks worthwhile ("Fretless" is essential) but I'm not really sure what a comprehensive REM collection what be like or if many of their b-sides are really worth bothering with, as they mostly seemed to be alternate versions and cover songs. There was a really great instrumental on one of the fan club singles which isn't like much I've heard by them. The Acoustic versions of the Reveal tracks are stunning, they were included on the In Time bonus track and the sleeve notes had Peter Buck(?) saying he thought there might be a fully acoustic version of the album released someday since he felt the acoustic versions were mostly superior, I'd love to see that come out but I doubt it right now. Their cover of "Wichita Lineman" is fucking gorgeous.
Chapterhouse were reissued fairly well but there are still a bunch of tracks from the rare Rownderbowt missing. Some of those tracks were on the Best Of but bands with only 3 fucking discs of material don't need a Best Of, and why stack one with songs that can easily be found on 2 earlier discs.
Slowdive has a bunch of bootlegs that need a proper release.
Mew has bloody loads of b-sides for a modern band, also Japanese bonus tracks and a track for their "best of". I've heard they are done with major labels so maybe now would be a good time for a collection.
British Sea Power have loads too but I'm not sure if I still care enough (I have 3 of their albums and I think the debut was head and shoulders above the rest). But they should have a collection.
Frank Black. There was a collection called Oddballs but it's hard to find now. 4AD has most (all?) singles up on mp3 so the need for collections doesn't seem as urgent. I guess mp3 shopping has made b-side collecting less frustrating.
Lycia have two compilations but I think there is still some later odds and ends not collected. Tracking down various artists goth compilations is tough so a third Lycia compilation would be appreciated. Thankfully Trance To The Sun (another goth band who made lots of compilation appearances) has been putting out compilations recently.
Rise And Fall Of A Decade has one of those annoying best of/rare tracks hybrids (I hate those), it has several amazing tracks but there is a few other rare tracks that I would love on a proper rarities compilation.
Cranes has a best of/b-sides and EPs collection but it was very incomplete. The studio album reissues started to be more comprehensive but the reissues have seemed to stop, so there is still a bunch of uncollected stuff.
Butthole Surfers. I don't own Humpty Dumpty LSD yet but I think there is still a few more loose ends but I'm not sure they'd be that important.
The Band has a big collection called A Musical History, another annoying best of/rare tracks thing. I'd like a simpler collection of non-album tracks as that collection is six discs and pretty expensive.
Does Lush, Guided By Voices, Kate Bush or Leonard Cohen have b-side collections?
I've heard that Swervedriver has an abundance of rare stuff that is as good as their best albums. Anyone know/agree?
I've been headaching on other threads about Henry Cow and Amon Duul II bonus tracks and looking for b-sides and compilation exclusive tracks has always been unpleasant to me. I wish b-sides weren't a thing, it probably sounds like the complaints of a privileged person but I'm sure b-sides contribute to collectors having high blood pressure or going mad (especially with multiple versions of the same single or bands like Guided By Voices and Smashing Pumpkins making you buy several versions of an album so you can get all the songs). I hate those best of/b-sides and rarities hybrids because I hate keeping my eye on the cd player so I can skip the album tracks (I hate wearing out songs, it doesn't take me many plays to wear them out and it just keeps things nice and tidy to keep them separated). I've heard some people love tracking down singles but I just cant imagine not feeling slightly miffed about buying something for one or two songs. I understand why japaneses bonus tracks exist and appearances on various artist compilations make sense but I best of/greatest hits with new or rare tracks drives me nuts. I actually wish singles only had album tracks or some crappy remix you can safely ignore.
But at least all that isn't as bad as the stench of comic book variant covers. Thankfully I don't care for most artists who do variant covers, but when I was younger I tracked down and checklisted loads of them. Recently I made sure to buy a Richard Corben cover of a comic about censorship but even though that was probably the first time in years, it still annoyed me.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 2 November 2013 23:03 (twelve years ago)
B-Sides; existance enevitable, but why?
B-sides - Classic or Dud?
two discussions about b-sides
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 2 November 2013 23:40 (twelve years ago)
REM has "Dead Letter Office", which is on par with the rest of their first four albums. I'm also partial to the bonus disc of oddities that came with the "And I Feel Fine" IRS best-of.
Lush had a Japanese b-sides comp.
Kate Bush had all her b-sides through 1990 or so collected in the "This Woman's Work" box set.
Was Cocteau Twin's "Lullabies To Violane" really incomplete aside from a couple of instrumentals? At least the first volume.
British Sea Power, yeah, tons of non-lp material.
Nick Cave has an amazing 3CD box called simply "B-Sides & Rarities".
Many bands that I could say need a comp, like the Go-Betweens, actually had all their non-lp material reissued on bonus discs with their remastered albums.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 3 November 2013 01:18 (twelve years ago)
I want both of these:http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51kuNaMo1pL._SL500_AA280_.jpghttp://eil.com/images/main/Dusty+Springfield+-+Complete+A+%26+B+Sides+1963-1970+-+DOUBLE+CD-368128.jpg
― brimstead, Sunday, 3 November 2013 01:26 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, me too.
― Blecch Dreieinigkeitsmoses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 3 November 2013 01:35 (twelve years ago)
"Was Cocteau Twin's "Lullabies To Violane" really incomplete aside from a couple of instrumentals? At least the first volume."
Millimilenary (NME single, collected on The Pink Opaque in '85)Dials (1987-ish track? Only in 1991 boxset)The High Monkey-Monk (1987-ish, on 1990 Melody Maker comp)Oomingmak instrumental (though, y'know, it's only an instrumental; features as the closing credits music on Lonely As An Eyesore video comp)Crushed (on Lonely Is An Eyesore)Need-Fire (from the Judge Dredd soundtrack album)Touch Upon Touch (from the Volume 17 compilation)
Courtesy of Michael Jones and Hideous Lump
also alternative versions of Aikea-Guinea and Pearly Dew-Drop’s Drops in place of those originally released on the singles and no 12" mix of Peppermint Pig
Much to Spencer Chow's chagrin
― OutdoorFish, Monday, 4 November 2013 01:08 (twelve years ago)
I've griped in other threads about Squeeze dribbling out their B-sides on umpteen redundant Best Ofs--they should have released a complete B-sides collection years ago. They did put out deluxe reissues of 4 albums back in 2007 (Argybargy, Sweets from a Stranger, Frank, Ridiculous), most of which have the relevant B-sides except Ridiculous, which is missing at least 5 fine B-sides.
Andy Partridge has rumored a follow-up to XTC's Rag and Bone Buffet off and on for a few years, which would presumably sweep up all the late B-sides, comp tracks and a few early live B-sides that never got re-released.
Of course the biggest offender is PINK FUCKING FLOYD, who are neglecting a goldmine of legitimately previously released A & B-sides and comp tracks which RULE! The closest they've gotten is the 10-track Early Singles collection which was thrown into the 8-disc Shine On box set seemingly as an afterthought. C'mon, Nick Mason's not doing anything with his days; make him put the thing together. And I want everything, godammit; no leaving anything out just because Roger's doesn't think it's up to snuff!
― Hideous Lump, Monday, 4 November 2013 01:47 (twelve years ago)
waters?
― OutdoorFish, Monday, 4 November 2013 02:14 (twelve years ago)
I think I heard somewhere Rog saying they should never have released "Point Me at the Sky."
― Hideous Lump, Monday, 4 November 2013 02:32 (twelve years ago)
never heard it. is it bad?
― OutdoorFish, Monday, 4 November 2013 02:46 (twelve years ago)
Search:Quique - PolyfusiaCurve - Pubic Fruit
― Stevie D(eux), Monday, 4 November 2013 02:46 (twelve years ago)
It's not the best of their early singles but it's not bad by any means. "Corporal Clegg"-esque, but a little less chaotic. It was their last standalone single, released between Saucerful of Secrets and More.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr3Gimr46t0
― Hideous Lump, Monday, 4 November 2013 03:42 (twelve years ago)
But Jumping Someone Else's Train IS on the Three Imaginary Boys reissue and it wasn't a B-side so why would it be on Join The Dots?
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 4 November 2013 09:34 (twelve years ago)
did they mean Another Journey by Train?
― OutdoorFish, Monday, 4 November 2013 10:01 (twelve years ago)
Is the earliest b-sides compi likely to be the Rolling Stones No Stone Unturned which came outin the early 70s if II'm thinking right. I picked it up in a sale in Our Price ( I think) in the early 80s because it had a psychedelic era photo on its sleeve and was pretty cheap. not sure if I would have recognised tracks on it but did enjoy it. Later found outit was being heavily dissed as one of the worst cash ins the Rolling Stones ever put out but it does have some very good stuff on it like Child of The Moon, I'm Moving ON, Who's Driving Your Plane etc.
May be the fact taht it was a b-sides compi coming out in '73 that made it seem like a cash-in. I know Nuggets was already out and there were various K-tel compis around but was reissuing what might have been classed as lesser songs at the time as yet a recognised bonus? The tracklisting is in completely non-chronological order too. But I thought it was a good lp which I think I played a lot as a 14 or 15 year old. I didn't pick up individual lps by the band until years later.
― Stevolende, Monday, 4 November 2013 12:47 (twelve years ago)
I know Nuggets was already out and there were various K-tel compis around >point f this was that the idea of reissuing some semi obscure 60s material had already happened but mostly I think hit material even by one hit wonder bands. Not lesser material by a recognised band. Not sure when the idea of bonus tracks first appeared. is it as late as the late 80s when the cd reissue thing was happening.
Would be interested to find out if anything similar by any other band was happening around the time that No Stone Unturned came out. But I think you were probably lucky to have non-lp singles compiled since music before any idea of self-importance set in was still regarded as disposable. Or is that understanding years after the fact accurate?
― Stevolende, Monday, 4 November 2013 12:58 (twelve years ago)