For your consideration - stylus' 2005 singles list

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― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 08:08 (twenty years ago)

yea for fiery furnaces, lcd, dangerdoom

ying yang twinz? they can't even spell their own name phonetically

― Robin Samples (Robin Samples), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 08:21 (twenty years ago)

which is, after all, a crucial point in the enjoyment of music. fuk doz blaks

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 08:26 (twenty years ago)

dangerdoom?

― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 08:27 (twenty years ago)

yeah, on the right side there

― Robin Samples (Robin Samples), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 08:28 (twenty years ago)

why didnt they ask me

― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

There's no Z in the Ying Yang Twins' name, though

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 09:00 (twenty years ago)

Robin, do you own a backpack?

― Amity Wong (noodle vague), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 09:01 (twenty years ago)

It's a nice list so far. Though I suspect Sugababes, Ying Yang, Roll Deep and Franz are too low.

― Amity Wong (noodle vague), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 09:06 (twenty years ago)

hope sven brede places high

― calderdale in the 70s (gareth), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

yea for fiery furnaces, lcd, dangerdoom

wtf, these aren't on the list!?

― one time gaffled 'em up (one time gaffled 'em up), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

also, fiery furnaces are not good

― one time gaffled 'em up (one time gaffled 'em up), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 09:10 (twenty years ago)

they wouldn't let me vote for remixes :(

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 09:19 (twenty years ago)

The comment box is the worst thing to happen to internet media since the pop-up ad.

― 'Twan (miccio), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)

my fave example of the week: If you, my critiquing friend, want to try an analyze baseless pop...

― 'Twan (miccio), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)

Lolz - I was too scared to read the Comments.

― Amity Wong (noodle vague), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

why didnt they ask me

Dude, are you on the staff board? You probably should be. All the details are posted there.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 09:36 (twenty years ago)

the staff board is impossible to find or get into though!

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

they wouldn't let me vote for remixes

What were you going to vote for, Alex? I was going to vote for DFA1979's "Black History Month (Alan Braxe/Fred Falke Remix)" but was discouraged from doing so.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

the staff board is impossible to find or get into though!

I don't even know what this means. It's a website. You register by signing up. After tat, it's easy.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

it didn't work for me the first 3938323 times i tried, so now i don't bother.

remixes i would have voted for - tiga rmx of 'washing up', trentemoller rmx of 'what else is there?', lindstrom rmx of 'tribulations', maybe dj marlboro rmx of 'bucky done gun' - any singles list feels woefully incomplete without them. i like that dfa1979 rmx too.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

ooh you know what the best remix of "bucky done gone" is? and i say this without having heard dj marlboro, or really even knowing who he is. BUT the best remix is by mike barthel! a/k/a eppy. you know: your fellow uk singles jukebox contributor. so good. better than the original.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 09:50 (twenty years ago)

are remixes actually singles, though?

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)

Not really. They're often b-sides of singles.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)

I didn't know that half the things on that list were singles. Animal Collective releasing singles seems pointless, somehow.

― Amity Wong (noodle vague), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 09:53 (twenty years ago)

'singles' are outdated though. i mean, '10 dollar' was never a single but it was undeniably the MIA song of 05. and i've never heard the original 'washing up' played in a club but the tiga rmx was basically this year's 'rocker'.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 09:54 (twenty years ago)

i would have thought, then, that u shdn't vote remixes for singles.

xpost -- exactly, singles are a bit outdated as a form. but they still exist.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)

At least you guys actually have SINGLES, though! More so than here, at least. When I want to find out if something has been released as a single, first place I check is amazon.co.uk.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 09:58 (twenty years ago)

I would like to see a remixes list next year. A remix isn't usually a single (tho it can be), and the way I see it is that voting for 'em in the singles list would split the vote for some of these songs. When you vote for a single, you vote for the individual song as an artifact, which can encompass a physical single, a video, a collection of remixes, whatever, which, admittedly, is only SLIGHTLY less outdated notion than that of a single just being a single but enh.

― edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

My favorite remixes of 2005:

M83 - Don't Save Us From the Flames (Superpitcher Remix)
Mary J. Blige - MVP (remix of "Hate It or Love It")
Futureheads - Decent Days and Nights (Max Tundra Remix)
MIA - Bucky Done Gun (The ClapsNoMeansMaybe Remix)
DFA1979 - Black History Month (Alan Braxe/Fred Falke Remix)
Robyn - Be Mine! (Meatboys Remix)
Spoon - I Turn My Camera On (John McEntire Remix)
Amerie - 1 Thing (Siik Remix)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 10:04 (twenty years ago)

I like your thinking, in that it sort of justifies ignoring the useless piece of shit edit version of the Hawley song.

Top 10 Remixes of 2005 would be a useful Staff Top 10, I think, it seems a shame not acknowledge stuff like the JLC Mr Brightside remix.

(x-post - that's the spirit)

― Michael A Neuman (Ferg), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

I almost mentioned the JLC Mr. Brightside Remix, too!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

yeah the jlc killers remix is definitely a case in point, i wouldn't want to put a vote anywhere near the original but the remix was awesome.

i mean, i see the point that if you don't put some sort of embargo on the list then people would end up voting for ridiculously esoteric and obscure stuff, but some remixes were pretty major defining moments of the year.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 10:11 (twenty years ago)

I like the pictures of the artists peeking at you. It humanizes the list.

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

some remixes were pretty major defining moments of the year.

for serious.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)

OK, I just suggested something...

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

The balance on the photos today is great: Missy on the right, Sway on the left, 2D on the left, Leslie Feist on the right, Lindstrom devours the box, and then the Backstreet Boys pass the torch onto Bloc Party in full-span.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:30 (twenty years ago)

i totally forgot about 'inside and out'! i'm surprised 'incomplete' made it ahead of 'just want you to know'.

'my friend dario' waaaaaay too low.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)

I've not heard:

The Mountain Goats – This Year
Lee Ann Womack – Twenty Years and Two Husbands Ago
Young Jeezy feat. Fat Joe and Jay-Z – Go Crazy
Spoon – I Turn My Camera On
Imogen Heap – Hide and Seek
Helen Love – Debbie Loves Joey
Juelz Santana – Mic Check
Paul Wall feat. Big Pokey – Sittin' Sidewayz
Richard Hawley – The Ocean
Feist – Inside and Out
Lindstrøm – I Feel Space

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)

oh you have have have to hear 'i feel space' stevem, you would love it. 'inside and out' is also great, as is 'hide and seek' (though emphatically not the rest of the imogen heap album).

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

"Inside and Out" is like having the most wonderful pins slid delicately into your flesh for four minutes, it was my single of the year.

I can't see you really going for Helen Love STM. Do you fondly recall their Shed Seven-baiting "Long Live The UK Music Scene" from the mid 90s?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

every time I played it at trendy London night Forget About The Sugar

lol macpherson

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

I probably have heard the Feist and Lindstrom I just can't remember them at all.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)

The Lee Ann Womack is great, pretty much as good a token country song as you could hope to include (though I'd have rathered "That's Why I Hate Pontiacs" or "Fast Cars And Freedom").

― edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)

i was going for the 'completely up myself' angle, dom

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)

oh god i remember helen love. it's profoundly depressing that she still exists.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)

"Why I Hate Pontiacs" just missed my ballot by one place.

And I forgot completely about "Walking With A Ghost" as well, which would have been top 5.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

yes, how the fuck did that get more votes than sugababes?! xp

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:55 (twenty years ago)

Because it's a better song! Plus sugar-fuelled fun plus pathos-fuelled paean to small-town kids being suffocated by not being in the big city = classic.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)

dom it's terrible. your description belongs to the first girls aloud album, not a half-dead britpop leftover trying to crawl through the pop catflap again.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

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:-D :-D :-D

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 December 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

I was of course listening to the Vince Guaraldi album the other day.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 December 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

the 'somebody told me' vs 'mr brightside' debate was amusing. 'somebody told me' is better but both are dreadful plodding indie crap which is reminiscent of shed seven. jlc mix obv excepted.

do the people who like that futureheads cover prefer it to the original?

― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 10 December 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

Note to all internet-magazine dealies: Waiting a day or more to post the entirety of your list is annoying and makes your list look initially worse than it really is. This particular case is a good example of one which appears infinitely less horrendous with the entire top 50 intact.

That said, there is nothing particularly special about "Still Tippin," and there are only 10 seconds of "Hounds Of Love" that are actually worth listening to, which is the section between 2:25 and 2:35.

― billstevejim (billstevejim), Saturday, 10 December 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

I love killing threads.

― billstevejim (billstevejim), Saturday, 10 December 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

You really just poked the corpse with a stick.

― 'Twan (miccio), Saturday, 10 December 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

i never thought i'd say this, but i really am glad i live in a world undefined by gay-ass europop dance mixes and pop-rap'n'b.

― dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 10 December 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

the dj last night was like the stylus list strawman come to life. when the jukebox came back on afterwards it was like a call from the governor.

― dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 10 December 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

(for "stylus" possibly read "fluxblog")

― dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 10 December 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

in a rateyourmusic.com list format:

stylusmagazine.com's top 50 best singles of 2005
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/ijkidd/stylusmagazine_coms_top_50_best_singles_of_2005

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 10 December 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

(for "stylus" possibly read "fluxblog")

Retract that statement before I come to your house and kill you.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 10 December 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

i never thought i'd say this, but i really am glad i live in a world undefined by gay-ass europop dance mixes and pop-rap'n'b.

lol pitchfork amirite?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 10 December 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

This thing of Stylus and Pitchfork both seeming to draw from an ever narrower sphere of influence (cough... ILM) in the music they cover/praise/hype/general taste bias still bothers me a little, I mean obviously it's only something I've become aware of since lurking here for a year+half, but I feel like it's getting slightly worse.

I may be imagining it but I remembered last years singles list actually containing some surprises?

And I still much prefer both sites to many others attempting to cover this ground. But I don't think it's healthy, and could end up looking like a kind of hipsterism no better, despite being circular & self-contained to the writers and this site, than Pfork (or worse, NME) indie-bots slavishly lapping up every next big thing and re-posting to a million livejournals.

― winter is scary (fandango), Saturday, 10 December 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

Still not enough metal.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 December 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

Only because I couldn't totally bring myself to vote for "Typical Me"

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 10 December 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

I will say that the comments box is absolutely hilarious this time round =)

― winter is scary (fandango), Saturday, 10 December 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

It really is the gift that keeps on giving, it puts this thread to fucking shame seven Sundays running. tintin1000 and NastyNasir are on some next level trolling shit, hats off to them.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 10 December 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

Jess do you post about music on ILM these days?

― deej.. (deej..), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

haha yeah when was the last time you said 'this cd is good' huh? Zing!

― 'Twan (miccio), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

You guys should really keep score on yr internet zingers.

― deej.. (deej..), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

not until ILM starts paying me, deej, no.

― dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

It's starting to feel like two years ago all over again.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

Cool. I actually haven't seen much of your paid writing lately - would you care to share some? Or direct me to the publication you write for these days. I'm interested to know what you've been writing about.

― deej.. (deej..), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

no.

― dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

ok.

― deej.. (deej..), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

i dont have much time to write these days, actually.

― dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

outside of work. it occasionally bums me out, but those are the breaks.

― dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

Dude, I'll handle the short list for you! 'love is the drug when my chemical romance plays the Goebbels Auditorium Jan. 7th...'

― 'Twan (miccio), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

I just want a picture of me holding my chin in the upper left corner.

― 'Twan (miccio), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

i would PAY YOU to do so.

― dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

i have actually tried to start making the puns as lame as possible or as inscrutable.

― dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

It's good to see Al getting some stuff up. Speaking of stylus writers worth reading, you employ one of them.

― deej.. (deej..), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

al is graftin hard, and i respect that.

― dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

but the big difference between al and the people pontificating about the cultural signifigance of ashlee behind their blogs is that he's actually out there, trying to make connections, and trying to give some shine to local people who he thinks deserve it. not saying one is necessarily better than the other, but just saying.

― dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

frank kogan doesn't have a blog!

― 'Twan (miccio), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

cue chuck: "my job is not to give local musicians an ego massage, its to waste hours posting to a message board saying that i havent heard william basinski but he may or may not be better than trixter."

― dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

GLASS HOUSES BITCH

― 'Twan (miccio), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

but i have actually heard william basinski and i can honestly say he is better than trixter.

― dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

when did you hear trixter?

― 'Twan (miccio), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

circa 1991.

― dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

Please tell me they were opening for Nelson.

― 'Twan (miccio), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

i bought the cassette because they had ads in d.c. comics!

― dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

:-D

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

trixter was pop metal's waterloo

― gear (gear), Saturday, 10 December 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

haha yeah this thread makes me feel kinda bad about writing for Stylus! I got asked to write for them the same week that City Paper contacted me so I figured what the hell. honestly I think I do a lot of my best writing for Stylus, I guess it's indulgent but I don't really like to write album reviews if I can't go up to a thousand words, squeezing it down for print tends to make me unhappy with the end result.

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