Where is the Love For All These Bands from my "P" CD Shelves Who Don't Get Mentioned Nearly Enough on ILM

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
palestine/coulter/mathoul
the pandoras
panico
the panics
the panoply academy
parchman farm
evan parker electro-acoustic ensemble
william parker & the little huey creative music orchestra
zeena parkins/nels cline/thurston moore
rosy parlane
pastilla
rahsaan patterson
the paybacks
the peelers
peglegasus
p-18
the penetrators
art pepper
percy hill
chris perez
the perfect me
paharaoh overlord
pimp daddy nash
pinataland
pineal ventata
place of skulls
plastiq phantom
point line plane
poobah
"groovey" joe poovery
mary prankster
the preacher's kids
precious metal
pressure drop
julian priester pepo mtoto
propaganda
pscyhotrone rhonedark

(didn't include, though maybe i should have, but probably not: augustus pablo, plastic people of the universe, prince far i, pulnoc)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

evan parker electro-acoustic ensemble
william parker & the little huey creative music orchestra
zeena parkins/nels cline/thurston moore

Did they come as a job lot .... from a journalist from Wire perhaps?

We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

Art Pepper - I was talking about him on Monday night by an old jazzer I know who reckons he's the only white sax player worth a shit (I'd wanted to ask him about Lee Konitz and he pulled a face like he'd just stood on a dogshit)

We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

pharaoh overlord gets some talk on some noisy threads. my friend really loves them - like a hard-psych/neu! combo, at least recently, right?

parchman farm is pretty boring - blue cheer worshippers, with this dude who reminds me of constantine from american idol as lead singer. i mean, entertaining for that reason, but i dont think id check out their record.

mary prankster is a baltimore institution, but i dont think ive ever actually HEARD her music...

petesmith (plsmith), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Parchman Farm: Entertaining for an EP. Doubt I could deal with a whole album though. If they're smart, they won't make one (unless they already did, and were just smart enough not to send it to me).

Mary Prankster: Her/their live album is fun. (I guess "her", or else I would have filed them/her in the M's instead of the P's.)

"Groovey" Joe Poovery: Actually spelled "Poovey."

xhuxk, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

Rosy Parlane is ex-Thela. His new stuff is Fennesz/Oren Ambarchi style drift/fuzz. Supposed to be alright.

Pressure Drop was some old Ninja Tune type thing, no?

Mestema (davidcorp), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

Panico: really fun electro-punk, or anyway hotwired joyrides. Paybacks: first album excellent, like early Beatles having a mashup in the junkyard with relatives of AC/DC who got so drunk they forgot to move to Orrstrailmix. Haven't heard most recent. Art Pepper: pick hit:Straight Life(album and autobio too: "getting straight"="getting loaded" in oldtime junkie). Hard but tuneful bop. (Lee Konitz is great too: that's the xpost classic/cliche bullshit distinction that old jazz fan made; you're lucky he didn't get pissed at you for daring to mention somebody he'd banned from his fantasy lineup.)Percy Hill: jamband, now deceased, I think; Gehr wrote a fab review in Voice; I still haven't heard 'em, but love his vision of their vision (He mentioned that most jambands, incl the ones he loved, weren't/aren't so hot on disc, but they were the great exception, apparently.)Chris Perez: Selena's widower; his Resurrection(album) is Cinemascope Rock En Espanol catharsis; made my P&J. August Pablo's Far East Sound some kind of ancestor of post-"Get Your Freak On" East/West Indies usages? Plastic People, Pulnoc: still great lurching post-Velvets-skronk-Prague-proogie beasts-breasts of the never-to-be-erased-errata-and-strata.

don, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

Poobah - Steamroller - '79 hard rock/psych from (I think) Cincinnati with some nice guitar wanking from leader Jim Gustafson. Like Terry Brooks & Strange but with much better songwriting. Plus he incorporates "Pipeline" and "Peter Gunn" into one extended track, which is a good thing (& in keeping with the letter "P" theme.) Reviewed in the Voice by either George or Xhuxk (can't remember which, sorry.)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

Hard but tuneful bop

Yep, that sounds like Les' kinda thing (Les, the old school jazzer)

We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

the palestine/coulter/mathoul record is shortened reworked versions of three long charlemagne palestine pieces. it works a lot better than you'd expect and is a great place to start with palestine or drone/minimalism in general. really really good.

dan (dan), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that's a great book, Straight Life. The two albums Art made with the (Miles Davis) Rhythm Section are pretty good- he claims he hadn't touched his horn for several months before the first recording, but I think this is a bit of an exaggeration.

No need to treat Konitz so disparingLee, but yeah I guess there was probably an oldtime school of thought that the Tristanoites were a bunch of nerds. Which they may in fact have been, but who on this board can cast a stone at that?

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

I'm surprised William Parker doesn't get discussed around here more, if, in fact, he doesn't.

Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

>Pressure Drop was some old Ninja Tune type thing, no? <

Not technically, I don't think:

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:5y67mpvg9f5o

I don't buy the Massive Attack comparison there, though. To my ears, Pressure Drop attack more massively than Massive Attack ever did.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

Back in the day when AMG reviews were no more than four sentences.

Binjominia (Brilhante), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

Pressure Drop: not only more massive than MA, but also more leftfield, and much more consistent, than Leftfield, to whose label they were signed. Elusive is an outstanding album and has held up well. still sounds great.

loxmyth (echoinggrove), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

And more underworld than Underworld, too! And trickier than Tricky!

xhuxk, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

Propaganda: if this is the German synthpop band, I will happily wave the flag for them. Recently played A Secret Wish for a friend of mine who was knocked out, and doubly so when I told her it was 20 years old. In high school, I used to play "p:Machinery" after I came home from school EVERY DAY. Through headphones. At high volume.

The "p:Machinery (Beta)" remix (w/ I think Steve Howe!) is really good too.

There's also 1234, the album they made after both Claudia Brücken and Susanne Freytag left and some American wannabe-soul singer joined; several songs co-written or at least song-doctored by Howard Jones; not great, but considerably better than you'd think, esp. "Heaven Give Me Words."

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

Paybacks: first album excellent, like early Beatles having a mashup in the junkyard
I was hoping they were a James Brown spinoff.

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

Yep. that Propaganda. For years I've loved "Dr. Mabuse," or whatever it's called, but knew it (and knew them) only from some Italodisco DJ mix I have on vinyl from the late '80s or so; saw *1234* on St Marks last month, bought it for $3, and liked it a lot. Sounds like I might like *A Secret Wish* even more though, the way Douglas describes it.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

Precious Metal -- all girl hard rock band from LA. First album was best with song "Right Here, Right Now." Made a few others, mostly fair to good. Saw them open for Extreme at the Cat Club, a real headache of a show. (Metal band doing "Play that funky music, white boy" -- ughhh. Gary Cherone and pretty boy shredder = vile.) I don't think PM enjoyed the trip much, either. Didn't get the same breaks as Vixen and hated hearing the named mentioned in polite company. Their catalog has never been adequately reissued.

Place of Skulls -- stoner metal-associated band led by Victor Griffin who used to play guitar in Pentagram. And that puts them in the Pentagram space sonically, the latter of which, alphabetically, seem not to be here.

Pandoras -- inept garage-rocking girls who grew into the job over the course of a couple records, two which are now reissued on Rhino. Their fickle fans seemed to abandom them as they got better, acusing them of going metal. One guitar player became the leader of The Muffs, the other died.

George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

The Paybacks are one of the best live bands you'll ever see, though one of the few Detroit bands that really seems to do better the bigger the venue. I've seen 'em countless times at the Pig, where they can be solid, but once they get on the Magic Stick (or Bag) stage, they open up into this amazing classic/arena rock sound. Can't speak so much for the albums— though Wendy Case used to work for our magazine, she never sent promos and the copies that Editorial bought were stolen by the publisher (far as I know).

And you're sure that William Parker doesn't get love around here? Weird. He's phenomenal.

js (honestengine), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

I'm pretty sure the six-song EP I heard by the Pandoras was late-period stuff; I seem to recall the cover being a shot of female hands playing a guitar, the girl in question wearing a black miniskirt and fishnets. I think I liked it better than the six-song L7 EP I heard at roughly the same time, too.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

William Parker's great, but the Little Huey CDs are mostly slogs, except for Raincoat In The River, on Eremite. Their stuff is best experienced live.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

Panico Has Their Thread.

On the 2005 NME Yearbook a lot of artists and people from the "Industry" name some Panico's songs among their 2005 faves.

elgolfo (elgolfo), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

well-deserved. The Paybacks I have is Knock Loud.Pandoras, Precious Metal: Rhino should do a comp of West Coast all-female bands. And maybe of some of those current all-female tribute bands, like Les (Lez?) Zepplin. (Spin did a feature about several, without mentioning much about how the music might sound.)

don, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

But Don, weren't the Spin ones (Lez Zep etc) just tribute bands? Or am I confusing two different features? At any rate, a compilation of great '80s lady-led hard rock would be a great idea, I agree w/ that.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

rahsaan patterson

holy shit. easily the best neosoul album from 2004. how'd this go ignored?

Rashaan Patterson's "So Hot" is the best song I've heard this year (shame about the typo)

my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

And maybe of some of those current all-female tribute bands, like Les (Lez?) Zepplin. (Spin did a feature about several, without mentioning much about how the music might sound.)

Cheap Chick, a name I've always loved. Their photos are pretty boss, too. Never have had the pleasure to hear a record by them, though. It was said they recorded at least a single.

Rhino could start such a comp with Fanny and make it available IN STORES (what a concept, as opposed to having to shell out on the Internet before seeing how they may or may not have mucked things up). If one wanted to make Fanny more obscure, Rhino couldn't have done a better job. I don't get it. Idiots! All four Jo Jo Gunne Rhino Handmades are sent to Wounded Bird for general release. All Cactus is sent to general release. NO FANNY! In the meantime, I rebought the vinyl.


George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

evan parker electro-acoustic ensemble
william parker & the little huey creative music orchestra
zeena parkins/nels cline/thurston moore

I would think all of these kids get enough play on ILM individually, although perhaps not in those precise configurations...

Myke Weiskopf (Myke Weiskopf), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 23:34 (twenty years ago)

There's also 1234, the album they made after both Claudia Brücken and Susanne Freytag left and some American wannabe-soul singer joined

The original Propaganda line-up reformed for the Trevor Horn anniversary extravaganza in London last year, and put on a pretty damn good show, from what I hear. (They did "Dr. Mabuse.")

Meanwhile, a new, cheap-ass version of the band (just Susanne Freytag and Michael Mertens) is signed to Amontillado.

Myke Weiskopf (Myke Weiskopf), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 23:40 (twenty years ago)

pilot rase

Robin Samples (Robin Samples), Thursday, 8 December 2005 09:18 (twenty years ago)

also - the best propaganda album is the recent ZTT compilation which put all the 12" remixes and suchlike together .. 'outside world'

http://ztt.freshdigital.co.uk/bandsite/tssite/homepage.do?ruleset=album&id=8246

tis fantastic stuff if you like the Dr Mabuse 12" (one of the best 12" ever in my opinion)


mark e (mark e), Thursday, 8 December 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)

Pandoras -- inept garage-rocking girls who grew into the job over the course of a couple records, two which are now reissued on Rhino. Their fickle fans seemed to abandom them as they got better, acusing them of going metal. One guitar player became the leader of The Muffs, the other died.

the muffs' debut album is a punk-pop masterpiece which itself doesn't get mentioned nearly enough on ILM, but it's an M album so this is probably the wrong thread to discuss that.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

xpost yeah xxhuxx I noted that they were tribute bands, but can't they have a Rhino comp? It couldn't be worse than some of their other shit. (Well maybe a little, but not too much). Wasn't a member of the Muffs also in that all-girl band I so wanted to win VH-1's Bands On The Run? That was a competition of generics, and they were myne. (Scruffy, contrary, erratic in your attic: BEBE THAT'S ROCKUNDWHOAYuh) The only music they had for sale then was a CD-R single, offered minus case, send CASH ONLY to some apt.Nein danke, leibchen. xpost Robin, who's pilot rabe?

don, Thursday, 8 December 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

i think it's cause they make CDs.

corey c (shock of daylight), Friday, 9 December 2005 07:51 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

revive

skogsturken, Thursday, 25 March 2010 02:55 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUxADCsPV8s

revive, Thursday, 25 March 2010 05:02 (sixteen years ago)


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.