TS: Aldo Nova's "Fantasy" vs. Jefferson Starship's "Jane"

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Definitely "Fantasy", and I predict it will kick JS' ass, but hey maybe I'll be surprised.

Great video, too--the helicopter, Nova protected by sunglassed bodyguards, guitar ray blast and then...the riff + quasi-Gene Simmons tongue-wagging. Let's face it--it's hard to beat that.

Joe (Joe), Thursday, 8 December 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

Same keyboard line.

I gotta go with Aldo, if only for the guitar ray blast. But ever notice how his Uzi-toting guard doesn't really try to knock down that door at all? He's just tappin' the thing.

"Jane" is great too, though (but probably not as good as "Find Your Way Back").

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 8 December 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

Gotta be "Fantasy," in large part because you don't have to hear Mickey Thomas screech. And because the lyrics are more hilariously genius in a decadent '80s way. Jane's "playin' a game," but "Fantasy" extols the virtue of "powder pleasure in your nose tonight."

mike a, Thursday, 8 December 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

I saw David Freiberg sing "Jane" at a Jefferson Starship concert a few months ago. (Mickey's persona non grata at the band's shows.) 60-odd years old, and damn if he didn't hit every single screeching note. I was amazed.

And "Jane" came before "Fantasy," so give it that.

Joe McCombs, Thursday, 8 December 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

Aldo Nova

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 8 December 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm, neither one is very good. My first instinct is to say "Jane" (since it got there first), but Mickey Thomas' histrionics (and that inexplicably annoying second "Cat and a mouse") tip the scales in favour of Aldo. I think Loverboy had a hit around the same time with that same keyboard line recycled yet again.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)

Aldo Nova - mainly cause his name was so cool at the time

Life is just a fantasy....

What a poet.

hector (hector), Friday, 9 December 2005 00:35 (twenty years ago)

I'll take Jane. The amazingly cheesy disco break seals it for me.

General Doinel (Charles McCain), Friday, 9 December 2005 00:40 (twenty years ago)

Aldo Nova by a long shot.

The cool thing was the quadrophonic sound version of "Fantasy, which they played incessantly at the "teen night" bar I went to. At the beginning of the song, it's that helicopter noise and the club would play the song on the quadro hi-fi and DUDE WE HAD LIFTOFF.

don weiner (don weiner), Friday, 9 December 2005 01:20 (twenty years ago)

Bahahaha

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 9 December 2005 01:27 (twenty years ago)

Aldo then...

http://www.vh1.com/shared/media/images/sn_legacy/addict/AMG_images/artists/P06219.JPG


Aldo.....today

http://www.songwriteruniverse.com/aldo.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 9 December 2005 01:29 (twenty years ago)

songs (and threads) like this are what P2P are made for, right?

don weiner (don weiner), Friday, 9 December 2005 01:30 (twenty years ago)

Never made the 'Jane' -> 'Fantasy' link before, so well spotted. As I noted on another thread awhile back, 'Fantasy' and Bryan Adams' 'Run to You' have never been photographed together.

Jeff Wright (JeffW1858), Friday, 9 December 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)

Re: Aldo then vs. now:

The circle is complete.

Joe (Joe), Friday, 9 December 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

ALDO

Russell (Russell), Saturday, 10 December 2005 01:02 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

"Life is just a fantasy / are you ready for this fantasy life!!"

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 3 May 2010 01:20 (sixteen years ago)

Beeh neeeh neeeh neeeh

kornrulez6969, Monday, 3 May 2010 01:34 (sixteen years ago)

"Jane, you're playing a game/playing a game/playing a GAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEE

yeah yeah yeah"

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 3 May 2010 01:38 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GylirgHFqeQ

EZ Snappin, Monday, 3 May 2010 01:40 (sixteen years ago)

I'm surprised by the consensus here. "Jane" isn't as good as Red Octopus-era JS but I do actually think it's really good punchy AOR with powerful singing.

Sundar, Monday, 3 May 2010 01:58 (sixteen years ago)

I heard "Jane" at the Eagle on jockstrap night last weekend in Manhattan and it really punched in the decadent leatherbar vibe perfectly. Just sayin'

twice boiled cabbage is death, Monday, 3 May 2010 02:07 (sixteen years ago)

i like jane a lot. and i kind of hate the band.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 3 May 2010 02:28 (sixteen years ago)

I'm enjoying "Fantasy" way more than any sane individual has a right to right now.

Alex in NYC, Monday, 3 May 2010 02:45 (sixteen years ago)

Oh dear....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok6eIPx5S3U

Alex in NYC, Monday, 3 May 2010 02:46 (sixteen years ago)

so, so much wrong in that video.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 3 May 2010 02:53 (sixteen years ago)

I don't find it at all far-fetched that they were in that glowing ball of evil from Heavy Metal, as this video seems to imply.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 3 May 2010 03:21 (sixteen years ago)

ten months pass...

If I wouldn't've thought that, at first blush, that the incendiary ballast of the post three places up was actually a post-disco submission including a gothed-out Tommy Shaw-ed Styx, I might've considered the Starship to something more equitable than boar-hogged teets. The only problem I have with Aldo is that he reverted to help from from J. B.Jovi when his career tanked. And, that kinda bothers me too, you know?

suspecterrain, Saturday, 12 March 2011 03:06 (fifteen years ago)

six months pass...

Find your way back is probably starship's best song. Also that Aldo video was crazy - the leopard suit, the tongue and hair flip, the hookers...

public static Session currentSession (John Lennon), Sunday, 25 September 2011 00:39 (fourteen years ago)

I've actually got a play list of tunes from the same period as Aldo Nova's "Fantasy" that have that big spacy sometimes synthy intro that kicks in with some big arena rock. I need to add Jane to that list, as I think it would sonically fit.

Joe Walsh- The Confessor
Red Rider- Lunatic Fringe
Billy Squier- All Night Long
Billy Thorpe – Children of the Sun
Zebra- Who’s Behind the Door
Robert Plant- Big Log
David Gilmour- Murder
The Police- Secret Journey
Rush- Distant Early Warning
The Who- Eminence Front
Loverboy- When It’s Over
Billy Idol- Eyes Without a Face

A couple of songs I have in that list that are not really of the same era as they were a few years later, but I think sonically fit with this stuff are "The Kiss" by the Cure and "Under the Milky Way" by the Church.

earlnash, Sunday, 25 September 2011 01:38 (fourteen years ago)


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