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I'm happily sitting in my house, listening to "Strangers Die Everyday" by the Butthole Surfers. It's cool. I think it's Psychedelic Punk music.
This is a very exciting concept for me. Can anyone please hit me up with any more psychedelic punk stuff? Or am I just like, being a tard?

― Debord (Debord), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 08:42 (twenty years ago)

this thread has probably been done before? anyway, search for the chrome alien soundtracks / half machine lip moves two-fer!

― electrogrouse (haitch), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 09:30 (twenty years ago)

I don't think this thread has been done before - I did a search - sorry if it has - I would love to see it.
I have that Chrome though. Sob!
More more!

― Debord (Debord), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 10:31 (twenty years ago)

leaf yard!!!

― baby, disco is fuck (yournullfame), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 12:33 (twenty years ago)

Try Cardiacs. www.cardiacs.com

― Dr Greyhound (Dr Greyhound), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 12:41 (twenty years ago)

Vagtazo Halottkemek

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 12:59 (twenty years ago)

(Somewhere on that site is an article entitled 'Attila Grandpierre: Punk As a Rebirth of Shamanist Folk Music (The Magic Forces of Art at Work)' if you need to see their credentials.)

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 13:02 (twenty years ago)

believe it or not, Throbbing Gristle

― senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 13:04 (twenty years ago)

I don't believe it.

TG is industrial, repetitive, grimy, grey, depressing.

Psychedelic is colorful, playful, varied, uplifting.

― Bob Six (bobbysix), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 13:11 (twenty years ago)

Oh I believe the Gristle. I Believe.
In the context of the Butthole Surfers "Strangers Die Every Day" anyway.
But Gristle are a bit DARK.
I hate to say this but - anything a bit more mainstream.
My mainstream I mean Throbbing Gristle / Butthole Surfers level of fame?
Although this guy: Vagtazo Halottkemek looks like WIG OUT CENTRAL!!!
Cool.
Actually, I don't really care how mainstream it is. I'm just going to go off and trip out watching Repo Man and hope that there's more stuff here when I get back.

― Debord (Debord), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 13:13 (twenty years ago)

Neu 75

― senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 13:15 (twenty years ago)

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My own emprical research over many years is that any band (or author for that matter) that compulsively name-drops William Burroughs is invariably crap.

― Bob Six (bobbysix), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 13:16 (twenty years ago)

heres a very mainstream track
http://webzoom.freewebs.com/thebunnybrains/Kindly%20tell%20me%20to%20get%20off%20this%20airplane%28I%20dare%20you%29.mp3

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 13:18 (twenty years ago)

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000005IU1.01.LZZZZZZZ

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 13:22 (twenty years ago)

Desperate Bicycles' "The Medium was Tedium" could have been on Nuggets, and there is a lot of music that sounds like that out there if you look - but not sure that's the kind of psych you're talking about

― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 13:24 (twenty years ago)

Oh I've Stooged out many a time.
DIRT! And that wierd long one with the chanting. That's cool too.
I agree on the Neu too. I like that already...

― Debord (Debord), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 13:31 (twenty years ago)

Am I right in thinking that there was some sort of cross-pollination between the likes of Hawkwind and the Damned in the 70s?

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 13:36 (twenty years ago)

How about Bong Water?

― ratty, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:02 (twenty years ago)

TG is industrial, repetitive, grimy, grey, depressing

You couldn't be any wronger if you were President Wrong of the People's Republic of Wrong.

― I'm thinking six, six, six (noodle vague), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:04 (twenty years ago)

Soft Boys?

― A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:05 (twenty years ago)

DEBRIS! fuck.

― Ghost Bear Junior High Attendance Party (echoinggrove), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:10 (twenty years ago)

there was a long thread where the person ONLY wanted to hear psych that sounded like the butthole surfers, but i can't remember what it was. they were very particular about it.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:10 (twenty years ago)

ah, here it is:

Crazy Psychedelia (Helios Creed, Butthole Surfers and...?)

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:12 (twenty years ago)

Swell Maps 2nd album is Can-like in places.

― mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:14 (twenty years ago)

hahaha, that thread was funny:

"To all the people who said Bunnybrains:

Yeah, this is close to some of the Butthole Surfers sounds except for one thing: the songs suck, the production sucks and, over all the discs, the plan seems to be one riff that goes nowhere with monotonous singing over it or else pointless noise with spoken word skits and samples. This is really quite terrible. And not terrible in a way that makes it interesting."

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:16 (twenty years ago)

skot yur always pouring salt on my wounds...hhahaha..yeh he wzz very particular..needed stupid sound production and stuff..

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:35 (twenty years ago)

i can't remember if he was the very specific kyuss fan or not. "no, no, it should sound a little like kyuss, but nothing like kyuss, and it should sound like stoner rock, but don't recommend anything i've already heard and make it good." whatever you say, master. sheesh. kinda makes you wish you went to college and had a job where you could just pay people to recommend stoner rock to idiots on the internet, you know?

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:46 (twenty years ago)

Wire's Chair's Missing and 154 surely qualify.

― Jeff K (jeff k), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:47 (twenty years ago)

since when is psych always all pretty rainbows and unicorns?

― bb (bbrz), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:51 (twenty years ago)

it wasn't when i was 16 and on acid cuz all i listened to was swans, sonic youth, scratch acid, die kreuzen, butthole surfers and live skull. all great psychedelic punk bands in their day.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:56 (twenty years ago)

Pete Shelley and Steve Diggle were heavily into acid while recording A Different Kind of Tension and it shows, especially on the last few songs.

― Jeff K (jeff k), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 15:14 (twenty years ago)

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/thebunnybrains/42%20%2D%20Track%2042.mp3
skot heres yur high quality 1991 live track w great production especially in th first 16 seconds

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 15:18 (twenty years ago)

Monoshock!
Comets on Fire!

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 15:24 (twenty years ago)

hahahahahahahahahahahah------suckerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
-- dan bunnybrain (bunnybrai...), July 12th, 2005.

I wouldn't get too excited. I didn't actually buy your stinkin' CD. I listened to it at Virgin. You know, that sound scan thing actually has long samples of every single track on that box set! You might want to rethink that! If I had only heard a few songs and some of them seemed alright, I might have bought it. But, I kept listening and I kept hearing shit. I listened to every single one and I'm not sure if they were really long samples or if they just seemed really long because the music was so annoying, but it was bad enough that I didn't even buy the box when I saw it on sale used for $10.99. I would probably buy it for $5.99 just to watch the DVD and see what the hell was up with you guys.

How come when you got a decent groove going, you were satisfied with just the one? Psychedelic music isn't supposed to be a punishment, even if it is grating and hellish.

-- Goodbye Brain (dontcallm...), July 13th, 2005.

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 15:25 (twenty years ago)

this guy http://mymwly.blogspot.com/
has some great acidpunk

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 15:26 (twenty years ago)

Flaming Lips' first couple albums. F'r reals.

― js (honestengine), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 15:28 (twenty years ago)

Meat Puppets II
The Tea Set

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 15:49 (twenty years ago)

Cramps

― senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 15:57 (twenty years ago)

Twinkeyz

― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 16:16 (twenty years ago)

and Red Kross Born Innocent

― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 16:17 (twenty years ago)

sun city girls, particularly early era. ie - 'horse cock phepner'.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 16:25 (twenty years ago)

Some of Thinking Fellers Union Local 282 might qualify.

Also: obligatory Boredoms reference.

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 16:32 (twenty years ago)

Stir OTM!

Also, although not in Butthole camp, I say Husker Du is psych punk.

― sleeve (sleeve), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 16:36 (twenty years ago)

theres those early dinosaur jr record, too...might be pushing it, mind...theres a reallt obvious example which i just can't get my head to

― bb (bbrz), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 16:43 (twenty years ago)

senseiDancer - Neu 75! Wow, I forgot how damn punk that record was until I pulled it out a few months back. Amazing - I guess PiL and Suicide heard this one...?

How about Simply Saucer?

― Rombald, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 17:46 (twenty years ago)

Also - Pere Ubu's Modern Dance. That's gotta be psychdelic punk, ja?

― Rombald, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 17:48 (twenty years ago)

Good call on Simply Saucer.

Speaking of proto-punk-psychedelic bands, how about Rocket From the Tombs?

― Jeff K (jeff k), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 17:51 (twenty years ago)

and yes, The Modern Dance.

― Jeff K (jeff k), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 17:51 (twenty years ago)

I think Dub Housing and (especially) The Art of Walking are even more psychadelic.

― James, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 17:52 (twenty years ago)

I'd try early Black Dice. Also, Gang Wizard's 'Jeckyll..' LP.

― trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 18:04 (twenty years ago)

maybe early Dead C, when they were still (marginally) a punk band.
and how about High Rise?

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 18:11 (twenty years ago)

Blue Cheer? Deviants? The entire artist rosters (practically!) of SST and Touch & Go and International Artists?

Lots more confluence between the two camps than would have been apparent 25 years ago...

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 18:41 (twenty years ago)

Amon Duul!!!!!!!!!!

― Rotatey Diskers With Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 18:50 (twenty years ago)

The Godz!!!!!!!!!!!

― Rotatey Diskers With Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 18:51 (twenty years ago)

crass?

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 18:52 (twenty years ago)

If we're going all the way back to the 60's then I'll have to mention the 13th Floor Elevators.

― Jeff K (jeff k), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 18:53 (twenty years ago)

Yes, but that 60s punk, The Godz are more like 70s punk because of their total inability to play

― Rotatey Diskers With Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 18:54 (twenty years ago)

if we're goin to the sixties..
the seeds
the eyes
fugs

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 18:56 (twenty years ago)

Love, Seven and Seven Is
Can, Outside My Door
Amon Duul II, Archangels Thunderbird

― Rotatey Diskers With Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 18:57 (twenty years ago)

del-vetts
third bardo
standells
etc
etc
etc

nuggets to thread, i guess.

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 18:58 (twenty years ago)

I think we're straying from the Butthole Surfers.

― Jeff K (jeff k), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:00 (twenty years ago)

Not with the Godz and Amon Duul we're not

― Rotatey Diskers With Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:05 (twenty years ago)

I agree with you about the Godz and Amon Duul.

― Jeff K (jeff k), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:07 (twenty years ago)

Les Rallizes Denudes, Cravats, Very Things,

-and a fair bit of the MC5, 'looking at you' particularly.

― Soukesian, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:00 (twenty years ago)

Would mentioning the Stranglers be stretching the boundaries of what would be considered psyh-punk?

― Jeff K (jeff k), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:03 (twenty years ago)

i was actually thinking about that. In the sense that The Doors were "psychedelic", and all their baroque-influenced keyboard flourishes...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 21:07 (twenty years ago)

meat puppets II has been mentioned, but their first album/single are much closer to the butthole surfers. also whenever i listen to dc's no trend i think of the buttholes. the crucifucks are often put in with these bands.

there's also a comp of all wierd texas punk w/ the butthole surfers and really red but the name escapes me right now.

also mark arm's first band mr. epp & the calculators and mudhoney too in a way.

― Ben H (Ben H), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 22:55 (twenty years ago)

oh, and it's been hinted at, but there was a big link between mid-70s uk anarcho/free-festival psych (gong/hawkwind/here&now/henry cow) and uk squat/diy scene (fuck-off/deleted records/etc.)

alternative tv had a split lp w/ the here & now who also had a split w/ gong who were a splinter off mk 1 soft machine. a dude from here & now ran fuck off too (i think).

so all those bands could be called psychedelic punk (family fodder, danny & the dressmakers, the homosexuals, 012) but definitely sound nothing like the butthole surfers. yr probably looking more for the dean's classic pig fuck bands (sonic youth, dino jr., pussy galore, etc.)

― Ben H (Ben H), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 23:08 (twenty years ago)

following on on the uk anarcho / free - festival psych, here and now and planet gong's 'live floating anarchy '77' would probably fit the bill too. going back a little further, hawkwind's mighty 'space ritual' might appeal to you too.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 23:15 (twenty years ago)

Joe Pop-O-Pie?

― ratty, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 23:22 (twenty years ago)

'Space Ritual' is essential. I'm sure the Buttholes must rate it, and it's a Stoner touchstone.

If they'd happened to be German, they'd have had several Wire magazine covers by now.

― Soukesian, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 23:24 (twenty years ago)

If they'd happened to be German, they'd have had several Wire magazine covers by now.

ain't that the truth!

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 23:28 (twenty years ago)

i always feel like a dolt talking up this band so much, but fuck all those early hawkwind albums are awesome. space ritual, hall of the mountain grill, in search of space (haven't heard doremi fasola itdo -or whatever it's called) and even the first s/t hawkwind zoo album. and the artwork is great.

i guess that makes motorhead the perennial psych/punk band, no?

― Ben H (Ben H), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 23:37 (twenty years ago)

doremi fasol latido rules as well - it's definitely in their top 3 best.

'motorhead', 'overkill' and 'bomber' are all essential too. motorhead's original 7" of 'leaving here' is surely a psych/punk classic.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 23:41 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of Wire and all things German, Faust could fall under the category of psychedelic punk. They were doing the same stuff the Butthole Surfers were doing only a decade earlier.

― Jeff K (jeff k), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 23:54 (twenty years ago)

Why haven't Debris been mentioned yet?!

― Christopher Costello (CGC), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 00:10 (twenty years ago)

They have!

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 00:17 (twenty years ago)

The Damned - Machine Gun Etiquette

― Ben Dot (1977), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 01:01 (twenty years ago)

The Pop Group?

― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 01:21 (twenty years ago)

The Pop Group were psychedelic-dub-free jazz-funk-anarcho-beatnik-punk.

― Jeff K (jeff k), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 01:25 (twenty years ago)

The Pop Group were psychedelic-dub-free jazz-funk-anarcho-beatnik-punk.

And therefore the coolest fucking band ever.

― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 01:26 (twenty years ago)

Cravats/Very Things are so, so OTM. Great records, The Cravats more punk and the Very Things more psych (the same band, if you don't know).

― sleeve (sleeve), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 04:43 (twenty years ago)

Machine Gun Etiquette - of course, and the Black album too. There's also the Naz Nomad side project.

Disappointed to see there's no Cravat's/TVT material on YouTube. I know TVT did a number of fairly elaborate filmed vids, and various Cravats sleeves look like stills from video clips, with the band in costume.

― Soukesian, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 08:17 (twenty years ago)

Billy Bragg - Strange Things Happen (Alternate Version) from the new Life's A Riot bonus disc.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 08:52 (twenty years ago)

This thread is great.

― Debord (Debord), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 09:08 (twenty years ago)

eight years pass...

One of my favourite recent discoveries is The Astronauts. They've been going for 30 or so years and released countless great & often very weird songs.

The following's quite a new one, complicated by the fact they changed their name to The Otters for a bit, but it's absolutely monumental IMO, the gentrified, narcissistic, surprisingly violent death of British culture imagined as a decadent end-of-the-world houseparty:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK4SIufZELo

There's much, much more.

Any fans out there?

― imago, Monday, 28 April 2014 13:27 (twelve years ago)

Hey, these guys are pretty good! Do they have a career anthology or best-of?

― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 28 April 2014 16:01 (twelve years ago)

Yes - I discovered them after one of their members, a poster on another board I frequent, linked some of their songs - I loved them instantly - so he sent their Urban Planning compilation, which is brilliant and made me an instant fan. I dunno where you can find it - it might be on Spotify, but I'm on my phone so can't check. I might do some YouTube linking later. Or you could buy Urban Planning!

― imago, Monday, 28 April 2014 16:40 (twelve years ago)

I'd buy it if I could find it for sale! I sent them a message via Soundcloud.

― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 28 April 2014 18:49 (twelve years ago)

The Astronauts are quite an intriguing band, but not one I've really listened to very much. I saw them live a few years ago, with Zounds, but the main thing I remember about that gig was the bizarre inclusion of Babyshambles as surprise headliner, so the crowd was a mix of grizzled old punx and teens waiting for Doherty to turn up.

Now is a good time to be getting into the Astronauts though, their records were quite hard to find but several have been reissued recently.

Quite surprised this thread got this far with no mention of Inner City Unit.

― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 28 April 2014 19:48 (twelve years ago)

A few key Astronauts numbers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQlselvaRJ0

^^^again, recent. Absolutely enormous; probably the best intersection of Floydian spacerock and punk I've ever heard. (It sorta borrows its chord progression from Gilmour's The Narrow Way Part 3, but does incredible things with it)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR20pZ7wQi4

^^^some extremely agreeable lyrics here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpJXleilMjM

^^^bringing the surrealist prog-folk-punk early in their career. astonishing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lywxH68ZoHA

^^^ft. lol coxhill on the fucking animal chaos of desperation (think you'll all like this one quite a considerable lot)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgJ374CmRns

^^^as haunting an elegy to england's squeezed middle as any I've heard

― imago, Monday, 28 April 2014 22:33 (twelve years ago)

five years pass...

there's a new astronauts album!!!!

https://anthraxuk.bandcamp.com/album/its-got-a-garden

will check it out in the morning :)

― imago, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 00:17 (six years ago)

four months pass...

^^^it was great

this, from the Melissa's Party (aka The Otters) era, is up there, pound for pound, with any Astronauts release (except maybe the debut)

https://theastronautsband.bandcamp.com/album/unreleased-ep

― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Sunday, 15 March 2020 13:00 (six years ago)

I just saw a psych-punk band called Slump from Richmond, VA at a local bar. They reminded me of early Comets on Fire and Destruction Unit. Heavy, sludgy jams with echoed vocals and Dik Mik synths. They were killer and their album is real cool, too: https://slumpva.bandcamp.com/album/flashbacks-from-black-dust-country

No one mentioned Afllicted Man in the course of 14 years?

― InternationalWaters, Sunday, 15 March 2020 13:35 (six years ago)

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