Ciccone Youth's The Whitey Album: C or D?

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It's just been reissued. I liked Into the Groovey and Addicted to Love and they name-dropped Neu! before it was fashionable. Other than that, I don't remember much else about this record.

Worth a re-visit?

Jeff K (jeff k), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 18:50 (twenty years ago)

yes.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 18:50 (twenty years ago)

entirely

bb (bbrz), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 18:51 (twenty years ago)

wish I still had this one. it actually made me like madonna more.

more than none.

p.j. (Henry), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 18:52 (twenty years ago)

yes semi-classic

gritty sanskrit (sanskrit), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 18:55 (twenty years ago)

more than none.

haha. me too. Loved Watt's singing on 'Burnin Up'

Dave NSFW (dave225.3), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 18:57 (twenty years ago)

some nice gritty, junty tape stuff from lee too.

my copy was usurped by an old girlfriend of sorts, so i may have to go buy one.

bb (bbrz), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:45 (twenty years ago)

my fave youth rec

senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:03 (twenty years ago)

Classic for sure! This record is fab. My fave Youth rec too.

Jean Tully de Molinaire (Jean Tully de Molinaire), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:00 (twenty years ago)

Some really good stuff on this one (other than the covers).

sleeve (sleeve), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:03 (twenty years ago)

c!

ai lien (kold_krush), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:10 (twenty years ago)

this should be reissued on a memorex c90 tape with a mix of killdozer, redd kross, and (insert random local band that just issued one seven inch) songs

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:56 (twenty years ago)

i have a shoebox full of similar reissues in a closet somewhere

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:57 (twenty years ago)

C

blunt (blunt), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 22:02 (twenty years ago)

Favorite Youth record?! Over Bad Moon Rising or Evol?

Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 22:29 (twenty years ago)

They should have stuck with their original plan and released a straight-up cover of The White Album.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 22:34 (twenty years ago)

classic if for MacBeth+MacBeth remix by themselves...

eedd, Thursday, 16 March 2006 11:53 (twenty years ago)

Jeff, I know it sounds like a boutade but I can't help it. I love this record over my own life!

Jean Tully de Molinaire (Jean Tully de Molinaire), Thursday, 16 March 2006 19:27 (twenty years ago)

ibt's grebt.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 16 March 2006 19:29 (twenty years ago)

(the second SY i ever bought, after daydream nation, because i found it cheap somewhere. i may have actually listened to it more than daydream nation.)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 16 March 2006 19:30 (twenty years ago)

That silent song is just so silent. Nobody does silence like Sonic Youth. Even better than John Cage silence!

Freud Junior (Freud Junior), Thursday, 16 March 2006 20:17 (twenty years ago)

the silence really confused me when I put the tape in the car stereo just after I'd bought it. Musta autoreversed that fucker three times before I checked the liner notes.

senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 16 March 2006 20:19 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

I didn't know watt sang on burnin up.... killer track

billstevejim, Thursday, 21 October 2010 17:52 (fifteen years ago)

Macbeth... tune.

Duran (Doran), Thursday, 21 October 2010 18:10 (fifteen years ago)

Weird Al status. Burnt.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Thursday, 21 October 2010 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

I've had my grade 6 class designing album covers for art the past couple of weeks. The Whitey Album is taped to my board right now, along with Daydream Nation and Bad Moon Rising.

clemenza, Thursday, 21 October 2010 18:26 (fifteen years ago)

Someone I know OWNS the GRichter "kandel" (sp?) that was borrowed for DDN artwork and these people always have insane artwork rotating through their office but when I saw it in person it was really impressive.

i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 21 October 2010 18:28 (fifteen years ago)

holy shit, i should have said "OWNED": http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/news/painting-that-adorned-classic-album-to-be-sold-783539.html

damn!

i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 21 October 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

Macbeth remix just barely wins over the non-remix

billstevejim, Thursday, 21 October 2010 18:34 (fifteen years ago)

I interviewed Sonic Youth around the time of Sonic Nurse and I said to Thurston Moore: "Yeah, thanks for inventing trip hop with Macbeth man."

He got really excited and said, that when they'd first recorded it, he'd looked at putting out some white label 12"s out of it under some DJ name.

At this point in the interview Kim raised and eyebrow and started shaking her head.

He said, "But other members of the band weren't so keen so I shelved that idea."

Duran (Doran), Thursday, 21 October 2010 18:49 (fifteen years ago)

hahaha sneaky motherfucker

willem, Thursday, 21 October 2010 18:58 (fifteen years ago)

for some reason i never got into this record, despite loving everything else sonic youth did from that timeframe. still doesn't really do much for me.

akm, Thursday, 21 October 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

otoh, this record totally holds up for me, sounding even better now than it did then (and i liked it a LOT at the time). representative to me of the way that certain artists occasionally hit this ferocious creative peak where they seemingly can't help but bleed out brilliant work at an overwhelming pace. for sonic youth, to me, that seems like 87-88, sister, the whitey album and daydream nation coming (seemingly) all at once. plus a bunch of cool-ass singles, bootlegs and curiosities spilling out from the margins. great time to be a fan.

like the record now because of how expansive and imaginative it is. and drugged the fuck out. "macbeth", of course, but also "g-force" into "platoon II" (speaking of inventing trip-hop), "children of satan" (so ominous!), beatwise rethink of "making the nature scene". on top of that you get watt's "burnin' up", kim's "addicted to love" and fucking "into the groovey". i honestly think it's one of their best and most interesting albums. dig how they're approaching the sounds and vibes of their earliest stuff from a very different vantage point, and love the very evident hip hop influence - something i was sad to see them shed so completely after experimental jet set.

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Thursday, 21 October 2010 21:27 (fifteen years ago)

This I think is actually my favorite SY album

ksh ksh ksh ksh it ksh it (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 21 October 2010 22:11 (fifteen years ago)

I was obsessed with this band and I don't think even I've heard this. If it's actually that good, I'll go find it.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 21 October 2010 22:37 (fifteen years ago)

Speaking of SY stuff never heard before, I'm still kicking myself for not ever getting around to picking up Made In USA when it was all over Champaign back in the mid-90s. I've yet to come across a copy used anywhere.

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 October 2010 22:42 (fifteen years ago)

You're not missing much.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 21 October 2010 22:43 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, made in the usa is mostly a wash

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Friday, 22 October 2010 00:59 (fifteen years ago)

its been a long time since i listened to it but isn't it just demos that got fleshed out on one of their lesser LPs?

i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Friday, 22 October 2010 01:15 (fifteen years ago)

Most definitely not.

Unfrozen Caveman Board-Lawyer (WmC), Friday, 22 October 2010 15:00 (fifteen years ago)

Made In USA is a B movie score they were asked to do after EVOL, contains "Secret Girl" and a few alternate versions of it but is mostly a bunch of weird riff rock instrumental jams (and I think 1 or 2 songs with Thurston vocals), some acoustic guitar and harmonica, totally doesn't work as an 'album' but is an interesting little look at something different from the better known stuff they were doing at the time.

Long live smooth music..... ;) (some dude), Friday, 22 October 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

Most definitely not.

Oh wait, I thought you were referring to the Whitey Album, not Made in USA.

Unfrozen Caveman Board-Lawyer (WmC), Friday, 22 October 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

made in the usa isn't like a lost classic or anything, but if you are a big fan of SY in the 80s, you'll want to hear it.

tylerw, Friday, 22 October 2010 16:41 (fifteen years ago)

Sounds like I should keep digging for it then!

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 October 2010 16:42 (fifteen years ago)

ten months pass...

I'm listening to this for the first time in years, and I still love it. Though I'm with the "better than Evol ?" folks.

I wonder if Madonna ever listened to this. Better yet, I wonder if there is any footage of her being asked about it.

thinveneer, Friday, 2 September 2011 13:53 (fourteen years ago)


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