Scritti Politti - White Bread, Black Beer

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1. The Boom Boom Bap
2. No Fine Lines
3. Snow in Sun
4. Cooking
5. Throw
6. Dr. Abernathy
7. After Six
8. Empty
9. E11th Nuts
10. Window Wide Open
11. Road to No Regret
12. Kylie Ballad
13. Mrs. Hughes
14. Robin Hood

RTRADCD270, release date April 10.

― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 18 March 2006 14:57 (twenty years ago)

That voice, swoon. Current favourite is "E11th Nuts", maybe the most electronic track. In all, a great comeback.

― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 18 March 2006 14:58 (twenty years ago)

I really thought Anomie was a hesitant wash, so is this notably different?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 March 2006 15:09 (twenty years ago)

"The Boom Boom Bap"? A sequel to "Boom! There She Goes"?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 18 March 2006 15:15 (twenty years ago)

what is the source of the album title?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 18 March 2006 15:24 (twenty years ago)

Source is official Rough Trade promo CD-R. It's a very different album to Anomie, with Green singing gentle songs over mostly quite subtle production/arrangements. His (multi-tracked) voice takes center stage throughout. No noticeable hip-hop influence other than a Brand Nubian quote in "Dr. Abernathy"...

― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 18 March 2006 15:51 (twenty years ago)

I clean my gun with a riprod
Here comes the God who don't eat pig lard

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Saturday, 18 March 2006 15:54 (twenty years ago)

i like it already!

― artdamages (artdamages), Saturday, 18 March 2006 15:54 (twenty years ago)

(Oh, and the beats of the last minute-and-half of "Mrs. Hughes" could be considered hip-hop derived - Mos Def nowhere to be seen, anyway).

― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 18 March 2006 15:59 (twenty years ago)

LOL @ Andy. It's actually "punks jump up to get beat down".

― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:02 (twenty years ago)

I assume "Kylie Ballad" is better than the actual Kylie ballad on Body Language to which he contributed vocals.

― brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:04 (twenty years ago)

damn, I was just about to say KYLIE BALLAD?!?!?!

― Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:06 (twenty years ago)

Hyperfuckingventilating, to say the least.

― Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:06 (twenty years ago)

I am the world's only source to the new Scritti album, am I not? This would have pleased the teenage JoB from the '80s no end.

"Kylie Ballad" lyric quote: People want a part of you but who they get is never who you seem / (Who she seems) / But when I'm with you baby, I know just who I am / And no-one understands the way that you do, darling

― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:15 (twenty years ago)

Currently playing low-key shows in London as "Double-G and the Traitorous Three". Saw him/them a few weeks back, and was very impressed indeed. Very un-hiphop, and much more abrasive than any of the post-Songs To Remember stuff, though not as spiky as the early records. Lots of very short (2-minute-or-less) songs with odd structures (not yr normal verse/chorus type affairs). "The Boom Boom Bap" was a definite stand out.

― harvey.w (harvey.w), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:16 (twenty years ago)

Can we start talking about a N American tour (that will probably come nowhere near me!).

― peepee (peepee), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:22 (twenty years ago)

re: I am the world's only source to the new Scritti album, am I not?

correct, no mention on google, yahoo or on meta search engine: clusty

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:23 (twenty years ago)

oof, bad title.

― tom west (thomp), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:25 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure what I'm most psyched about, this or the Scott Walker album.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:26 (twenty years ago)

March 30 Amsterdam show! See you there...

― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:26 (twenty years ago)

― mark grout (mark grout), Saturday, 18 March 2006 17:58 (twenty years ago)

I'm playing keyboards in the live band; having heard the album I can confidently say that yep, the songs are stunning. Dr Abernathy is a blast!

― Rhodri (rhodri), Sunday, 19 March 2006 10:42 (twenty years ago)

Ex-fucking-cited here.

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Sunday, 19 March 2006 10:50 (twenty years ago)

(Unnecessary Gossip) Word on the street is that Green got married recently. That's all I have found out the album, which is nothing.

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Sunday, 19 March 2006 13:42 (twenty years ago)

The enthusiastic nature of this thread is contagious. *bangs gavel*

― The Sound of Walls (Bimble...), Sunday, 19 March 2006 13:52 (twenty years ago)

Hmmmmmm... Green.. Grooooo

― Mads Storm Andersen, Sunday, 19 March 2006 18:37 (twenty years ago)

Oh wow! I am so curious how it will sound. Since Green uses Reason music-software there's a chance he uses one of my sounds :)

That really would be something. But well, I think it will be another unique Scritti album anyway. With the sweetest voice!

/Marco

― Marco Raaphorst, Sunday, 19 March 2006 18:49 (twenty years ago)

This all very exciting. Come, let us have the album !

― Ernst Overbosch, Sunday, 19 March 2006 19:07 (twenty years ago)

www.cdon.com has the album title as...white BEER black beer.........

― justin bindley, Monday, 20 March 2006 18:49 (twenty years ago)

Hefeweizen Stout

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 March 2006 18:56 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

hi!!!
what does "WOOD BEEZ" mean?
tks
Pedro.

― pedro, Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:29 (twenty years ago)

would be's.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:34 (twenty years ago)

"Wood Beez" is lesbian slang for the sexual act of a woman inserting her strap-on dildo in the anus of another woman.

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:36 (twenty years ago)

"There's nothing I wouldn't take.."

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:37 (twenty years ago)

Hurrah a new album. The last one was a mess wasn't it? Some nice stuff, but it just sounded like dicking around in a studio with no focus.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:38 (twenty years ago)

I hear that Aretha Franklin was fond of this practice.

No, I don't know if it she was giving or recieving...

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:39 (twenty years ago)

lol bouncing back

― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:41 (twenty years ago)

Well if you pray like AF, you'd be on yr knees. Fillintherestyersel'

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:41 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, but it's "each time I go to bed I pray like Aretha Franklin". IN BED!

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:43 (twenty years ago)

Then again..."There's nothing I wouldn't take / Oh, even intravenous"

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:45 (twenty years ago)

exactly.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:51 (twenty years ago)

Article in a spanish music site, Zona Musical (www.zm.nu):

http://zm.nu/detalle.php?base=zmnews&lay=cgi&form=detalle&tok4=notici&tok5=&id=13407

― Juan Rebenaque, Saturday, 8 April 2006 18:17 (twenty years ago)

Just was curious...are you all understanding what the Boom Bap is? And the significance of the band's name?

― Lawrence, Monday, 10 April 2006 07:59 (twenty years ago)

Well, 'Boom Bap' means hard beats (unless there's another definition I'm aware of), and Scritti Politti refers to Gramsci's political writings.

What are you getting at?

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Monday, 10 April 2006 08:31 (twenty years ago)

I just find it odd that someone said there was no hip-hop influence, when there's such a noticeable one. Boom Boom Bap is a paean to hip-hop entirely! "The 'Yes, yes, y'all!' was the siren call...", and so on...and yeah, the "boom boom bap" is a hip-hop beat. And in "Double G And The Traitorous 3 (Plus 2)", we have nods to both Double D and The Funky Four (Plus 1). And so on...

― Lawrence, Monday, 10 April 2006 11:29 (twenty years ago)

I think the release date might have been delayed...

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Monday, 10 April 2006 11:38 (twenty years ago)

It's June 5, in the UK at least.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 10 April 2006 11:42 (twenty years ago)

is "traitorous" even a word?...

― hank (hank s), Monday, 10 April 2006 12:02 (twenty years ago)

Have seen the track is featured on the Q top 50 downloads but has no address to download it,where can I get it?

― Joel Martin, Monday, 10 April 2006 12:13 (twenty years ago)

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Wait, hold on, your friend's the bass player and you only just heard the album? Some friend you are!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

this is why i've been saying for MONTHS that i should hear the album!

(she's not a very close friend, i met her through my flatmate)

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

lotsa badly dressed guys,

!!!

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

My friends are the guitarist and keyboard player! Small world.

― teh_kit returns! (g-kit), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah I was talking Green last night over tea and...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

Why would I lie? ;_;

― teh_kit returns! (g-kit), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

I met Alyssa. She seemed nice. She knows my friend pretty well. And I talked to the guitarist after the Tate show. He seemed nice as well.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

D1cky M00re, amirite?

― teh_kit returns! (g-kit), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

If that's directed at me, I dunno him. Or has he got a moustache coz then I know who you mean but don't know him.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

He's never had a moustache! Maybe a patchy beard. Long hair, like mane of lion.

― teh_kit returns! (g-kit), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

haha i included myself in the badly dressed guys column.

my audience comments were mostly meant to indicate that i'm wondering what, for all the blanket alt press goodwill this album is getting, the audience for scritti politti in america even is at this point.

― bo janglin (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

at the l.a. (roxy) show: it was well attended. it was cool how many black people were in attendance -- some latethirtysomething african-american women, and about five old rasta guys (probably expats from brixton or something). nobody in the audience looked exceptionally hipsterish, but that may be due to age.

― the 48 states competition (1939) (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

That is nothing, Jerry the Nipper hangs out with them in the toilets.

I think I would quite like to go to a concert by this group.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 10 November 2006 08:55 (nineteen years ago)

I thought you flogged the LP within days PJM? I'd like to see em too. The album is really very good indeed - I hope there's another one before too long. A live one might be good - it would be great to hear a mixture of old and new all done with the current band. I can't see SP as a live album band though - it's too much like rock and roll to release one.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 10 November 2006 09:28 (nineteen years ago)

Since we're all name dropping, I believe Carsmile knows Rhodri the keyboard player.

Incidentally, here's Rhodri's piece in today's Grauniad about Scritti supporting Brian Wilson:
http://arts.guardian.co.uk/filmandmusic/story/0,,1943183,00.html

― Jeff W (zebedee), Friday, 10 November 2006 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

I did, Doc.

Then I got it again, because I was wrong!

I know, I know.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 10 November 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

I've never done that myself of course.....oh no, definitely not.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 10 November 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

That happened to me with Smiths' Hatful of Hollow actually.

― A Chocolate Ball of Sweet Confectionary Fire (Bimble...), Saturday, 11 November 2006 08:14 (nineteen years ago)

caught him/them last night, in Boston...last stop on the tour...pretty sparsely attended (100 people or so), but that didn't stop Green and band from putting on a tremendous show...loved the rapping bits (nothing like hearing Green Gartside spout "put your muthafuckin hands up!" in that mellifluous voice)...all albums represented except Provision (sob), but none of those songs woulda fit the vibe, and anyway I have heard that Green has long since disowned it...well, let's hope it won't be 26 more years before the next tour...

― hank (hank s), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

He's disowned Provision - wtf! His best album, I reckon.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 09:12 (nineteen years ago)

agreed

― hank (hank s), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...

I'll be honest this album's initial effect on me was obsessive for awhile and then I just...quit suddenly...for months. It was like a hit of crack, an intense high that didn't last long. I pretty much expected to see it languish in my stacks untouched forevermore, but something made me pull it out again and it's just so rich in variety...from acoustic quiet numbers to funky "laptoppy" electro things...I'm surprised to still be so impressed with it. 2006 wasn't a bad year.

― A Tiny Footpath (Bimble...), Saturday, 3 February 2007 07:57 (nineteen years ago)

I had a dream about this album. Can't remember anything about it though, which is just as well.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Saturday, 3 February 2007 09:47 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

PETROCOCADOLLAR IS MY FAVOURITE SONG PETROCOCADOLLAR IS MY FAVOURITE SONG PETROCOCADOLLAR IS MY FAVOURITE SONG PETROCOCADOLLAR IS MY FAVOURITE SONG PETROCOCADOLLAR IS MY FAVOURITE SONG

― Bimble, Sunday, 25 February 2007 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

I just started listening to this again this afternoon and it sounds great. Any new news?

― Eyewona (admrl), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 01:33 (fifteen years ago)

"Robin Hood" is so lovely.

― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 01:36 (fifteen years ago)

The whole album makes me think of a winter afternoon in a London suburb when the sun breaks through just before going down. Crisp air and long shadows.

― Eyewona (admrl), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 01:43 (fifteen years ago)

this is perfect for sipping a cocktail alone in the evening.

― zorn_bond.mp3, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 01:50 (fifteen years ago)

parts of this are like brian wils scoring a late night cinemax movie

― we did it, internet! (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 03:40 (fifteen years ago)

"cinemax" = zorn_bond.mp3 is NOT british

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (admrl), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 04:55 (fifteen years ago)

lol

― we did it, internet! (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 05:54 (fifteen years ago)

nine years pass...

Man, I really slept on this record (mostly because of its shit title), it's bloody amazing and I'm an idiot.

― Maresn3st, Friday, 17 April 2020 15:28 (six years ago)

I love the title

― brimstead, Friday, 17 April 2020 20:19 (six years ago)

aye I like the title

― COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Friday, 17 April 2020 20:21 (six years ago)

My favourite Scritti album.

― kitchen person, Friday, 17 April 2020 20:23 (six years ago)

I love the artwork.

― henry s, Friday, 17 April 2020 20:54 (six years ago)

And the album.

― henry s, Friday, 17 April 2020 20:55 (six years ago)

It's good innit. It got stuck on repeat in my car CD player all over again last year before that noughties poll. Maybe it could have been trimmed down by a few tracks, but I always favour brevity, so...

― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 18 April 2020 01:14 (six years ago)

four years pass...

the way Green says "methamphetamine" is always profoundly delicious to me

― the news is terrible, i'm in the clear (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 August 2024 14:49 (one year ago)

eight months pass...

One of the joys of trying to sort out my CDs has been rediscovering this.

― djh, Wednesday, 23 April 2025 20:06 (one year ago)

this is perfect for sipping a cocktail alone in the evening.

― zorn_bond.mp3, Monday, August 16, 2010

― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 April 2025 20:24 (one year ago)

Is there any hope of a new album? It's close to 20 years since this came out.

― Position Position, Wednesday, 23 April 2025 21:31 (one year ago)

he's been working on a new album for ages, there's a bunch of interviews from a few years ago where he talks about how he has hundreds of unfinished songs but is very bad at finishing them. no idea if anyone will ever get him to finish it though

https://www.classicpopmag.com/2021/06/interview-scritti-polittis-green-gartside/

https://www.stereogum.com/2156880/scritti-politti-green-gartside-interview/interviews/qa/

― ufo, Wednesday, 23 April 2025 22:11 (one year ago)

Nice work if you can get it.

― Nuts, whole hazelnuts (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 April 2025 22:22 (one year ago)

He was in fine form on the tour for this album. I posted way up there "let's hope it won't be 26 more years until the next tour", but here we're well on the way there at this point.

― henry s, Wednesday, 23 April 2025 22:23 (one year ago)

God, we gotta think he invested his C&P '85 album so well to survive this long.

― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 April 2025 23:56 (one year ago)

I vaguely remember him saying in some interview many years ago that having a track on that Madonna album is what kept him going.

― Kim Kimberly, Thursday, 24 April 2025 00:18 (one year ago)

one month passes...

Green is 70 years old today.

Still love 'White Bread, Black Beer' and hope that someone can persuade him to finish the tracks he's been working on.

― Wry & Slobby (Portsmouth Bubblejet), Sunday, 22 June 2025 16:51 (eleven months ago)

eight months pass...

Green Gartside, nicest guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiUwWZS2ags
(a video of Dave from Dirty Projectors talking about meeting him after a Dirty Projectors show – 5:47 if the timestamp doesn't work)

― fpsa, Friday, 13 March 2026 22:31 (three months ago)

Nothing encapsulates tempus fugit for me quite like the fact that Green is now in his seventies. It's a shame he wasn't more prolific. Other than maybe Cole Porter, I can't think of anyone who wrote prettier chord progressions

― Vast Halo, Friday, 13 March 2026 23:06 (three months ago)

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