Duran Duran's 1995 release Thank You has topped a Q magazine poll of worst albums of all time, according to the Independent on Sunday.
The record - a collection of cover versions paying tribute to bands that inspired them - is one of 10 reportedly singled out by the magazine's pundits.
Others include Mick Jagger's 1987 solo album Primitive Cool, Naomi Campbell's Baby Woman and Cyberpunk by Billy Idol.
Duran Duran won a lifetime achievement award at the Q Awards in 2003.
Thank You, which spent just three weeks in the charts, features versions of Lou Reed's Perfect Day, Elvis Costello's Watching the Detectives and Public Enemy's 911 is a Joke.
The band, whose original line-up reformed in 2001, later described the record as "commercial suicide".
Gareth Grundy, deputy editor of Q, told the Independent on Sunday that the album was "abysmal on every level".
"Sometimes these things are redeemed by some sort of kitsch value, but it didn't even have that."
Duran Duran are not the only band to be slated for tackling other people's material, however.
Westlife are also cited for their 2004 Frank Sinatra tribute Allow Us to be Frank, as are the hip-hop artists who contributed to the Phil Collins-themed compilation Urban Renewal.
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 26 March 2006 21:41 (twenty years ago)
Duran Duran
Thank You "DOWNRIGHT INSULTING"
Spice Girls
Any of their solo albums "WRETCHED"
Various Artists
Urban Renewal "WORSE THAN THE ORIGINAL"
Lou Reed
Metal Machine Music "TOSS"
Billy Idol
Cyberpunk "RISIBLE"
Naomi Campbell
Baby Woman "GOBSMACKING HUBRIS"
Kevin Rowland
My Beauty "HIDEOUSLY MAWKISH"
Mick Jagger
Primitive Cool "SOULLESS FUNK-ROCK"
Westlife
Allow Us to Be Frank "AN UNCALLED-FOR MAULING"
Tin Machine
Tin Machine II "A DISASTER"
AND OTHERS...
DJ MARK RADCLIFFE nominates Metal Machine Music, by Lou Reed: "I would say William Shatner's album, but that's almost so bad it comes out the other side. Metal Machine Music is not one, but two albums of unlistenable noise, so technically it's twice as bad. I think Lou Reed would be quite proud of it being the worst album ever."
TV PRESENTER JUNE SARPONG nominates Aquarium, by Aqua: "When I was growing up I used to think they were really cool and I bought all their albums, in fact. The next one was called Aquarius. But looking back now this must be the worst thing I've heard."
DJ NORMAN COOK nominates The Mash Up Mix 2006, various artists: "Mash-ups or bootlegs [where DJs construct new tracks from samples] used to be something underground, illegal and naughty. But when they start doing K-tel style compilations, things like that kill the whole genre."
― danny invincible (michael w.), Sunday, 26 March 2006 21:58 (twenty years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 26 March 2006 22:00 (twenty years ago)
― sleeve (sleeve), Sunday, 26 March 2006 22:03 (twenty years ago)
― Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Sunday, 26 March 2006 22:09 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 26 March 2006 22:13 (twenty years ago)
― musically (musically), Sunday, 26 March 2006 22:17 (twenty years ago)
― Palomino (Palomino), Sunday, 26 March 2006 23:15 (twenty years ago)
This is a man who gave the last Coldplay album a 5-star review.
― Lotta Continua (Damian), Monday, 27 March 2006 00:37 (twenty years ago)
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 27 March 2006 03:35 (twenty years ago)
― Period period period (Period period period), Monday, 27 March 2006 03:47 (twenty years ago)
Defend the indefensible: Mick Jagger Solo
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 27 March 2006 05:32 (twenty years ago)
It's pretty much what you'd expect from Q, of course, the pioneers of the It's Easier To Laugh At Everything Than To Believe In Anything school of music writing, but Mark Radcliffe's comments are even more depressing, especially when coupled with his daily worsening Radio 2 show. When exactly did he turn into a bitter old fart? God, when he was doing Out On Blue Six 15 years ago he would have PLAYED Metal Machine Music!
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:00 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:02 (twenty years ago)
My post,shortly.
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:09 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:27 (twenty years ago)
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 27 March 2006 08:18 (twenty years ago)
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 27 March 2006 08:19 (twenty years ago)
Thanks, I've been trying to work out how she managed to get a career as a TV presenter for some time and that explains it.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 27 March 2006 11:57 (twenty years ago)
― zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 27 March 2006 12:00 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 27 March 2006 12:01 (twenty years ago)
― Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Monday, 27 March 2006 12:01 (twenty years ago)
― send your men of science quick (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 27 March 2006 12:06 (twenty years ago)
― zeus (zeus), Monday, 27 March 2006 12:10 (twenty years ago)
― tried and tested, Monday, 27 March 2006 12:15 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 27 March 2006 12:35 (twenty years ago)
― death in the afternoon, Monday, 27 March 2006 12:39 (twenty years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 27 March 2006 12:52 (twenty years ago)
Citing albums loved by millions of true music lovers would have been just pathetic.
Any album that is in the Acclaimed Music Top 2500 belongs nowhere in a list of worst albums ever, regardless of subjective opinion. Most overrated, maybe, but not worst.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 27 March 2006 12:56 (twenty years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 27 March 2006 12:57 (twenty years ago)
I have never heard MMM, but I would like to.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 27 March 2006 12:58 (twenty years ago)
(Although "Let's Work" would be classed as a war crime in an enlightened world.)
― Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Monday, 27 March 2006 13:10 (twenty years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 27 March 2006 13:11 (twenty years ago)
― Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Monday, 27 March 2006 13:12 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 27 March 2006 13:14 (twenty years ago)
I would be angry at Q were it not for the fact that Duran dissed the magazine a long time ago. In "Undergoing Treatment", Simon sarcastically sings, "We are undergoing treatment 'till our ethic fits the scene laid out in Q magazine/They crave our conformity, mediocre to the bone, terrified testosterone." So fuck them. Fuck them and their dated "let's hate on Duran" shit. I thought I'd seen the last of those nightmarish years when it became hip to like things that came out of the '80s, but no. Apparently Q is stuck in some fucking Nineties time warp, the same one that kept my '80s adoration mostly underground throughout my teenaged years.
― See Me, Repeat Me (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 02:42 (twenty years ago)
― See Me, Repeat Me (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 03:16 (twenty years ago)
― See Me, Repeat Me (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 03:19 (twenty years ago)
― Juzza, Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:02 (twenty years ago)
Q magazine is absymal, i just don't understand how it sells so many copies - i guess there are lot of mainstream rock plebs that listen to virgin radio.
Q magazine
Coldplay 5-star review - went it should have been a 1 star review - I should know I was subjected to it a couple of times at work last summer, dull predictable trad-rock snore-bore drivel.
meanwhile Q gives the new Knife album - 1 star review
X-post the new Mojo issue was a stinker as well, that deserves to rot on the shelves on the newsagent. Elvis on the cover ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ and a dreadful best albums of mojo lifetime list [circa Autumn 1993? onwards]
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:26 (twenty years ago)
These magazines are utterly rubbish, but they obviously hit that bit of the market which still actually buys magazines...
― gek-opel, Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:58 (twenty years ago)
In summary: Go **** yourselves, you rockist ****-****s.
― GLC, Sunday, 2 April 2006 23:47 (twenty years ago)
― electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Sunday, 2 April 2006 23:53 (twenty years ago)
― Mike W (caek), Sunday, 2 April 2006 23:54 (twenty years ago)
I think Q had a point about the wrongness of doing "911 is a joke", but I cannot slag the whole album as I have not heared it.
I think the most wrongness whas heaped on the "Spice Girls" solo albums, all of which have some great stuff. A 'greatest solo hits' would be a perfect 'missing spice girls' album, but again I can't vouch for there being 'bad' tracks on the albums as I haven't heard much of them.
Posh's last single got to number two, right? And wasn't too shabby. But the powers that be decided not to release either album (Apparently she made two), and the good old media would have it as a 'victory' for the whole celeb treadmill.
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 3 April 2006 06:52 (twenty years ago)
Fatboy Slim should've done a mash-up album like Soulwax when he had the chance instead of creating the appalling 'Palookaville' (now THAT'S how to kill a genre).
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 3 April 2006 09:12 (twenty years ago)
"Astronaut" is so much worse. At least Thank You has some comedy value. And "Lay Lady Lay" is pretty okay, I thought.
(I also recently found out that Duran have a surprising amount of obssessive fans -- wrote a bad review of Astronaut in a local Canadian paper, and got about five complaining letters, which is a tidal wave response comparatively. And some of them were from fans in the New York and UK.)
― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Monday, 3 April 2006 10:50 (twenty years ago)
Er, after you...
― Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Monday, 3 April 2006 12:24 (twenty years ago)
― js (honestengine), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:04 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:10 (twenty years ago)
Westlife are just so bland they can't even offend, there are less obvious, less cliched, harder and more deserving targets
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:19 (twenty years ago)
Not Crap!
Band On The RunBrothers In ArmsUse Your Illusion I & IIBe Here NowUp (R.E.M.)
Crap Fabs!
Give My Regards To Broad StreetUnfinished Music No.1 - Two VirginsGone TroppoRingo The 4th
50) Beck - Midnite Vultures (1999)49) Neil and The Shocking Pins - Everybody's Rockin' (1983)48) Milli Vanilli - All or Something (1988)47) Ozzy Osbourne - Uner Cover (205)46) Oasis - Standing On The Shoulder of Giants (2000)45) William Shatner - The Transformed Man (1968)44) Kiss - The Music From "The Elder" (1981)43) The Travelling Wilburys - Vol 3 (1990)42) Babylon Zoo - The Boy With X-Ray Eyes (1996)41) Paul Simon - Songs From The Capeman Soundtrack (1997)40) The Others - The Others (2005)39) Big Country - Undercover (2001)38) Chris Rea - The Road To Hell: Part 2 (1999)37) Shania Twain - Come On Over (1997)36) Kula Shaker - Peasants, Pigs and Astronaughts (1999)35) Puff Daddy - Forever (1999)34) Fischerspooner - #1 (2002)33) Billy Ray Cyrus - Mercury (1992)32) Ace Of Base - The Sign (1993)31) Stevie Wonder - The Woman In Red (1984)30) Michael Jackson - Invincible (2001)29) Various - Christmas in The Stars: The Star Wars Christmas Album (1980)28) The Rolling Stones - Dirty Work (1986)27) Destiny's Child - Destiny Fulfilled (2004)26) Vanilla Ice - Hard To Swallow (1998)25) The Cranberries - To The Faithful Departed (1996)24) Lauren Hill - MTV Unplugged 2.0 (2002)23) Alanis Morisette - Supposed Former Infactuation Junkie (1998)22) Robson and Jerome - Robson and Jerome (1995)21) The Clash - Cut The Crap (198520) Mariah Carey - Glitter OST (2001)19) Goldie - Saturn Returnz (1998)18) Crazy Hits - Crazy Frog (2005)17) Bob Dylan & The Grateful Dead - Dylan and The Dead (1989)16) Spice Girls - Forever (2000)15) Various - Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band OST (1978)14) Terence Trent D'Arby - Neither Fish Nor Flesh13) Bruce Willis - The Return of Bruno (1987)12) Tom Jones - Mr. Jones (2002)11) Limp Bizkit - Chocolate Starfish and The Hot Dog Flavored Water (2000)10) Tin Machine - Tin Machine II (1991)09) Westlife - Allow Us To Be Frank (2004)08) Mick Jagger - Primtive Cool (1987)07) Kevin Rowland - My Beauty (1999)06) Naomi Campbell - Babywoman (1994)05) Billy Idol - Cyberpunk (1993)04) Lou Reed - Metal Machine Music (1975)03) Various - Urban Renewal: The Songs of Phill Collins (2001)02) All Spice Girls Solo Albums (1999-)01) Duran Duran - Thank You (1995)
― MitchellStirling (MitchellStirling), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:35 (twenty years ago)
― mike a, Monday, 3 April 2006 18:06 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 3 April 2006 18:25 (twenty years ago)
― See Me, Repeat Me (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 04:15 (twenty years ago)
I haven't heard most of Thank You, but it seems to me that its worst aspect (at least from DD's standpoint) was its timing. The band had actually begun having chart hits again - decent ones - with "Ordinary World" and "Come Undone." So how do they try to keep the momentum going? Record a bad covers album. My theory is that it effectively killed their comeback once and for all.
I don't know. Maybe if it'd been released when the band actually wanted to release it, i.e. right off the heels of the massive tour in support of The Wedding Album, maybe it wouldn't have been so negatively regarded, and maybe the band would have been able to return quickly to the task of recording their own music. Maybe that would have led to more positive vibes re: the Thank You album and a continued interest in the band's new music. Because really, the song selection had to be what it was. This is what the band were listening to at the time of The Wedding Album and they wanted to highlight this. None of the members of Duran ca. 1993 were particularly interested in looking back. They were all about looking forward and at the present at once and, as such, they weren't going to be gazing upon themselves as teens and thinking, "Well, we loved Roxy/Bowie/Chic/Pistols when we were younger, so maybe we should concentrate on that for our covers album." They wanted to move away from that at that time.
BTW, would you have purchased Medazzaland had it been released in 1995? Because that was the kind of music they were going for, and the kind of music on said album was actually a logical progression in their path toward creating ever-changing, ever-evolving music. Astronaut was remarkable in that it was actually a huge step BACK in terms of the band's musical evolution, back to the Rio-tinged pop/rock sounds they became famous for in the early '80s. But Medazzaland and Pop Trash made total sense, and had the band released anything new instead of the covers album in 1995, they would have released something akin to Medazzaland.
― See Me, Repeat Me (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 04:23 (twenty years ago)
I cannot understand what people have against that album. Sure it doesn't "rock", but then, Oasis are at their best when they do Beatles-influenced POP ballads anyway.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 17:29 (twenty years ago)
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 17:34 (twenty years ago)
50) Beck - Midnite Vultures (1999)46) Oasis - Standing On The Shoulder of Giants (2000)44) Kiss - The Music From "The Elder" (1981)43) The Travelling Wilburys - Vol 3 (1990)34) Fischerspooner - #1 (2002)
As for the rest of the list, I can understand most of the albums are in there, although "Come On Over" occasionally appear on lists of best albums ever and as such shouldn't be in this list.
Also, Rolling Stones' mid 80s output wasn't that bad, was it?
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 08:17 (twenty years ago)
I guess they listed is as a response to those who write of McCartney's entire solo career as bad.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 08:21 (twenty years ago)
― bham (bham), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 12:27 (twenty years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 12:32 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 12:33 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 12:44 (twenty years ago)
― the prodigal, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 17:30 (twenty years ago)
― the prodigal, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 17:31 (twenty years ago)
They are sort of an interesting read because they tend to be dominated by two kinds of albums
1. Typical mainstream titles that anyone may click on just to add a bad rating, and then lacking the all the good ratings that Oasis/Coldplay will have to oppose the bad ones. Albums in the "canon" receive too many good reviews to do well in this list2. Albums that are generally considered by fans to be the act's worst - these people often rate every single one of their favourite act's work while the lack of fans liking them will give the albums very few positive ratings, bringing the total rating to an ovious low.
All in all, this is a fascinating list because, well, I think most people will agree with the selections (other than some of the mainstream teenybopper pop ones)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 11:29 (nineteen years ago)
Crazy Frog at #1...stupid - who has actually heard this album?
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 11:41 (nineteen years ago)
Is this true?
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 12:05 (nineteen years ago)
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 12:12 (nineteen years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 12:22 (nineteen years ago)
― Bidfurd (Bidfurd), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 12:28 (nineteen years ago)
― Bidfurd (Bidfurd), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)
― Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)