― earthly kitt (earthly), Monday, 27 March 2006 05:39 (twenty years ago)
for those of us who knew this wonderful and talented man, and for those of us who appreciated his fine music (swell maps, jacobites, nikki sudden), sunday, march 26th was a very grey day. rest in peace nikki 1956-2006
If this is really the case, just an incredible loss. I'm glad I had the chance to meet him, albeit briefly, that night.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 27 March 2006 05:56 (twenty years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 27 March 2006 05:59 (twenty years ago)
― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 27 March 2006 06:07 (twenty years ago)
― Period period period (Period period period), Monday, 27 March 2006 06:10 (twenty years ago)
I was recently going though the archives of the Little Hits blog and found this post, featuring a longtime favorite song of mine:
http://www.littlehits.com/2005/01/song-of-day-january-17-2005.html#comments
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 27 March 2006 06:24 (twenty years ago)
― Jack Cole (jackcole), Monday, 27 March 2006 06:38 (twenty years ago)
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 27 March 2006 06:48 (twenty years ago)
― Dee Xtrovert (dee dee), Monday, 27 March 2006 06:49 (twenty years ago)
― geeta (geeta), Monday, 27 March 2006 06:51 (twenty years ago)
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 27 March 2006 06:54 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 27 March 2006 06:56 (twenty years ago)
Both people who had it going well (onthe surface, certainly), and so much respect from people I knew (of), it seems both people had one really great day and then say "I know what'd round the day off nicely"...
I know that's probably too soon, too raw. But I had to say something more than "Man that sucks" or something. There's so much in the world that's dangerous but that people should know of or have experience of, but there's some things it's better never to know.
Too many people die doing things they like. I'm rambling now, (shuttup mark) I'm going to.
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:03 (twenty years ago)
Don't look back
Rest well.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:12 (twenty years ago)
― geeta (geeta), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:15 (twenty years ago)
just one of the best bands ever .. certainly more imaginative and insightful than 90% of the "post-punk" stuff we're supposed to love .. Swell Maps simply just a cut above
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:15 (twenty years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:15 (twenty years ago)
― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:18 (twenty years ago)
― Jack Cole (jackcole), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:18 (twenty years ago)
very sad news..
RIP Nikki
― Jack Battery-Pack (Jack Battery-Pack), Monday, 27 March 2006 08:06 (twenty years ago)
― Good Dog (Good Dog), Monday, 27 March 2006 08:08 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 27 March 2006 08:14 (twenty years ago)
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 27 March 2006 08:16 (twenty years ago)
I read RecordCollector, pretty much since it started, and one day there was an article about the Beach Boys by Nikki. I recognised the name, and thought, hey anyone can write articles for magazines then! (i.e. as opposed to staff only, obv) So I penned one about the Jesus and Mary chain, and they published it about a year later.
An inconsequential anecdote, and my only article yes, but hey.
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 27 March 2006 08:17 (twenty years ago)
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 27 March 2006 08:29 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus sinks his soul in Mother Nature's bower (Dada), Monday, 27 March 2006 10:14 (twenty years ago)
― yer mam! (yer mam!), Monday, 27 March 2006 10:19 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 March 2006 10:23 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus sinks his soul in Mother Nature's bower (Dada), Monday, 27 March 2006 10:24 (twenty years ago)
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 27 March 2006 11:52 (twenty years ago)
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 27 March 2006 11:57 (twenty years ago)
― Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Monday, 27 March 2006 12:05 (twenty years ago)
Other Jacobites stuff:
JacobitesLost In A Sea Of ScarvesThe Ragged SchoolFortune Of Fame (Big Hits And Broken Biscuits)Howling Good Times (1,000 copies + free 7")Kiss Of Life (999 copies)God Save Us Poor Sinners
And yes, they either re-relased many of the same songs or ddid different versions of them, but that was what that pair was about--terminally lazy, great collaborative songs)
Nikki Solo:
Dead Men Tell No Tales KIss You Kidnapped Charabanc Crown of ThornsTreasure Island Back To The CoastThe Jewel ThiefSeven Lives Later Egyptian RoadsRed BrocadeWaiting On EgyptThe Bible BeltThe Jewel ThiefFrom The Warwick Road To The Banks Of The Nil
Ok, I've prattled enough. I am desperately going to miss this man.
Thom Jurek
― Thom Jurek (Blue of Noon), Monday, 27 March 2006 12:47 (twenty years ago)
Thanks for all the great music over the years. RIP Nikki.
I shall play Robespierre's Velvet Basement in his honor.
― Jeff K (jeff k), Monday, 27 March 2006 12:51 (twenty years ago)
― mcd (mcd), Monday, 27 March 2006 13:35 (twenty years ago)
― Momus (Momus), Monday, 27 March 2006 13:53 (twenty years ago)
― TRG (TRG), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:00 (twenty years ago)
― Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:18 (twenty years ago)
― Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:20 (twenty years ago)
Regrettably not. What I had heard of his post-Maps stuff often struck me as a reverent approach to Marc Bolan (when frankly an irreverent one works better -- though Devendra seems to have his cake and eat it too). I'm willing to be convinced otherwise but that's a discussion for another day.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:21 (twenty years ago)
― pyjamagrama (teenagequiet), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:29 (twenty years ago)
--- In [email protected], desko2000@... wrote:>> woe woe WOE!!! Didn't he play shows in NYC this past week?!?!?!?! Any> details?
I checked with the original poster to confirm this and it's true. There aren't really anydetails as of yet though I'm sure they'll be announced in some manner.
And I guess this is as good a place as any for me to offer a review of saturday night's showat the Knitting Factory tap bar. The band, Nikki, Danny Hole (the Warlocks) and Alan Merrill(the Arrows, the man who wrote I Love Rock-n-Roll?) started out a bit shambolic and raw,and it was quickly pointed out that the bass player hadn't even rehearsed with them.Considering that, his/their improvisational abilities were pretty impressive and when theygot it together it was quite rousing. They played some old songs, some newer songs andsome covers to a small but dedicated and appreciative crowd, myself included.
Then halfway through a cover of T Rex's Bang a Gong, Evan Dando of the Lemonheads came on stage and tried to get his guitar to work. It didn't. Only at the end did theyget it sorted out, just in time for Bang a Gong to turn into Sister Ray. At this point, Irealized I was watching something very special! The rest of the show went along like that.Things would fall apart, they'd pick up, they'd rock out, Nikki would sing some heartfelttunes, then delve into a classic Swell Maps number, which would somehow morph into Sympathy for the Devil. They also covered The Stone's Dead Flowers.
After the show, I had the chance to briefly meet Nikki thanks to an introduction by Joly.Following that I stood in the Knitting Factory hallway as the huge line formed for peoplewho'd come to see the Gossip to get their coats. I laughed as Evan Dando pushed throwthem, mostly unrecognized, and thought what a shame that all these people don't realizethat Nikki Sudden, one of the towering figures of Post-punk, just finished a set. Later atthe Gossip after-party I got to meet their bass player who exclaimed "I can't believe NikkiSudden's playing downstairs while we're up here, what a fucked up world this is!" or something to that effect. I'm not sure if he meant Nikki should've had the mainstage, or ifhe was simply expressing frustration that he couldn't check the show out because he hadhis own concert to play.
Yesterday we can say we lost a true rock-n-roll legend, never quite given his due, but withinfluence as wide as can be imagined. At the very least we can be satisfied that in recentyears more and more people became aware of his work, we can thank Secretly Canadian:
http://www.secretlycanadian.com/
for putting his solo records, and the Swell Maps records back in print, and they're all worthchecking out.
RIP, Nikki.
-dan
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:39 (twenty years ago)
Tom Hyland, local show promoter, had this to say:
such terrible news...I was actually working on a Swell Maps reuinon for this Summer, Dot Dash Fest, plus SF, LA, Seattle, Boston, Chicago.
Nikki and Jowe were really into it and plans were being made; they were working on convincing Richard Earle (the other original guitarist) and it was looking like it was gonna happen...
He will be missed...
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:40 (twenty years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:56 (twenty years ago)
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002236579
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 27 March 2006 15:10 (twenty years ago)
Swell Maps --http://youtube.com/watch?v=YweKU8ckalk&search=swell%20maps
― TRG (TRG), Monday, 27 March 2006 15:18 (twenty years ago)
― msp (mspa), Monday, 27 March 2006 15:21 (twenty years ago)
― Zwan (miccio), Monday, 27 March 2006 15:27 (twenty years ago)
― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Monday, 27 March 2006 15:34 (twenty years ago)
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Monday, 27 March 2006 15:47 (twenty years ago)
― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:19 (twenty years ago)
― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:24 (twenty years ago)
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:29 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 30 March 2006 07:11 (twenty years ago)
― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 30 March 2006 08:12 (twenty years ago)
http://news.independent.co.uk/people/obituaries/article354462.ece
― Tim Rutherford-Johnson (Rambler), Thursday, 30 March 2006 09:17 (twenty years ago)
― c@md3n (c@md3n), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:15 (twenty years ago)
― Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:58 (twenty years ago)
I was not a fan until Saturday, March 25, my birthday. Early morning, March 26, a friend and I stopped off at the Knitting Factory before going home. Not knowing who was playing, I asked the bouncers if it was worth going into the club and one of them chimed in enthusiastically, "the set is almost finished but you should check out the band playing on the ___ floor. Great sound." So we went in and sat almost directly in front of Nikki Sudden (hence I feel the need to share this). There was someone on the side of the stage videotaping the set. We heard two songs - I think the last song was Sympathy for The Devil. Midway through the first song I looked over at my friend and said what a great way to end the night - their amazing.The vibe was definitely punk yet gentle (strange combination, but true). Nikki Sudden was dressed in what I now know was his trademark glam rock suit; I recall seeing rings on his fingers. He hovered over the mike and strummed his guitar like a legend actually...I knew that we were watching someone special.
All around were young punk rockers adding to the vibe, all of them listening appreciatively - in fact it was clear that those guys looked up to Mr. Sudden by the way they were watching him. There were a number of British folks there. One of the guitarist walked off the stage midway through Sympathy for the Devil (I think) and did not return...but Mr. Sudden carried on without a pause. I don't even think that he noticed that the guitarist had left.
I wanted to hear more and was disappointed when the band concluded their set. The audience was definitely appreciative - so much so that Nikki Sudden said something like, we can keep playing if you'd like. But the other band members were already walking toward the back of the stage. Someone said something to him - I cannot remember what - but it was a flattering comment. Mr. Sudden seemed humble and just born to be a musician. All of this I got in two songs time....I cannot believe that he died hours later.
I was quite lucky indeed to hear the last two songs he would ever play. I will be purchasing Groove (I think that's the title) at my next visit to the record store.
May Mr. Sudden rest in peace.
Amy
― herecomesthesun (herecomesthesun), Saturday, 1 April 2006 12:48 (twenty years ago)
Devon e. Levins
― Devon e. Levins, Saturday, 1 April 2006 14:53 (twenty years ago)
― Steve Beck, Saturday, 1 April 2006 16:59 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 1 April 2006 17:33 (twenty years ago)
To bad Nikki didn’t have a chance to see the Max Blagg rant in Emily and Pat;s Nightclubbing Retrosptive at the Downtown Show in NYC …Blagg nailed it with his amazing bingo on junk, junkies, musicians and those who lives the junkies make toxic.
Remember when the dead junkies body lies on a cold slab in the police DOA room .. it is just that a dead naked junkie with a nametag tied to the big toe .. in death the junkie is no one but a dead junkie
What a waste .. you’d had thought after loosing his brother epic to an OD Nikki might have learnt something.
Please people deal with this stupid, unnecessary death not by being romantic ( the nice sweet guy is in reality one cold dead junkie) but by confront the reality of what junk does to a human being. You can start with the words : selfish, manipulative, self-centered, whinner, soulsucker .. and add what ever other words come to mind.
Called narcotics anonymous if you need more information.
tasty
― tastytool, Saturday, 1 April 2006 19:55 (twenty years ago)
Everybody knows what junk does, unfortunately those addicted are usually unable to do anything about it by the nature of their, erm, addiction.
But thanks for the pious bullshit all the same.
― tasting his own tool, Saturday, 1 April 2006 21:42 (twenty years ago)
I have since checked out Mr. Sudden's journal entries....he was quite a character and seemed to live life quite fully. Among the things that touched me was his love for his parents and the solace he felt when visiting them.
My hearfelt condolences to everyone for this huge loss.
― herecomesthesun (herecomesthesun), Sunday, 2 April 2006 02:03 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 2 April 2006 02:14 (twenty years ago)
― herecomesthesun (herecomesthesun), Sunday, 2 April 2006 02:27 (twenty years ago)
Wish people would stop the rumours which are very hurtful to family and friends at this time.
Those of us who knew Nikki well will remember him for being excentric, tenacious, confident, funny, charming, sometimes selfish, terribly vain, but totally lovable and a totally dedicated rock star (move over Keith).
I was fortunate to have managed Nikki and Epic in the 80's for a couple of years. They we classic characters to work I have many happy and fun memories of working together. I kept in touch with Nikki off and on through the years and just heard from him a few weeks ago.
So sorry I can't make it over for the funeral on the 18th but my thoughts and prayers are with Nikki’s family and friends. I will be with you in spirit. I know you are up there Nikki and just lovely all this attention. May you rest and I look forward to reading your biography. Andy sad it was a good read.
Fiona MacPherson, Melbourne Australia
― Fiona MacPherson, Sunday, 2 April 2006 08:24 (twenty years ago)
What does "a totally dedicated rock star" mean?
― peepee (peepee), Sunday, 2 April 2006 14:39 (twenty years ago)
Oddly enough, I'd never even heard of Swell Maps till this thread.
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 2 April 2006 15:33 (twenty years ago)
Pleas stop talking bout drugs, noone knows whats happen at this time, and although Epics death was not drugrelated.Nikki, god blessyou wherever you may be
J.Breu
― J.Breu, Sunday, 2 April 2006 22:16 (twenty years ago)
I'd actually met Nikki just the once in 1982 at a london flat. The first time I saw him on stage was his last gig. So I was fairly freaked out by this news. I live in the Uk and just happended to be visiting NYC at the time. I bought a cd from him after the gig and got it signed - possibly his last signed cd? Who knows. It was to a common friend saying "where the hell are you?". I just hope the 15 bucks I gave him wasn't used to buy any substances. But i guess if it was going to happen, it was going to happen...
I spoke to the person that filmed the show. He explained it would be online on his website. I forget the name something like www.punk*****.com. Hopefully it'll be up online sometime soon. I'm not that familiar with Nikki's back catalogue, but i do remember them playing the Stones "dead flowers" and the lyrics "no i won't forget to put roses on your grave" now kind of echoes....
My sympathies go out to his parents/friends.
tf
Ps yes, he had a very young looking chinese girl helping him sell cd's / t-shirts.
He also cracked a joke about gary glitter - something along the lines of "he didn't do anything wrong, just saving a girl from a lifetime in vice trade!" (fairly sick but i found it funny... think i was the only audible voice laughing, but then i have a perverse sense of humour).
― tr*ppingflags, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 11:01 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 11:11 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 11:14 (twenty years ago)
― tr*ppingflags, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 11:20 (twenty years ago)
The rest is still projection, but we can agree to differ there if you like.
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 11:24 (twenty years ago)
― tr*ppingflags, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 12:02 (twenty years ago)
It wasn't your post I was objecting to. It was 'tastytool' above.
I have no issues at all with what you said previously.
(oops. Bigtime)
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 12:06 (twenty years ago)
no worries re: our misunderstanding.
― tr*ppingflags, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 12:19 (twenty years ago)
That'll be Joly's http://www.punkcast.com - not posted yet although there is a Nikki Sudden 2004 show.
― - stefan (- stefan), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 12:46 (twenty years ago)
― tr*ppingflags, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 15:16 (twenty years ago)
http://www.nikkisudden.com/news/index.htm
Nikki Sudden Thanksgiving Service
A Thanksgiving Service for the life of Nikki Sudden will be held at 12.30pm on Wednesday 19th April at the Baptist Church, Chandos Street, Leamington Spa, Warwickshire, England.
Everybody is most welcome to attend and it will give us the opportunity to meet and thank you personally for all your love and support during this very difficult time.
There is a good train service from London (Marylebone Station) direct to Leamington Spa.
The Church is about 10 minutes by taxi from the station.
Here are some examples of train times:
Marylebone depart 09.20 arrive Leamington Spa 10.57----------------- 09.50 --------------------- 11.14----------------- 10.20 --------------------- 11.54
Nikki came back to the place he was staying in New York after his final concert after the others had gone to bed. He sat at a table reading a book and that is how he was found the next morning. The initial autopsy conducted in New York revealed that he had a slightly enlarged heart. Mercifully, he would have suffered no pain nor known anything about it. We believe he is now with his beloved brother, Epic.
Thank you all so much,
Lois & Trevor Godfrey
― StanM (StanM), Saturday, 15 April 2006 18:18 (twenty years ago)
Parents shocked by musician's sudden death
― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Sunday, 16 April 2006 20:36 (twenty years ago)
Says it all really.
― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Sunday, 16 April 2006 20:38 (twenty years ago)
― mcd (mcd), Monday, 17 April 2006 12:51 (twenty years ago)
― Christine, Sunday, 21 May 2006 19:09 (twenty years ago)
listening to The Ragged School lately
what an album, i am in love
it's like if lou reed and bowie tried to write an album of "wild horses" by the stones
― he do the waka lyfe (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 20:34 (fifteen years ago)
this guy has a dense, confusing discography, but it's kind of fun that way -- i'm always discovering different records of his that i end up loving.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 20:48 (fifteen years ago)
2006 was a rough year for cult rockers -- grant mclennan, syd barrett, nikki sudden, arthur lee ...
― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 20:53 (fifteen years ago)
ha that's funny tyler i was going to ask you if you liked nikki, seems super up your alley.
what else should i get?
― he do the waka lyfe (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:00 (fifteen years ago)
all of the jacobites 80s records are worth getting, actually haven't heard the later stuff. Robespierre's Velvet Basement is probably my fave after the Ragged School. the waiting on egypt/bible belt reish on secretly canadian is great too.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:04 (fifteen years ago)
x-post
I like that description of The Ragged School (and I like that album alot too. haven't listened to it in awhile but I should).
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:56 (fifteen years ago)
yeah that's the only solo one I have and it is a great record
― sleeve, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 23:40 (fifteen years ago)
cool news from easy action: Well we are a bit late on getting stock on the long awaited Nikki Sudden book but we will ship out the day they arrive due to be first week of March. Nikkis albums The Jewel Thief & Seven Lives Later have both been expanded and are available as downloads. Playing with Fire is in the shops ( yeah all four of them !)and the Epic Soundtracks Anthology Wild Smile is now due for May. This will be 1 disc of remastered tracks from existing albums and 1 disc of unreleased material compiled by Chris Coleman ( what a nice way to turn seventeen fanzine ) The Nikki Sudden box set "The Boy from nowhere,who fell out of the sky" is now going to be 6 discs . We are NOT including any dvd material as that would delay the release even further .We are hoping for a September release on this one !
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 21:19 (fifteen years ago)
RIP Dave Kusworth
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 13:06 (five years ago)
:(
― Evan, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 14:25 (five years ago)
Oh no!
― Mule, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 14:33 (five years ago)
oh sad....The Ragged School is a favorite
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 14:35 (five years ago)
Whenever I dip back into Sudden/RS Howard/Soundtracks/Kusworth and hear their louche surrealism, I think post-1980 Dylan would sound great backed by a shambling, clanging band like Jacobites.
― Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Thursday, 24 September 2020 13:49 (five years ago)
damn RIP. think I’ll bust out my jacobites CDs tonight.
― brimstead, Thursday, 24 September 2020 17:39 (five years ago)