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Word has it that Nikki Sudden OD'd Saturday night after his Knitting Factory show in NYC. Swell Maps perhaps one of the top 5 bands of all time. Rest easy.

earthly kitt (earthly), Monday, 27 March 2006 05:39 (twenty years ago)

My friend Eva, who's boyfriend was playing drums with him at saturday's (really fun) show, just posted this to nyhappenings:

for those of us who knew this wonderful and talented man, and for those of us who appreciated his fine music (swell maps, jacobites, nikki sudden), sunday, march 26th was a very grey day. rest in peace nikki 1956-2006

If this is really the case, just an incredible loss. I'm glad I had the chance to meet him, albeit briefly, that night.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 27 March 2006 05:56 (twenty years ago)

this is terrible. RIP.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 27 March 2006 05:59 (twenty years ago)

Oh crap. :-(((((

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 27 March 2006 06:07 (twenty years ago)

what! he was just on wfmu! what!?

Period period period (Period period period), Monday, 27 March 2006 06:10 (twenty years ago)

I just spoke to someone and confirmed it, he passed away sometime early sunday.

I was recently going though the archives of the Little Hits blog and found this post, featuring a longtime favorite song of mine:

http://www.littlehits.com/2005/01/song-of-day-january-17-2005.html#comments

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 27 March 2006 06:24 (twenty years ago)

i 'll miss nikki a great deal -- a fine musician and songwriter -- one of my favorites.

Jack Cole (jackcole), Monday, 27 March 2006 06:38 (twenty years ago)

gutted, totally gutted.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 27 March 2006 06:48 (twenty years ago)

Fuckity fuck fuck. He was a sweet guy and wonderful musician and songwriter. Last time I spoke with him, we talked about (his then recently deceased brother) Epic, and Nikki started to cry in the middle of an anecdote, which broke my heart.

Dee Xtrovert (dee dee), Monday, 27 March 2006 06:49 (twenty years ago)

this fucking sucks so much. if it really was an overdose, that makes me even more sad. one of my old friends died a few months ago from a drug overdose, and i haven't been the same since. i find myself feeling some of those same feelings of rage and sadness right now. so tragic and needless and sad.

geeta (geeta), Monday, 27 March 2006 06:51 (twenty years ago)

Goddamnit.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 27 March 2006 06:54 (twenty years ago)

God, what depressing news to come back to first thing on a Monday morning. I was listening to Jane From Occupied Europe over the weekend as well. The second one to OD, after Epic Soundtracks. Talk about a jinxed band. And with Nick K still awfully fresh in my mind (with the new Junior Boys record upcoming)...just don't do drugs, don't do them... :-(

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 27 March 2006 06:56 (twenty years ago)

I knew of Nikki more than I knew Nick K, and Nick K's story was well covered here as it should be.

Both people who had it going well (onthe surface, certainly), and so much respect from people I knew (of), it seems both people had one really great day and then say "I know what'd round the day off nicely"...

I know that's probably too soon, too raw. But I had to say something more than "Man that sucks" or something. There's so much in the world that's dangerous but that people should know of or have experience of, but there's some things it's better never to know.

Too many people die doing things they like. I'm rambling now, (shuttup mark) I'm going to.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:03 (twenty years ago)

Read about Seymour yesterday
In the news that found its way
To where I sleep and seek to be
Where I am, I hate to see

Don't look back

Rest well.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:12 (twenty years ago)

i can't bring myself to listen to the more upbeat, punky parts of their oeuvre. it's all about the miserable piano ballad snippets with the talking in the background ('don't throw ashtrays at me,' etc.)

geeta (geeta), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:15 (twenty years ago)

holy crap .. ugh

just one of the best bands ever .. certainly more imaginative and insightful than 90% of the "post-punk" stuff we're supposed to love .. Swell Maps simply just a cut above

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:15 (twenty years ago)

I should mention from what I've heard, at this point they're not sure it was an overdose exactly, that it may have been a case of passing out and hitting his head. I'm not stating that as if it's any sort of consolation, just wanted to clarify a bit, I'm sure it'll be announced soon enough.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:15 (twenty years ago)

Oh Geeta, I wish I could hug you. :-(((

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:18 (twenty years ago)

stormy hit the nail on the head.

Jack Cole (jackcole), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:18 (twenty years ago)

just read Nikki's last post on his board he wrote last Thursday, where he talked about the death of Epic....

very sad news..

RIP Nikki

Jack Battery-Pack (Jack Battery-Pack), Monday, 27 March 2006 08:06 (twenty years ago)

very sad news. i liked the swell maps a lot.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Monday, 27 March 2006 08:08 (twenty years ago)

Let's all hold our breath for the NME tribute.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 27 March 2006 08:14 (twenty years ago)

Innit. RIP

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 27 March 2006 08:16 (twenty years ago)

Actually, I have a thought! I think he was the one person who got me into writing article.

I read RecordCollector, pretty much since it started, and one day there was an article about the Beach Boys by Nikki. I recognised the name, and thought, hey anyone can write articles for magazines then! (i.e. as opposed to staff only, obv) So I penned one about the Jesus and Mary chain, and they published it about a year later.

An inconsequential anecdote, and my only article yes, but hey.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 27 March 2006 08:17 (twenty years ago)

First heard the Maps aged about 16 - my mate Mark used to receive 3 or 4 7" singles a week by mail order from Rough Trade on a sort of 'send me what's good' deal. Each envelope was like a transmission of culture from where it was happening to where it wasn't. ATV, Subway Sect, Desperate Bicycles - we heard em first via this route, but the one that sticks in the memory most is Read About Seymour. I think Mark started writing to Nikki soon after, and received various bitas and bobs, lyrics, tapes etc. We covered Read About.. in our crappy punk band - played it in front of the whole school at a gig night IIRC. In tribute we even had someone come on and throw a tin tray about at the end. I remember a tape that kept me going thru the first term of univ - A Trip To Marineville on one side and various maps singles, New Cross New Cross, Ambition, and some Wire on the other.
It seems to me that they made music the way that it's made best - fast, rough and fun. This is all very, very sad. Thanks and RIP, Nikki.
And what Marcello said about the drugz - just don't.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 27 March 2006 08:29 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe it, I really can't fucking believe it

Dadaismus sinks his soul in Mother Nature's bower (Dada), Monday, 27 March 2006 10:14 (twenty years ago)

So, so sad. RIP.

yer mam! (yer mam!), Monday, 27 March 2006 10:19 (twenty years ago)

He was a great guy to talk with! He didn't know me from adam and we had the greatest conversation for about an hour once in Philly before a show. Not in any way some underground "legend" that you shouldn't approach like so many other people I could mention. Just a really cool guy.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 March 2006 10:23 (twenty years ago)

Too young, too young, man, I am at a loss for the right words

Dadaismus sinks his soul in Mother Nature's bower (Dada), Monday, 27 March 2006 10:24 (twenty years ago)

"Whatever you are saving for,
At least know what you're waiting for."

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 27 March 2006 11:52 (twenty years ago)

oh no.
RIP.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 27 March 2006 11:57 (twenty years ago)

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Monday, 27 March 2006 12:05 (twenty years ago)

I know people are going on about the Swell Maps here, as theyshould as one of theg great bands who proved anybody could do almost anything they wanted to. But Nikki Sudden issued loads of great music on his own. he abums by Jacobites albums with Dave Kusworth are real favories (who can forget Robespierre's Velvet Basement just to name one). His solo materal really deserves merit too, for its raw, shambolic beauty. Here are a few titles (and I'd love to read discussion on some of thes--Ned, I am sure you've heard more than a few of these).

Other Jacobites stuff:

Jacobites
Lost In A Sea Of Scarves
The Ragged School
Fortune Of Fame (Big Hits And Broken Biscuits)
Howling Good Times (1,000 copies + free 7")
Kiss Of Life (999 copies)
God Save Us Poor Sinners

And yes, they either re-relased many of the same songs or ddid different versions of them, but that was what that pair was about--terminally lazy, great collaborative songs)


Nikki Solo:

Dead Men Tell No Tales
KIss You Kidnapped Charabanc
Crown of Thorns
Treasure Island
Back To The Coast
The Jewel Thief
Seven Lives Later
Egyptian Roads
Red Brocade
Waiting On Egypt
The Bible Belt
The Jewel Thief
From The Warwick Road To The Banks Of The Nil

Ok, I've prattled enough. I am desperately going to miss this man.

Thom Jurek

Thom Jurek (Blue of Noon), Monday, 27 March 2006 12:47 (twenty years ago)

I heard about this last night but I was hoping it was just an internet rumor.

Thanks for all the great music over the years. RIP Nikki.

I shall play Robespierre's Velvet Basement in his honor.

Jeff K (jeff k), Monday, 27 March 2006 12:51 (twenty years ago)

Oh, this is sad news. I was just talking to someone last week about how Nikki's post-Maps stuff is spotty but often really great.

mcd (mcd), Monday, 27 March 2006 13:35 (twenty years ago)

Ouch, this is shocking. Despite sharing a label with him, I think I only met Nikki twice; at a Creation all-dayer at the Forum Kentish Town (then the Town and Country) and when he guest-presented a satellite music show in the early 90s and invited me on as a guest. He always had something of the raffish rock aristocrat about him, a sort of Keith Richards quality. His death, alas, seems to be very much in that tradition too.

Momus (Momus), Monday, 27 March 2006 13:53 (twenty years ago)

Fuck! This is awful. So much good stuff. Fuck!

TRG (TRG), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:00 (twenty years ago)

Thom's post OTM. RIP, Sir Sudden.

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:18 (twenty years ago)

Oh, God, this is awful. Swell Maps were of my favorite bands ever; my wife and I bonded very early over trying to figure out what one of the chords in "Vertical Slum" was...

Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:20 (twenty years ago)

Ned, I am sure you've heard more than a few of these

Regrettably not. What I had heard of his post-Maps stuff often struck me as a reverent approach to Marc Bolan (when frankly an irreverent one works better -- though Devendra seems to have his cake and eat it too). I'm willing to be convinced otherwise but that's a discussion for another day.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:21 (twenty years ago)

Absolutely awful, and let me add my voice to those praising the Jacobites stuff as well. What a shame.

pyjamagrama (teenagequiet), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:29 (twenty years ago)

for those interested, here's what I posted to nyhappenings in response to someone asking if the original post was true:

--- In [email protected], desko2000@... wrote:
>
> woe woe WOE!!! Didn't he play shows in NYC this past week?!?!?!?! Any
> details?

I checked with the original poster to confirm this and it's true. There aren't really any
details as of yet though I'm sure they'll be announced in some manner.

And I guess this is as good a place as any for me to offer a review of saturday night's show
at the Knitting Factory tap bar. The band, Nikki, Danny Hole (the Warlocks) and Alan Merrill
(the Arrows, the man who wrote I Love Rock-n-Roll?) started out a bit shambolic and raw,
and it was quickly pointed out that the bass player hadn't even rehearsed with them.
Considering that, his/their improvisational abilities were pretty impressive and when they
got it together it was quite rousing. They played some old songs, some newer songs and
some covers to a small but dedicated and appreciative crowd, myself included.

Then halfway through a cover of T Rex's Bang a Gong, Evan Dando of the Lemonheads came on stage and tried to get his guitar to work. It didn't. Only at the end did they
get it sorted out, just in time for Bang a Gong to turn into Sister Ray. At this point, I
realized I was watching something very special! The rest of the show went along like that.
Things would fall apart, they'd pick up, they'd rock out, Nikki would sing some heartfelt
tunes, then delve into a classic Swell Maps number, which would somehow morph into Sympathy for the Devil. They also covered The Stone's Dead Flowers.

After the show, I had the chance to briefly meet Nikki thanks to an introduction by Joly.
Following that I stood in the Knitting Factory hallway as the huge line formed for people
who'd come to see the Gossip to get their coats. I laughed as Evan Dando pushed throw
them, mostly unrecognized, and thought what a shame that all these people don't realize
that Nikki Sudden, one of the towering figures of Post-punk, just finished a set. Later at
the Gossip after-party I got to meet their bass player who exclaimed "I can't believe Nikki
Sudden's playing downstairs while we're up here, what a fucked up world this is!" or something to that effect. I'm not sure if he meant Nikki should've had the mainstage, or if
he was simply expressing frustration that he couldn't check the show out because he had
his own concert to play.

Yesterday we can say we lost a true rock-n-roll legend, never quite given his due, but with
influence as wide as can be imagined. At the very least we can be satisfied that in recent
years more and more people became aware of his work, we can thank Secretly Canadian:

http://www.secretlycanadian.com/

for putting his solo records, and the Swell Maps records back in print, and they're all worth
checking out.

RIP, Nikki.

-dan

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:39 (twenty years ago)

sorry about the linebreaks...

Tom Hyland, local show promoter, had this to say:

such terrible news...I was actually working on a Swell Maps reuinon for this Summer, Dot Dash Fest, plus SF, LA, Seattle, Boston, Chicago.

Nikki and Jowe were really into it and plans were being made; they were working on convincing Richard Earle (the other original guitarist) and it was looking like it was gonna happen...

He will be missed...

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:40 (twenty years ago)

So sad - I'm surrounded by people who knew him and his brother well, but only met Nikki when introduced by his then-girlfriend who was DJing a set at my book launch (I haven't heard her broadcast her feelings though, and wish she would).

suzy (suzy), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:56 (twenty years ago)

Billboard news item:

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002236579

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 27 March 2006 15:10 (twenty years ago)

Nikki --
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vOsYtr6EqKY&search=swell%20maps

Swell Maps --
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YweKU8ckalk&search=swell%20maps

TRG (TRG), Monday, 27 March 2006 15:18 (twenty years ago)

bah. easily one of my favorites.
m.

msp (mspa), Monday, 27 March 2006 15:21 (twenty years ago)

this sucks! rip.

Zwan (miccio), Monday, 27 March 2006 15:27 (twenty years ago)

: (

Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Monday, 27 March 2006 15:34 (twenty years ago)

This link points to some mp3s: http://soidisantra.typepad.com/soi_disantra/2006/03/itll_all_end_up.html

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Monday, 27 March 2006 15:47 (twenty years ago)

This is horrible news. My parents-in-law know his parents (his father is their church organist) and as you can imagine to lose both your sons can only be too awful to contemplate.

Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:19 (twenty years ago)

There's a couple of nice pics of him here - looking happy and well.
http://www.woodbinestreet.com/
RIP


Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:24 (twenty years ago)

Even the BBC has published an obit: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4854338.stm

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:29 (twenty years ago)

A picture would have been nice. Otherwise, BBC 1 NME 0

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 30 March 2006 07:11 (twenty years ago)

Music Is Not Dead has his final interview.

StanM (StanM), Thursday, 30 March 2006 08:12 (twenty years ago)

Nice obit in the Independent:

http://news.independent.co.uk/people/obituaries/article354462.ece

Tim Rutherford-Johnson (Rambler), Thursday, 30 March 2006 09:17 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for posting Merrill's words, Dan. Brings it all home a bit more. I cant add a lot of variance to what a lot of other folks have said here, but wanted to note that he seemed to have such a bigger-than-life persona to me, that one was really looking at one of rock's legendary figures in the way he carried himself, no matter what point in his career. Finding a cache of Jacobites records and the Swell Maps double collection in my hometown in Alabama changed things and for that I'm grateful. Such a tragic loss.

c@md3n (c@md3n), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:15 (twenty years ago)

Last night I had the pleasure to hear - via a mutual friend - Nikki's final, upcoming album as well as a recording of his performance on WFMU shortly before he passed. They're both joyous and shambolic and made the loss felt even deeper.

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:58 (twenty years ago)

This morning, I woke up and saw a tribute to Nikki Sudden on the libertines.org forum home page (libertine-org). I couldn't believe my eyes.

I was not a fan until Saturday, March 25, my birthday. Early morning, March 26, a friend and I stopped off at the Knitting Factory before going home. Not knowing who was playing, I asked the bouncers if it was worth going into the club and one of them chimed in enthusiastically, "the set is almost finished but you should check out the band playing on the ___ floor. Great sound." So we went in and sat almost directly in front of Nikki Sudden (hence I feel the need to share this). There was someone on the side of the stage videotaping the set. We heard two songs - I think the last song was Sympathy for The Devil. Midway through the first song I looked over at my friend and said what a great way to end the night - their amazing.
The vibe was definitely punk yet gentle (strange combination, but true). Nikki Sudden was dressed in what I now know was his trademark glam rock suit; I recall seeing rings on his fingers. He hovered over the mike and strummed his guitar like a legend actually...I knew that we were watching someone special.

All around were young punk rockers adding to the vibe, all of them listening appreciatively - in fact it was clear that those guys looked up to Mr. Sudden by the way they were watching him. There were a number of British folks there. One of the guitarist walked off the stage midway through Sympathy for the Devil (I think) and did not return...but Mr. Sudden carried on without a pause. I don't even think that he noticed that the guitarist had left.

I wanted to hear more and was disappointed when the band concluded their set. The audience was definitely appreciative - so much so that Nikki Sudden said something like, we can keep playing if you'd like. But the other band members were already walking toward the back of the stage. Someone said something to him - I cannot remember what - but it was a flattering comment. Mr. Sudden seemed humble and just born to be a musician. All of this I got in two songs time....I cannot believe that he died hours later.

I was quite lucky indeed to hear the last two songs he would ever play. I will be purchasing Groove (I think that's the title) at my next visit to the record store.

May Mr. Sudden rest in peace.

Amy

herecomesthesun (herecomesthesun), Saturday, 1 April 2006 12:48 (twenty years ago)

I was at Nikki's last show too. Very, very sad. I thought it was odd being promoted as his farewell show in the Knitting Factory's ads in the weeklies. As a result, when I heard the bad news on Monday, I immediately thought maybe he knew he was going to die (as if he was terminally ill or something) even though people were saying that it was his last show before he was going back to Europe. As reported, the show did in fact start out pretty shakey but was scorching by the conclusion. Can's "Mother Sky" into "Sympathy for the Devil! is one hell of a way to go out!!! He beamed with happiness throughout the set...Regards to his parents.

Devon e. Levins

Devon e. Levins, Saturday, 1 April 2006 14:53 (twenty years ago)

To Amy - because you didn't see the whole show at Nikki's last gig ever at the Knitting Factory, the guitarist who walked off the stage mid-song ("sympathy for the devil") was Evan Dando. He only played a couple of songs, two or three with Nikki that night mid set, so I'd hardy call him the band's guitarist. It wasn't actually a "band." It was Nikki's friends on stage with him. A trio. Spontaneous and totally unrehearsed.
The bass player with Nikki that night (The Arrows singer Alan Merrill) wrote and sang the first 1975 version of "I love rock n roll" later covered by Joan Jett.
Nikki would instinctively pick the guy who wrote "I love rock n roll" to do his last show with him, rock aesthete that he was.
Alan Merrill wasn't doing the show for the money, obviously, given his songwriting royalties. Danny Hole, the drummer, had played with Nikki before, but it was Merrill's first time on stage with Nikki ever.
I'm lucky to have been at the show and I got a chance to meet Nikki.
A lovely warm friendly man.
Nikki Sudden RIP- Steve B.

Steve Beck, Saturday, 1 April 2006 16:59 (twenty years ago)

Someone who apparently knew him has posted his recording of a December 2005 show via DIME.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 1 April 2006 17:33 (twenty years ago)

Did evan dando give nikki his blast off needle kiss ? Sister Ray indeed .. as in vampire of death.

To bad Nikki didn’t have a chance to see the Max Blagg rant in Emily and Pat;s Nightclubbing Retrosptive at the Downtown Show in NYC …Blagg nailed it with his amazing bingo on junk, junkies, musicians and those who lives the junkies make toxic.

Remember when the dead junkies body lies on a cold slab in the police DOA room .. it is just that a dead naked junkie with a nametag tied to the big toe .. in death the junkie is no one but a dead junkie

What a waste .. you’d had thought after loosing his brother epic to an OD Nikki might have learnt something.

Please people deal with this stupid, unnecessary death not by being romantic ( the nice sweet guy is in reality one cold dead junkie) but by confront the reality of what junk does to a human being. You can start with the words : selfish, manipulative, self-centered, whinner, soulsucker .. and add what ever other words come to mind.

Called narcotics anonymous if you need more information.

tasty

tastytool, Saturday, 1 April 2006 19:55 (twenty years ago)

> confront the reality of what junk does to a human being.

Everybody knows what junk does, unfortunately those addicted are usually unable to do anything about it by the nature of their, erm, addiction.

But thanks for the pious bullshit all the same.

tasting his own tool, Saturday, 1 April 2006 21:42 (twenty years ago)

Thank you for the clarification, Steve B.
It's obvious that my friend and I happened upon the gig that night. I had no idea who was who at that time - so even at the risk of sounding ignorant (which I was) my post reads as I saw things unfold that night. I still can't believe I was sitting right before such a legend without knowing it....a testament to Mr. Sudden's lack of pretense I guess....he seemed so accessible.

I have since checked out Mr. Sudden's journal entries....he was quite a character and seemed to live life quite fully. Among the things that touched me was his love for his parents and the solace he felt when visiting them.

My hearfelt condolences to everyone for this huge loss.

Amy

herecomesthesun (herecomesthesun), Sunday, 2 April 2006 02:03 (twenty years ago)

Amy, I enjoy your messages v. much, because they remind me of how I have always discovered things almost randomly in this life, and sometimes too late. In your case, you are indeed fortunate to have been able to enjoy someone before it was, in fact, too late.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 2 April 2006 02:14 (twenty years ago)

Thank you, Ned. It was random indeed. I feel very fortunate.

Amy

herecomesthesun (herecomesthesun), Sunday, 2 April 2006 02:27 (twenty years ago)

Very saddened to hear of Nikki's death.

Wish people would stop the rumours which are very hurtful to family and friends at this time.

Those of us who knew Nikki well will remember him for being excentric, tenacious, confident, funny, charming, sometimes selfish, terribly vain, but totally lovable and a totally dedicated rock star (move over Keith).

I was fortunate to have managed Nikki and Epic in the 80's for a couple of years. They we classic characters to work I have many happy and fun memories of working together. I kept in touch with Nikki off and on through the years and just heard from him a few weeks ago.

So sorry I can't make it over for the funeral on the 18th but my thoughts and prayers are with Nikki’s family and friends. I will be with you in spirit.

I know you are up there Nikki and just lovely all this attention. May you rest and I look forward to reading your biography. Andy sad it was a good read.

Fiona MacPherson, Melbourne Australia

Fiona MacPherson, Sunday, 2 April 2006 08:24 (twenty years ago)

A serious question:

What does "a totally dedicated rock star" mean?

peepee (peepee), Sunday, 2 April 2006 14:39 (twenty years ago)

RIP.

Oddly enough, I'd never even heard of Swell Maps till this thread.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 2 April 2006 15:33 (twenty years ago)

a friend called me up last monday 2pm, and told me this very sadnews, which i couldn´t believe. a month ago i talked to nikki via phone and he was in a great mood, he told me that he tried to
see the stones on every concert through europe,and next month is the release of his next album, he was busy as ever.
first time i saw him was twenty years ago, since then i saw him every year, he was a part of my life, but he stil live in his music
I feel especially with his parents and my good friend DaveKusworth,nikki died on his birthday.

Pleas stop talking bout drugs, noone knows whats happen at this time, and although Epics death was not drugrelated.
Nikki, god blessyou wherever you may be

J.Breu

J.Breu, Sunday, 2 April 2006 22:16 (twenty years ago)

ouch... I too was at the Knitting Factory. Everybody that was there seems to have posted here. There was a small crowd. I missed half the set as I was downstairs watching a band called Goxxip as I never knew there was more than one stage.

I'd actually met Nikki just the once in 1982 at a london flat. The first time I saw him on stage was his last gig. So I was fairly freaked out by this news. I live in the Uk and just happended to be visiting NYC at the time. I bought a cd from him after the gig and got it signed - possibly his last signed cd? Who knows. It was to a common friend saying "where the hell are you?". I just hope the 15 bucks I gave him wasn't used to buy any substances. But i guess if it was going to happen, it was going to happen...

I spoke to the person that filmed the show. He explained it would be online on his website. I forget the name something like www.punk*****.com. Hopefully it'll be up online sometime soon. I'm not that familiar with Nikki's back catalogue, but i do remember them playing the Stones "dead flowers" and the lyrics "no i won't forget to put roses on your grave" now kind of echoes....

My sympathies go out to his parents/friends.

tf

Ps yes, he had a very young looking chinese girl helping him sell cd's / t-shirts.

He also cracked a joke about gary glitter - something along the lines of "he didn't do anything wrong, just saving a girl from a lifetime in vice trade!" (fairly sick but i found it funny... think i was the only audible voice laughing, but then i have a perverse sense of humour).

tr*ppingflags, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 11:01 (twenty years ago)

Speculation is one thing. Speculating who gave him his "kiss off" is another!

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 11:11 (twenty years ago)

.. as was the rest of that post. You didn't know him. You don't know anything of his personality. Yes, a death like that is not romantic. everything else is projection there!

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 11:14 (twenty years ago)

Hi Mark . i hope your not referring to my post. If you are , i agree i didn't know him. And i don't even know for sure if it was an overdose. Hoping it wasn't... other than that i stand by what i write! no offence to anyone is intended and apologies if anyone is...

tf

tr*ppingflags, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 11:20 (twenty years ago)

Hi. Yes, I was. Speculation about who may have given him the OD is accusing him of Manslaughter/murder, so I hope you aren't 'standing by' that.

The rest is still projection, but we can agree to differ there if you like.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 11:24 (twenty years ago)

hmm.. i didn't realise i had speculated as to whom had given him his OD. Mark, i'm not trying to point any fingers... Nikki wasn't a young kid - i'm sure he knew what he was doing, so i'd not be accusing anyone of murder.. i'd assume he'd have taken it knowing the dangers.

tr*ppingflags, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 12:02 (twenty years ago)

aaand now it's my turn to apologise.

It wasn't your post I was objecting to. It was 'tastytool' above.

I have no issues at all with what you said previously.

(oops. Bigtime)

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 12:06 (twenty years ago)

ah... yes , i've re-read Tastytool's post. I agree with you. I think his post is uneccessary speculation.

no worries re: our misunderstanding.

tr*ppingflags, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 12:19 (twenty years ago)

I spoke to the person that filmed the show. He explained it would be online on his website. I forget the name something like www.punk*****.com. Hopefully it'll be up online sometime soon. I'm not that familiar with Nikki's back catalogue, but i do remember them playing the Stones "dead flowers" and the lyrics "no i won't forget to put roses on your grave" now kind of echoes....

That'll be Joly's http://www.punkcast.com - not posted yet although there is a Nikki Sudden 2004 show.

- stefan (- stefan), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 12:46 (twenty years ago)

Cheers for the link - it looks like a great resource.

tr*ppingflags, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 15:16 (twenty years ago)

Funeral service: next Wednesday. Announcement by his parents on his site:

http://www.nikkisudden.com/news/index.htm

Nikki Sudden Thanksgiving Service

A Thanksgiving Service for the life of Nikki Sudden will be held at 12.30pm on Wednesday 19th April at the Baptist Church, Chandos Street, Leamington Spa, Warwickshire, England.

Everybody is most welcome to attend and it will give us the opportunity to meet and thank you personally for all your love and support during this very difficult time.

There is a good train service from London (Marylebone Station) direct to Leamington Spa.

The Church is about 10 minutes by taxi from the station.

Here are some examples of train times:

Marylebone depart 09.20 arrive Leamington Spa 10.57
----------------- 09.50 --------------------- 11.14
----------------- 10.20 --------------------- 11.54

Nikki came back to the place he was staying in New York after his final concert after the others had gone to bed. He sat at a table reading a book and that is how he was found the next morning. The initial autopsy conducted in New York revealed that he had a slightly enlarged heart. Mercifully, he would have suffered no pain nor known anything about it. We believe he is now with his beloved brother, Epic.

Thank you all so much,

Lois & Trevor Godfrey

StanM (StanM), Saturday, 15 April 2006 18:18 (twenty years ago)

Saw this when I went to see my parents-in-law in Leamington at the w/end. From the local paper...

Parents shocked by musician's sudden death

Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Sunday, 16 April 2006 20:36 (twenty years ago)

"He never had a big hit but he enthused others to carry on and never give up. He was selfless and generous, a great reader, writer and traveller and loving and friendly towards everyone he met. He fitted more into his 49 years than most people do in their entire lives. We are very proud of him."

Says it all really.

Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Sunday, 16 April 2006 20:38 (twenty years ago)

Died of a too-big heart.

mcd (mcd), Monday, 17 April 2006 12:51 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
I first met Nikki sometime in the mid-80s through 'The Hollywood Refugees' - a band from Birmingham. He was something of a hero to everyone but Glenn Tranter and Walker who played for that band, eventually played with him and Dave on Jacobites stuff - he was so unassuming - never took advantage of the adulation he seemed to inspire in some pretty wicked musicians. It was some time later that I met up again with him and Dave backstage at the Phoenix festival in Britain in 1994 ... and I last saw him in 1997 at one of their gigs in Camden Town, I think. I seem to remember him outside the Dublin Castle - but it might have been when they played Islington ... Since then, I had my daughter and just haven't had the time or space to make it to any gigs really. Which is pretty pathetic. He mailed me about a year or so ago when he saw one of my posts on Dave's website and we exchanged a few mails. It was always lovely to hear from him and he was always so interested in what you were up to ... it never failed to amaze me how he could remember everyone he knew (and considering he didn't seem to stop travelling from country to country, that was one helluva lot of people). I only found out about his death yesterday in an article in Uncut magazine and I'm still in shock. I thought he was gonna go one forever. God bless ya, Nikki ... Christine xxx

Christine, Sunday, 21 May 2006 19:09 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

listening to The Ragged School lately

what an album, i am in love

it's like if lou reed and bowie tried to write an album of "wild horses" by the stones

he do the waka lyfe (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 20:34 (fifteen years ago)

this guy has a dense, confusing discography, but it's kind of fun that way -- i'm always discovering different records of his that i end up loving.

tylerw, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 20:48 (fifteen years ago)

2006 was a rough year for cult rockers -- grant mclennan, syd barrett, nikki sudden, arthur lee ...

tylerw, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

ha that's funny tyler i was going to ask you if you liked nikki, seems super up your alley.

what else should i get?

he do the waka lyfe (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

all of the jacobites 80s records are worth getting, actually haven't heard the later stuff. Robespierre's Velvet Basement is probably my fave after the Ragged School. the waiting on egypt/bible belt reish on secretly canadian is great too.

tylerw, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:04 (fifteen years ago)

x-post

I like that description of The Ragged School (and I like that album alot too. haven't listened to it in awhile but I should).

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:56 (fifteen years ago)

yeah that's the only solo one I have and it is a great record

sleeve, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 23:40 (fifteen years ago)

cool news from easy action: Well we are a bit late on getting stock on the long awaited Nikki Sudden book but we will ship out the day they arrive due to be first week of March. Nikkis albums The Jewel Thief & Seven Lives Later have both been expanded and are available as downloads. Playing with Fire is in the shops ( yeah all four of them !)and the Epic Soundtracks Anthology Wild Smile is now due for May. This will be 1 disc of remastered tracks from existing albums and 1 disc of unreleased material compiled by Chris Coleman ( what a nice way to turn seventeen fanzine ) The Nikki Sudden box set "The Boy from nowhere,who fell out of the sky" is now going to be 6 discs . We are NOT including any dvd material as that would delay the release even further .We are hoping for a September release on this one !

tylerw, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 21:19 (fifteen years ago)

nine years pass...

RIP Dave Kusworth

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 13:06 (five years ago)

:(

Evan, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 14:25 (five years ago)

Oh no!

Mule, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 14:33 (five years ago)

oh sad....The Ragged School is a favorite

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 14:35 (five years ago)

Whenever I dip back into Sudden/RS Howard/Soundtracks/Kusworth and hear their louche surrealism, I think post-1980 Dylan would sound great backed by a shambling, clanging band like Jacobites.

Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Thursday, 24 September 2020 13:49 (five years ago)

damn RIP. think I’ll bust out my jacobites CDs tonight.

brimstead, Thursday, 24 September 2020 17:39 (five years ago)


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