a-z of noise music

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i'm kinda stuck at A/E/F/G/H/U/V/

i have J reserved for Japanoise, as that seems an actual term for Japanese noise artists

what would be your a-z? or what artists/labels/etc would you fill in at my missing letters?

― rizzx (Rizz), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:03 (twenty years ago)

AMM

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:10 (twenty years ago)

Eluvium

― Mickey (modestmickey), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:13 (twenty years ago)

Akita, Masami (or AMM)
Endo, Kazumoto
Fear of God (or Farmers Manual)
Haters
Violent Onsen Geisha

― Ghost Bear Junior High Attendance Party (echoinggrove), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:13 (twenty years ago)

http://www.vhfrecords.com/

― Mickey (modestmickey), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:14 (twenty years ago)

Fushusitsa!

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:21 (twenty years ago)

strike that. E = EN! so ashamed.

― Ghost Bear Junior High Attendance Party (echoinggrove), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:23 (twenty years ago)

VHF doesn't seem much of a noise label to me though. What's a legendary noise label?

Fushitsusha i'm hesitant about putting them in cos its more like freerock/jazz/acid/psych no?

xpost - EN?

― rizzx (Rizz), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:25 (twenty years ago)

Einstürzende Neubauten.

and yr 'B' better be Bathtub Shitter or Broken Lightbulb Anal Fetish.

― Ghost Bear Junior High Attendance Party (echoinggrove), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:26 (twenty years ago)

B = Emil Beaulieu

― rizzx (Rizz), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:28 (twenty years ago)

is :zoviet*france: noise?

― rizzx (Rizz), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:31 (twenty years ago)

of a sorts. but then that would be the : to Z of Noise Music, no?

Emil Beaulieu should be your L. or, even better, your R.

― Ghost Bear Junior High Attendance Party (echoinggrove), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:33 (twenty years ago)

and Z is for Z'ev.

― Ghost Bear Junior High Attendance Party (echoinggrove), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:34 (twenty years ago)

i had Z'ev at Z, but i was wondering if ZF would be better

― rizzx (Rizz), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:37 (twenty years ago)

Q! shit, what's Q for?

― rizzx (Rizz), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:39 (twenty years ago)

VHF released classic Skullflower records from their most "noise" period.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:41 (twenty years ago)

now do one in the cyrillic alphabet

― meth lab for doug flutie (sanskrit), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:55 (twenty years ago)

classic noise label? alchemy, bro.

Q! shit, what's Q for?

Quit trying to think of one for Q.

― baby, disco is fuck (yournullfame), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:57 (twenty years ago)

those VHF Skullflowers are classic indeed, but they're hardly from the band's most "noise" period. This Is... is almost acoustic. Carved into Roses isn't especially noisy. and no Jaworzyn in sight.

― Ghost Bear Junior High Attendance Party (echoinggrove), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:58 (twenty years ago)

Q is for Quintron

― R.I.P. West Village Bird Shaman ]-`: (ex machina), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:58 (twenty years ago)

B = Barn Owl

― Lawrence the Looter (Lawrence the Looter), Monday, 27 March 2006 15:08 (twenty years ago)

B = Branca

― prince rupert, Monday, 27 March 2006 15:36 (twenty years ago)

barn owl were really funny the one time i saw them play.

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Monday, 27 March 2006 15:38 (twenty years ago)

G = Gerogerigegege
H = Hanatarash
U = UFO or Die

― o. nate (onate), Monday, 27 March 2006 16:24 (twenty years ago)

all 3 are from Japan which go under Japanoise, but maybe I should drop that cos a lot of seminal noise artists hail from Japan

― rizzx (Rizz), Monday, 27 March 2006 16:38 (twenty years ago)

A - Ashtray Navigations?
F - FILTHY TURD! (or Feast of Ishtar, both the same guy...)
H - Holiday Stabbings (up-and-coming noise boys, Oxford's answer to Double Leopards?)
U - Anyone count Ultrashit Inferno as noise?

― Rombald, Monday, 27 March 2006 17:59 (twenty years ago)

H for Hijokaidan

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 27 March 2006 18:18 (twenty years ago)

P for Prick Decay

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 27 March 2006 18:26 (twenty years ago)

Noise music! COOL!

― Lanky Rob, Monday, 27 March 2006 18:32 (twenty years ago)

v = voice crack

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Monday, 27 March 2006 18:47 (twenty years ago)

Hospitals

― willem -- (willem), Monday, 27 March 2006 18:57 (twenty years ago)

Astro - Aube - Allegory Chapel Ltd.

― Tony Bleach (blackshoeswhitesocks), Monday, 27 March 2006 19:04 (twenty years ago)

C.C.C.C.

― Marty Feldmen Books On Tape (sexyDancer), Monday, 27 March 2006 19:09 (twenty years ago)

yeah but my C is for John Cage

― rizzx (Rizz), Monday, 27 March 2006 19:15 (twenty years ago)

D.D.D.D.

― Marty Feldmen Books On Tape (sexyDancer), Monday, 27 March 2006 19:16 (twenty years ago)

Afrirampo. Or Asa Chang. Though my "noise" shelf may be broader than yours...

― js (honestengine), Monday, 27 March 2006 20:13 (twenty years ago)

A is for AUBE!

― matt riedl, Monday, 27 March 2006 20:45 (twenty years ago)

this thread makes the best episode of sesame street ever

― harshaw (jube), Monday, 27 March 2006 22:02 (twenty years ago)

V/vm

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 27 March 2006 22:06 (twenty years ago)

V is for Velat, Paul. (Lord of the Yum Yum).

― js (honestengine), Monday, 27 March 2006 22:07 (twenty years ago)

(W)hite House

― Tokyo Ghost Stories (Tokyo Ghost Stories), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 01:13 (twenty years ago)

I saw the thread title and i thought we were all supposed to do our own alphabet! oh well...

bruce anderson
bunnybrains
cabaret voltaire
destroy all monsters
einsturzende neubauten
45 grave
gallery of mites
hrvatski
in extremo
john gavanti
konk
last days of may
massacre
ted nugent
o-type
pere ubu
q....(um, I'll get back to you on that one)
rudimentary peni
2nd gen
theoretical girls
urinals
vertical slit
david s. ware
ianis xenakis
zu

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 01:41 (twenty years ago)

(oops, left out young gods!)

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 01:42 (twenty years ago)

that's actually a good idea xhuxk! so go ahead people, your a-z please!

ps you put pere ubu in? why?

― rizzx (Rizz), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 05:23 (twenty years ago)

why not?

― Jack Cole (jackcole), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 05:34 (twenty years ago)

cuz they'z not noiz mayn

― rizzx (Rizz), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 07:30 (twenty years ago)

Huh?? In what way are "Sentimental Journey" off *The Modern Dance* and "Thriller" off *Dub Housing* not noisy??

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 12:28 (twenty years ago)

(These random new-fangled genre definitions make no sense to me, sorry.)

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 12:30 (twenty years ago)

noisy yes, noise no
sorry, try again ;)

― rizzx (Rizz), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:10 (twenty years ago)

still need a Q though

― rizzx (Rizz), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:22 (twenty years ago)

So how do you define "noise", rizzx? You're not making sense.

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:25 (twenty years ago)

And believe me, there are plenty of dime-a-dozen P bands around that toe the silly "noise and nothing else" party line more than Pere Ubu does. But Pere Ubu are about a million times as good, and interesting, and original, and memorable. So they still get my vote.

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:29 (twenty years ago)

my unsubstantial and on the spot definition would be:

"noise is a collection of sounds where the use of melody and rhythm in a popular sense is abandoned and exchanged for sheets of feedback and white noise"

xpost - i understand that, it's largely subjective

― rizzx (Rizz), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:32 (twenty years ago)

Sounds like an incredibly limiting definition to me. (And in what way were those Pere Ubu songs "melody and rhythm in a popular sense"?) (Also, defining "noise" with the word "noise" seems a little iffy.)

(Q could maybe be Quintron and Miss Pussycat, but they've never done anything I've liked. Also I'm not sure how noisy they are. So who else? Stacey Q and Quarterflash and Suzi Quatro and ? and the Mysterians and A.B. Quintanilla III aren't really noisy enough, I'll admit that. Queens of the Stone Age, Man's Ruin era maybe? I already sold all my Quasimoto and Quix*o*tic CDs, and they wouldn't cut it anyway. Guess I'll go with Quio until I think of somebody better.)

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:39 (twenty years ago)

i like how he questioned ubu but not the nuge

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:42 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i was wondering about that, too!

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:46 (twenty years ago)

it's limiting, and i'm not sure if i agree with it completely. im no music theorist or something. i've put in luigi russolo and the dead c as well, so i don't use as strict a definition as stated above

maybe ill just take musique concrete for the Q...or I need some kind of medical condition on the ears, which can be caused by noise, with a Q....or a kid named Quentin who got assraped at a Wolf Eyes gig and made the news...ach!

xpost - i started at pere ubu but as i saw that your definition was obviously much broader i wasn;t gonna bother with nugent, you know...i understand its subjective

― rizzx (Rizz), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:48 (twenty years ago)

i like how he questioned ubu but not the nuge
-- strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (wt...), March 28th, 2006.
yeah, i was wondering about that, too!

-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 28th, 2006.

yeah - and how do you figure konk, chuck? did they have a noisy phase or something?

― pssst - badass revolutionary art! (plsmith), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:45 (twenty years ago)

i always liked paul sutherland (from into the void)'s definition of noise: "it's noise when ya don't wanna hear it."

― cb, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:46 (twenty years ago)

ha ha, konk were the REAL ringer on there! i was wondering whether anybody would notice that. (but i could probably defend them as noisy if somebody held a gun to my head.) maybe i should've picked Kleenex instead.

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:08 (twenty years ago)

awesome haha huh huh huh huh aaaah hahahaha huuuuhhuuuh! now try a serious attempt u *&$^#@%^#*&@# grrr

― rizzx (Rizz), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:51 (twenty years ago)

a limited definition of noise like that is what makes so much noise utterly boring and uninventive. noise has become one of the most moribund sound sets ever.

― Jack Cole (jackcole), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:58 (twenty years ago)

thanks for clearing that up mastermind!

― rizzx (Rizz), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:00 (twenty years ago)

one can have noise without either "sheets of feedback or white noise." see Solid Eye or Tom Recchion, both of which have been highly influential, including Japanese noise.

― Jack Cole (jackcole), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:09 (twenty years ago)

its true, my definition is hardly appropriate and i apologise for posting such a limiting description. i'll try to come up with something more substantial

― rizzx (Rizz), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:15 (twenty years ago)

the wikipedia entry for noise is pretty dreadful.

― Jack Cole (jackcole), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:45 (twenty years ago)

"power noise"

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:49 (twenty years ago)

that's what i was thinking, ian.

off the cuff: i suppose one could start a definition by focusing on the organization of sounds that aren't necessarily traditionally musical, though even that's a bit silly since so much of noise is hidebound in tradition.

― Jack Cole (jackcole), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:52 (twenty years ago)

i tried to write a paper on the history/meaning of noize when i was in school and it was impossible to convey any ideas sensibly.

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:54 (twenty years ago)

Bruce Russell's Free Noise Manifesto is pretty amusing.

― Jack Cole (jackcole), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:57 (twenty years ago)

Russell's Manifesto

― Jack Cole (jackcole), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:58 (twenty years ago)

see Solid Eye or Tom Recchion

and buy some of their fucking records. some of the only LAFMS related shit worth bothering with (along with airway).

― baby, disco is fuck (yournullfame), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 01:23 (twenty years ago)

Solid Eye - 'Voyage to See What's On The Bottom' from last year, maybe their best record yet

― milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 01:35 (twenty years ago)

all LAFMS is worth bothering with, though the Potts Brothers and Recchion are the best.

― Jack Cole (jackcole), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 06:21 (twenty years ago)

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