What is the best examples of the "4AD Sound"

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the cocteau twins records obviously, but what other albums are great examples of this?

jonathan - stl (jonathan - stl), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:07 (twenty years ago)

pale saints - in ribbons

mr. jimmerson, Friday, 31 March 2006 16:18 (twenty years ago)

The first This Mortal Coil album.

Robocock (noodle vague), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:43 (twenty years ago)

Really close-up, macro, blurred shots of things like berries and eyes.

Oh...sound. Sorry.

Justin Shumaker (shueytexas), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:45 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i've been meaning to find some pale saints.

jonathan - stl (jonathan - stl), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:36 (twenty years ago)

HELLO SIGGY!

HELLO ROS!

WE ARE SIGUR ROS!

Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:43 (twenty years ago)

how bout the suck, at least as of recent.

trees (treesessplode), Saturday, 1 April 2006 04:38 (twenty years ago)

Lonely Is An Eyesore

David A. (Davant), Saturday, 1 April 2006 06:12 (twenty years ago)

Ultra Vivid Scene - Joy 1967-90. If the 4AD sound runs from Bauhaus to the Pixies via the Cocteaus, this is somewhere in between.

Treblekicker (treblekicker), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:12 (twenty years ago)

I loved Pale Saints back in the day in fact saw them twice in Los Angeles around 1992, IIRC. Strange that if I'm in the mood for this type of music I tend to play other things so consequently I haven't played them in the longest time (unlike Moose, Slowdive, Boo Radleys ect). Going to have to correct that soon but hope they don't sound dated.

As far as the question is concerned Dead Can Dance, Lush and The Wolfgang Press come to mind.

BeeOK (boo radley), Saturday, 1 April 2006 10:16 (twenty years ago)

i dunno a lot of that ultra vivid scene record is more postal service than the pixies.

keyth (keyth), Saturday, 1 April 2006 14:06 (twenty years ago)

Yeah. Just listen to This mortal coil, which serves as a good sampler for 4AD

Tokyo Ghost Stories (Tokyo Ghost Stories), Monday, 3 April 2006 00:24 (twenty years ago)

Peak tracks? - Yin: tie between "Song To The Siren" (TMC) and "Donimo" from Treasure by The Cocteau Twins. Yang: "Gigantic" by Pixies

Jim Little, Monday, 3 April 2006 03:00 (twenty years ago)

check out bands like Chapterhouse, Miranda Sex Garden, Kitchens of Distinction ... better yet, check out the 4AD website.

And of course check out My Bloody Valentine, but I don't think they were on 4AD, actually. Their "Loveless" record is generally considered to be the archtypical of the shoegaze sound.

cc

chuckchillout (chuckchillout), Thursday, 6 April 2006 18:01 (twenty years ago)

NOT "pump up the volume"

JTS (JTS), Thursday, 6 April 2006 18:17 (twenty years ago)

fifteen years pass...

Because I am a longtime fan of 4AD I dutifully checked out the recent compilation of covers. Because most of the new or current music I pay attention to is either techno and ambient or metal, this was my actually first exposure to a lot of the popular indie rock bands I hear people talking about, like Tune Yards, Future Islands, and Big Thief, and holy christ, people really enjoy these bands?

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 9 April 2021 19:41 (five years ago)

I'm not aware of this album (and, tbf, unfamiliar with a lot of those bands) but iirc cover compilations are not typically the best way to first expose yrself to an artist's work.

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 April 2021 20:01 (five years ago)

(Either the coverer or the coveree's work, I should add.)

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 April 2021 20:01 (five years ago)

why you make This Mortal Coil cry

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Friday, 9 April 2021 20:04 (five years ago)

some of you may enjoy this mix of mine:

https://soundcloud.com/araho/colins-very-4ad-mix

"A little adventure inspired by This Mortal Coil's Filigree & Shadow."

Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Friday, 9 April 2021 20:20 (five years ago)

This Mortal Coil is a good example of what I'm talking about, actually! Those albums are great but not a very good metric for sussing out what either the original songs or the artists covering the songs sound like outside of a TMC album.

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 April 2021 20:27 (five years ago)

iirc cover compilations are not typically the best way to first expose yrself to an artist's work.

For realz.

Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Friday, 9 April 2021 20:28 (five years ago)

And that can be both a good and a bad thing (recalls first hearing Hootie & the Blowfish via their pretty good contribution to that Led Zep comp, subsequently recalls chagrin of buying and hearing Cracked Rear View for the first time)

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 April 2021 20:33 (five years ago)

It’s also useful to realise that the “4AD sound” ceased to exist when Ivo left the label in the mid-90s

assert (MatthewK), Friday, 9 April 2021 21:04 (five years ago)

Just listened to the "Junkyard" and "Song to the Siren" covers. The former was kind of ok, the latter I lasted about a minute.

They missed a trick not having a Rema Rema cover.

stirmonster, Friday, 9 April 2021 21:16 (five years ago)

Breeders doing His Name is Alive is pretty good.

Cow_Art, Friday, 9 April 2021 21:35 (five years ago)

the new or current music I pay attention to is either techno and ambient or metal

Love when people who listen to the most insular shit imaginable have opinions.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 9 April 2021 21:45 (five years ago)

if a person who used to like music hears Big Thief and goes "ugh, kids these days," then that dude has crossed over into "I like the music I liked when I was young" territory imo. Big Thief is fuckin astonishing

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 9 April 2021 23:56 (five years ago)

vocals were a dealbreaker for me and kept me from hearing anything that might have been astonishing underneath

and for what it's worth I like plenty of new music

just not this

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 10 April 2021 00:37 (five years ago)

vocals were a dealbreaker for me and kept me from hearing anything that might have been astonishing underneath

Had the exact same response. I thought it might be a one-off put-on, but then I tried one of their albums and every song sounded like that!

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 10 April 2021 00:38 (five years ago)

"Breeders doing His Name Is Alive is pretty good" - seconded!
My favorite example of "4AD covering 4AD" however would be HNIA covering Unrest's "Imperial" (since that Unrest album was released in the U.K. by the 4AD imprint Guernica):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM2d68ePINo

ernestp, Saturday, 10 April 2021 01:23 (five years ago)

xp Not every band can have “cookie monster” vocals, you guys! :-D

Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Saturday, 10 April 2021 01:29 (five years ago)

xp Not every band can have “cookie monster” vocals, you guys! :-D

The singer for Big Thief does sound like a Muppet, though...

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 10 April 2021 02:00 (five years ago)

I like almost every artist in this compilation and the choice of songs to cover but the final product is a bit disappointing. This is not a good introduction to any act here obviously. We could recommend original songs by those artists to listen to instead but something tells me it wouldn’t change minds in here.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 10 April 2021 03:08 (five years ago)

That said: Tkay Maidza, Atlas Sound, US Girls, Aldous Harding, Helado Negro, Jenny Hval, Big Thief are all great and I wont hear otherwise.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 10 April 2021 03:13 (five years ago)

I've become quite smitten with Dry Cleaning.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 10 April 2021 03:27 (five years ago)

Oh yeah they are good too. Actually all of them. Even Tune-yards.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 10 April 2021 03:43 (five years ago)

Surprised Dry Cleaning haven't warranted their own thread.

djh, Saturday, 17 April 2021 22:33 (five years ago)

I think they’re discussed a good bit here: best out of the current-ish crop of post-punk bands people and algorithms keep telling you to listen to

Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Saturday, 17 April 2021 22:50 (five years ago)

dif juz seem like the ultimate 4AD band to me, though they're certainly not the best

eisimpleir (crüt), Saturday, 17 April 2021 23:33 (five years ago)


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