Pete Doherty voted one of the greatest rock stars of all time by readers of NME.

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But was dismissed as a "just a worn-out drug addict" by NME.

Theres also a poll on the BBC site Here For

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 11 May 2006 11:59 (twenty years ago)

he magazine, which only two years ago named Doherty as its "cool icon", expressed surprise at his inclusion.
It said: "Surely he's just a worn-out drug addict who needs help if he's ever going to make decent music again?"

"Yes, there was a time when Pete Doherty lived his life with an unrivalled romantic zest, when he represented a truly anti-establishment voice," it said in the latest issue.
"But is he really still your hero? Now that his second home seems to be the courtroom?"

In 2004, when the magazine named Doherty as their "cool icon", it said his talent as a musician, not his heroin addiction which made him "the coolest".

NME'S ROCK HEROES
1. Kurt Cobain
2. Pete Doherty
3. Morrissey
4. Liam Gallagher
5. Carl Barat
6. Thom Yorke
7. Noel Gallagher
8. David Bowie
9. Ian Brown
10. Ian Curtis

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:02 (twenty years ago)

So, who's your hero? Pick One Only!

plenty talk about it, here.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:04 (twenty years ago)

Ahh ok. Didn't see that.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:05 (twenty years ago)

That only two thousand people voted is pretty damning, isn't it?

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:08 (twenty years ago)

What is NME's circulation these days? Maybe they're dumping Doherty as the circulation is going down as people get fed up with their blanket coverage of him leaving only diehard doherty fans buying nme?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:10 (twenty years ago)

This entire board has been locked by a cunt.

― Doktor Faustus (noodle vague), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:12 (twenty years ago)

The NME probably change their coverage of bands every october with the influx of freshers.

Bands that have been around for 3 years get dumped unceremoniously as those bands fans graduate and don't buy NME/Shite indie anymore.

― Brian M, Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:14 (twenty years ago)

NME "We're looking for a top-class news reporter"
http://www.nme.com/news/nme/23036

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:20 (twenty years ago)

Hmm, the BBC voter's version..
VOTE RESULTS
Is Pete Doherty...?
A rock hero
3.04%
A 'worn-out addict'
96.96%
14461 Votes Cast
Results are indicative and may not reflect public opinion

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:22 (twenty years ago)

WHY THE FUCK DOES ANYBODY ON ILM GIVE THE SLIGHTEST FUCKING SHIT ABOUT ANY OF THIS FOR FUCKING CHRIST'S SAKE?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:23 (twenty years ago)

Because Melody Maker and Sounds magazine no longer exist and the NME b-shit weekly view of music is published with no opposition.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:27 (twenty years ago)

EVEN NOW THE NME's BLACK-SHIRTED HORDES STOMP ACROSS THE LAND MAKING INNOCENT CIVILIANS LISTEN TO SHABBYMUMBLES

― Doktor Faustus (noodle vague), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:42 (twenty years ago)

"Surely he's just a worn-out drug addict who needs help if he's ever going to make decent music ~~again~~?"

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:46 (twenty years ago)

The successful candidate will have an eye for news both online and offline and an endless stream of fresh ideas. You'll be unfazed at the prospect of interviewing the likes of Liam Gallagher and Alex Turner, but will also have the stamina to stand outside a police station all night, waiting for Pete Doherty to be let out.

Who is Alex Turner?

I might apply. Nothing to lose, is there?

I can identify Paul McCartney's daughter Heather in the Say Say Say video.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:47 (twenty years ago)

"Surely he's jus~~t a worn-out drug addict w~~h~~o needs help~~ i~~f he's ever going~~ t~~o mak~~e~~decent music again?~~"

― Doktor Faustus (noodle vague), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:50 (twenty years ago)

IIRC Alex Turner is one of the arctic monkeys. Or perhaps it should have said nik turner, we can all live in hope, I dunno.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:52 (twenty years ago)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/01/11/24_moveon.jpg

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:59 (twenty years ago)

You know Ive followed music pretty closely for a pretty long time and I honestly can't say I've heard any of Pete Doherty's music or know even which band he is or was in.

― Period period period (Period period period), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:01 (twenty years ago)

You and Stephen Merritt should hang out.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:01 (twenty years ago)

Nah, Doggerelty's white.

― Doktor Faustus (noodle vague), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:02 (twenty years ago)

I waqtched a rockumentary about him, which you can now get on DVD by the way incidentally.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:07 (twenty years ago)

He'll play round your house for less than the price of a DVD.

― Doktor Faustus (noodle vague), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:11 (twenty years ago)

(hilariously cross out "a DVD" and replace with name of drug)

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:12 (twenty years ago)

~~DVD~~annadin.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:15 (twenty years ago)

Alcohol is a drug too!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:16 (twenty years ago)

T/S: Mark E. Smith vs Giles St. John "Pete" Doggerelty.

― Doktor Faustus (noodle vague), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:18 (twenty years ago)

"it's not a drug it's a drink."

― pisces (piscesx), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:27 (twenty years ago)

ha, my friend anna-marie forwarded this link to some of us this morning, and my reaction was also "who the fuck is alex turner?"

i'm so, so proud of the fact that i've still not heard an arctic monkeys song. worst band ever, seriously.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:30 (twenty years ago)

i'm so, so proud of the fact that i've still not heard an arctic monkeys song. worst band ever, seriously.

Im not defending them in any way, but if you've never heard them how can you say they're the worst band ever?
(and did you have comic book guy voice in your heard when you wrote that?)

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:40 (twenty years ago)

If you haven't heard them, how do you know?
xpost

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:41 (twenty years ago)

You don't need to catch Ebola to know it sucks.

― Doktor Faustus (noodle vague), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:44 (twenty years ago)

ha ha ha.

I note the lack of outraged doherty fans googling in on ilm, generally. Also arctic monkeys, there were a few, but not that many, considering.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:47 (twenty years ago)

The Lex

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:51 (twenty years ago)

You don't need to catch Ebola to know it sucks.

ahah. good one !
also, this list is so... I don't even know how to express... since there are 4 members of 'em in the top 10, I suppose the libertines and oasis are the 2 best rock bands of all time since the big bang ?

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 11 May 2006 14:36 (twenty years ago)

ILM Heroes

1 Christgau
2 Reynolds
3 Dr Dre
4 Donald Fagen
5 Thomas Bangalter
6 Jarvis
7 Thom Yorke
8 MIA
9 Prince
10 blummin' Stewart Murdoch
11 Missy
12 Momus
13 Mark E Smith
14 Ozzie B
15 Eno
16 Belvedere Kane
17 Rick Wakeman
18 Kate Bush
19 Quincy Jones
20 Ralf Hutter

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 11 May 2006 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Switch the two hacks at the top for ODB and Pete Waterman and I'm with ya.

― Doktor Faustus (noodle vague), Thursday, 11 May 2006 14:57 (twenty years ago)

Jarvis on both lists shockah.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:11 (twenty years ago)

Im not defending them in any way, but if you've never heard them how can you say they're the worst band ever?
(and did you have comic book guy voice in your heard when you wrote that?)

Coincidentally, I read your first sentence in a Lisa Simpson voice

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:12 (twenty years ago)

ILM loved that beat dre made for christgau

― Period period period (Period period period), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:20 (twenty years ago)

When it comes to living up to the rock'n'roll myth, he is better than most, I guess.

Not that he is important in any way though, even though his two albums with The Libertines were decent enough.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 11 May 2006 21:01 (twenty years ago)

Geir, Dre's albums with the Libertines were shit.

Get with it.

― Doktor Faustus (noodle vague), Thursday, 11 May 2006 21:03 (twenty years ago)

Forget about Dre?

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 12 May 2006 06:07 (twenty years ago)

I have decided not to apply for that job after all.

Konal, you forgot PAUL MORLEY, surely number one?

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 12 May 2006 07:20 (twenty years ago)

I note the lack of outraged doherty fans googling in on ilm, generally. Also arctic monkeys, there were a few, but not that many, considering.

Esp. since the Libertines were supposedly the band that pioneered usage of message boards etc.

I wish some would show up.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Friday, 12 May 2006 09:00 (twenty years ago)

and how could i forget Kevin Shields?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 12 May 2006 09:24 (twenty years ago)

try hitting yourself on the head w/ a mallet?

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 12 May 2006 09:26 (twenty years ago)

the pain aspect puts me off.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 12 May 2006 09:40 (twenty years ago)

unless...

http://www.worldofkitsch.com/celebrity/images/mallett_timmy001.jpg

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 12 May 2006 09:42 (twenty years ago)

The true ILM hero.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 12 May 2006 09:47 (twenty years ago)

maybe da libs fans have there own message boards? perhaps thye like y know talking about da libs with other fans of da libs rather than y know googling for every mention of da libs. also they are all on livejournal innit. u english pop types should know.

― acrobat (elwisty), Friday, 12 May 2006 10:00 (twenty years ago)

"english pop type"? How dare you, etc.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 12 May 2006 10:17 (twenty years ago)

english pop types are all about the livejournal!

― acrobat (elwisty), Friday, 12 May 2006 10:28 (twenty years ago)

poll type more like

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 12 May 2006 10:32 (twenty years ago)

omg jus realized that this HERO poll is the SAME as the uk pop types NOW polls... sort of!

ONE and the SAME!

― acrobat (elwisty), Friday, 12 May 2006 10:36 (twenty years ago)

except the NOW polls have much better winners

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 12 May 2006 10:44 (twenty years ago)

uk pop types polls are more AUTHENTIC?

― acrobat (elwisty), Friday, 12 May 2006 10:46 (twenty years ago)

just a lot more fun

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 12 May 2006 10:51 (twenty years ago)

yeh for you grandad!

― nme reader (elwisty), Friday, 12 May 2006 11:02 (twenty years ago)

but it's the NME readership's taste that seems to be the most grandaddy, no?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 12 May 2006 11:21 (twenty years ago)

grandad is the new yoof! recject dance! rebel againt 1998!

― acrobat (elwisty), Friday, 12 May 2006 11:23 (twenty years ago)

except thats bollocks cos PENDULUM are the cross over student success of 2006. possibly.

― acrobat (elwisty), Friday, 12 May 2006 11:33 (twenty years ago)

Down In Albion is already going for a fiver in Monsieur Le Fopp's Shaftesbury Avenue emporium.

I don't know if this is relevant.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:36 (twenty years ago)

i downloaded one track from it for 99p.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:39 (twenty years ago)

Enabler.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:40 (twenty years ago)

Was it good, Konal?

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:01 (twenty years ago)

it was alright. an instrumental version would probably have been better though. then it could totally have passed for Mancunian punkfunk circa '82.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:10 (twenty years ago)

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